2 things...

[jdium]

1. there are a lot more locked threads lately...

2. my outside smileys are disappearing...don't hate...

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[staticorex]

1. There are a lot more mods now and the site is growing. So we needs to clear the riff-raff. :)

2. IDK.

[ChinoCharles]

We're learning that it is better to lock threads early rather then let them get totally out of hand before doing so. Remember one thing... this is a YARIS forum, and if what you're posting about has nothing to do with the car plus its getting people riled up, it'll probably be closed. The goal isn't to flex our cyber-muscles or censor people, just to maintain a positive atmosphere and facilitate good discussion about this car.

[Meteorite Man]

Maybe we need a Cyber-Muscle Gym Forum. 7342 That way the ones who want to beat each other's intellectual brains out can without gummin' up the thread. I see plenty of space. There are some forums that haven't been touched in quite a long time. The news article space seems to be pretty cob-webbed up.

How about one for those unfortunate incidents that seem to be occuring whether it be the owner's fault or not. Dents, Dings and Dumb Moves.

Change is good, too much make my pants fall down.

[staticorex]

^ Ha. :)

[kimona]

1. there are a lot more locked threads lately...

2. my outside smileys are disappearing...don't hate...

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As to your first point, I've only found 2 threads locked recently, both of which I urged the moderators to close.

We are fortunate to have such an informative and enjoyable forum for virtually thousands of Yaris/Vitz owners and enthusiasts worldwide.

We don't need drug stories, questions about where to buy drugs, and funny driving under the influence stories on yarisworld.

It takes just a few immature and irresponsible individuals posting inappropriate threads (in off-topic discussions) to destroy yarisworld's fine reputation and shut down the entire forum.

Although one may argue "freedom of speech", responsible persons must distinguish between what is appropriate and what is not on any particular forum. Certainly, there are other forums where individuals can freely express themselves relative to the use of illegal drugs.

We all have a responsibilty to strive to maintain the integrity of yarisworld, and the vast majority of members will do just that.

[brickhardmeat]

well, in that case the off-topic EVERYTHING else discussions should just plain be removed from the site

[kimona]

well, in that case the off-topic EVERYTHING else discussions should just plain be removed from the site

That sound like a rather radical move at this point.

Don't you think the majority of yarisworld members are responsible enough to raise appropriate discussions in the off-topic section of our forum? There are hundreds of fun and appropriate threads that so many of us have enjoyed joining.

I don't think there's any point in closing down the entire section just because of a few idiots. All we need are pro-active members and moderators to help filter out a few inappropriate threads.

No sense in cutting off an arm simply because of a hangnail!

[brