Good/Best(softest) spings..lowered. Im tired of my TRD's.

[Lafiro]

:help: I've had the TRD springs for about a year now installed, and I must say im sick and tired of the bumps I feel, but thats also true cause I live in NYC, the place with the most/worst bumps everywhere.

I still would like to keep the car lowered, so being that, what can I get that can give me that lowered look but with a much softer ride? I dont want to hear "you can save by going with..."

I dont care if its going to cost $500 instead of the $200 those other springs cost. I just want a good ride, maybe even a recommendation on shocks or even struts?

Im going crazy, two nights ago ran over something and destroyed two of my tires. So now, not only do I need new tires, but I might as well get new rims. So while I'm at it, I need a softer suspension. BTW, I like the fact Volvo/Mercedes have buttons which you can change the feel of the road instantly from being very stiff to the point where you cant even feel bumps in the road, I wish i could do something like that to the car......:help:

[eTiMaGo]

Well for softest springs, I think the softest available are the Tanabe NF's?

As for adjustable stiffness suspension, you can get it with some TEIN coilovers, such as I have, with their EDFC system. But, even at the softest setting, they're still pretty damn firm :laugh:

[Lafiro]

That sounds good so far, but wow, still firm on softest setting?

[HTM Yaris]

Hate to tell you this , but TRD is the softest

I use the TRD shocks and Tein springs and even the girlies say that is a remarkably good ride .

Did you cut the bumpstops on your current set up ? If you did , buy new ones and put them back on .

[Lafiro]

Hate to tell you this , but TRD is the softest

I use the TRD shocks and Tein springs and even the girlies say that is a remarkably good ride .

Did you cut the bumpstops on your current set up ? If you did , buy new ones and put them back on .

Really, I thought TRD was suppose to be a sport spring, since its much harder to bounce, but your right, I have been told its a soft ride because it doesnt bounce a lot, but the probably is, hit any kind of bump or uneven road, and EVERYTHING transfers into the chassis and it makes everything rattle and feel like crap......

As for the bump stops, no, never cut them. (oh oh, I feel a lot of people are going to yell at me!!!!!)

[cali yaris]

Tanabe NF210 (which I have in stock, hint hint):

Spring rate F/R: 2.5/2.2
Drop F/R: 1.1"/1.3"

Anyone know the specs on the TRD's?

[reznunt]

softest ride from springs that will lower your car are oem springs with cut coils (if ultimate softness at any expense is what you are after).

[eTiMaGo]

softest ride from springs that will lower your car are oem springs with cut coils (if ultimate softness at any expense is what you are after).

LOL yeah that's absolutely true, but get ready to have those bump stops come into use very often :biggrin:

[reznunt]

LOL yeah that's absolutely true, but get ready to have those bump stops come into use very often :biggrin:

ya man this move is done by 16 year-olds with no $. they opt for the custom $40 race suspension! :bellyroll:

[Lafiro]

Hahaha.... thats funny, but I need a suspension that will suit all my needs. I'm still doing my research and hope that by Tuesday i have my answer. Once I do, I'm going for it, my car should be back from the body shop Wed night, and then I will order new rims and tires. I guess I should just get myself the fog lights now and try converting those to HID's as well? lol

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

As for the bump stops, no, never cut them. (oh oh, I feel a lot of people are going to yell at me!!!!!) maybe if you cut the bumpstops you'd have a better ride.....

[blueskana]

What kind of struts do you have? Spring rate isn't neccesarily why your ride is jarring.

[Lafiro]

What kind of struts do you have? Spring rate isn't neccesarily why your ride is jarring.

Stock.....

Hmm maybe someone can help, the person who use to help me I stopped talking too because he was only interested in quick fixes and money.

[reznunt]

maybe if you cut the bumpstops you'd have a better ride.....

if you are cutting coils, this is a given.

[jdium]

Best ride comes from driving better...lol, sorry, no good info here, stock level for me...

[Lafiro]

Yes, I drive normally. Sometimes I like to have fun on curves and turns and stuff, but regular driving always by the speed limit and the bumps are still harsh. So I need to cut the bumo stops but either way ill probably get a new suspension.

And now I need a new bumper. Stupid girl slammed into the back of my car last night.

[HTM Yaris]

Let me clarify . If you cut the bump stops , the ride will be harsher

[AlphaFox]

since you have the TRD springs with the stock shocks, perhaps you need the TRD shocks. not sure if this would help your ride though. perhaps the stock struts are going bad?

[PetersRedYaris]

Don't go with NF210's if you want soft. The ride is tolerable but I'm debating taking mine off and going back to the stock springs for the same reason. Yes, I know I have 17's with low profile tires, but I installed the springs 10,000 miles before the tires/wheels and have to say the springs made the biggest contribution to the stiff ride.
In addition, my NF210's dropped me over 1.5 inches and I scrape if I don't perfectly pull into my driveway (very frustrating). Has anyone else measured their long term settling with NF210's? Too much drop for me and too stiff.
Sorry I don't have a remedy for you, but I'll be interested in what you find.

Edit: Just read a post by C2AUTOSPL; the NF's are stiffer than the DF's in the rear. Is this a misprint?

[slvryaris]

I have the NF's and they feel just fine. Over the years lowering trucks and such I have found that nothing is going to be as good as the stock springs if your looking for ride comfort. If you want it lowered you will have to give up some feeling and yes it will be a little tighter, but if you had it lowered with the same give as stock springs your tire would be eatin the fender well. You have to find a happy medium.

[Lafiro]

Even with stock tires, the ride is still very stiff and bumps are harsh.

So I dont know anymore. Do the bump stops have to be cut so the shock isnt under so much extra pressure/have so little room to move; or does it have to stay the same?

Im actually looking very closely at TEIN's suspension system in which EDFC is used to control soft/stiff shock settings, and this is in conjunction with different coilovers. I dont know what I will do, but I just want it to feel right for every occation and this seems very good right now compared to just changing to different springs.

So tomorrow i leave my car off so my door/quarter panel can be fixed from a old lady side swiping my car.... and now I have to most likely leave the car longer cause last night some drunk bit&^ hit my rear and sent me flying into the car infront of me, so now I need a new rear bumper and a new front grill. grrrrrrrr.... and to think just 4 days ago my front tire got a huge nail in it and a chunk of rubber was taken off, and my rear exploded so now Im stuck fixing both tires(well I have to buy all 4 new now)


Wow my bad luck this week with my car :(

[slvryaris]

I cut the bump stops on mine. You will find mixed emotions about cutting them, but after I thought about it I cut mine before I installed. It gives extra travel as to were not cutting it I figured it would bottom out more (or hit the bump stop more) I would have my shocks checked because it sounds like your ride is stiffer then it should be. It might be something else, and I was curious if it has always rode like this?

[Lafiro]

Hmmmm, well its a very smooth ride and I like how it handles when I turn and stuff, but when a bump is a bit much, it really just hits, not something I like at all.

When its just an up and down, it stays solid, and it doesnt bounce back and forth like most cars do after a hill.

I dont know, but like I said, I live in a place where all the roads are like this unless I travel out far(where most of my friends are anyway). So this is the reason as to why I need it to be soft, but I wouldnt mind it stiff at times too to have fun. This is why Im looking into TEIN's EDFC before I go ahead and do NF's or something.

[YarisTom73]

I'm quite sure that the problem lies in changing the springs but using stock struts. Generally, springs and struts want to be done together, particularly TRD stuff where they are "matched" by Toyota. I encourage anyone with better info to correct me on this :iono:
I'm anxious to find out, before I make the same mod :rolleyes:

[nqd]

does the edfc work with basics?

[cali yaris]

I'm quite sure that the problem lies in changing the springs but using stock struts.

I changed my springs first and they worked just fine with the stock struts/shocks. I wanted a little more stiffness (I do take my car to the track), so I changed to TRD struts/shocks.

[Astroman]

Are you looking to sell the TRD springs?

[ChinoCharles]

Nobody mentioned spring clamps.

[Lafiro]

If I get another suspension, sure I will sell them, why not, I already got the originals laying around in a box, I dont think I will need the sportivo's doing the same.....

[churp]

Has anyone actually cut the coils to test it out? Maybe you should try it before buying another set of springs....all you'd be spending is labor.

[eTiMaGo]

does the edfc work with basics?

Nope only the Super Compacts or the Super Streets...

[Lafiro]

Why can't I find the "Super Compact" on their website?

[nick1983]

:help: I've had the TRD springs for about a year now installed, and I must say im sick and tired of the bumps I feel, but thats also true cause I live in NYC, the place with the most/worst bumps everywhere.

I still would like to keep the car lowered, so being that, what can I get that can give me that lowered look but with a much softer ride? I dont want to hear "you can save by going with..."

I dont care if its going to cost $500 instead of the $200 those other springs cost. I just want a good ride, maybe even a recommendation on shocks or even struts?

Im going crazy, two nights ago ran over something and destroyed two of my tires. So now, not only do I need new tires, but I might as well get new rims. So while I'm at it, I need a softer suspension. BTW, I like the fact Volvo/Mercedes have buttons which you can change the feel of the road instantly from being very stiff to the point where you cant even feel bumps in the road, I wish i could do something like that to the car......:help:

What are you going to do with your TRD's? If you are selling I may be interested :thumbsup:

[Astroman]

I already called dibbs :biggrin:

[Lafiro]

Ha, and how about the others that PM'ed me before hand? Im not kidding ,,,

but I need answers first else I cant do anything at all.

I just got my car back from the shop and it looks awesome like the day I got it, not a scratch.... but I must say, TEIN might not want my business as 3 days now and no answer to my email. grr,,,

[eTiMaGo]

Why can't I find the "Super Compact" on their website?

AFAIK TEIN only sells the Basic Compacts in the US, you'd have to get the Super Compacts from Japan.

[Lafiro]

I wonder why it is that they do that? Why do they only sell specific parts to specific countries?

[blueskana]

So normal driving is fine, you like the spring rate, etc. But when you hit a (common occurance) harsh bump, the shock zips through its travel, bottoms out on your shortened bump-stop, and slams the hell out of car, right?
I don't know who/if anyone is making duel or even single adjustable sport shocks/struts (KONI, Tokico???) but maybe a stiffer valved (like the TRD) shock to keep the soft stock valves from just flying through thier travel, plus a set of stiffer MCU bumpstops could reduce the bone-jarring shock of running out of travel. This weekend I went out to hill country and got the car airborne, coming down hard enough to cause the windshield wiper lever to drop down to high-speed (BANG! "WTF??? Why are my wiper blades on???" LOL!). Here's a link to some reportedly stiffer MCU bump-stops. Anybody from the SF area ever heard of/can vouch for these guys?

http://www.fatcatmotorsports.com/FCMstops_Yaris.htm

Either way, good luck bro.

[Lafiro]

Hahahaha 2 weeks ago that happened to me too!!!!

[Lafiro]

I never cut my bump stops though, so they are not shortened. But I'm assuming that since the original shocks were not meant for a 1-2inch drop, this is why they are acting the way they are, cause now they lost those 2 inches of extra movement?

[Lafiro]

Ok, SO I just got my email from Tein basically stating that they have no Coilovers for the Yaris that are EDFC compatible. Ok, they didnt answer my question the way I asked so now Im stuck. I know its easy to cuy above the shock in the back of the liftback, but how about the sadan?

[Jerkratt]

i have a set of the fat cat bump stops... ill sell um to u for like 50 bucks + shipping cost.... i dont want them... dont have the money to get them installed and i dont have a yaris atm. there still in the ziplock bag i got them in... lol

[birdman]

When I installed the TRD springs and sway bar it made the car handle much better but it was too stiff and bumpy for my taste so I ended up with my stock springs. It doesn't look as cool or handle as well but it rides much softer. The TRD sway bar alone is enough for me. I still drive the piss out of it. Great little car.

[MUSKOKA800]

Try some 'touring' type tires for a cushier ride.
Move away from Hi-Performance tires have stiff sidewalls which transfer more road texture to your butt.

Otherwise, go back to stock springs and that off-road looking set-up. Yuck!

[Billiam]

Holy old thread Batman!! :eek:

[YarisSedan]

What type of rim/wheel combo do you have. That will make as big of a impact as springs and shocks. Very little sidewall is going to give you a very bumpy ride and make you feel every little crack and crevice in the road. Also tire pressure is another major factor as well. When i have my tire pressure set at 35 vs 40 my ride is so so much better but cornering handling is sacrificed.

[Bluevitz-rs]

Sorry, I haven't read through all the posts, but has anyone suggested you getting air bags to replace your springs?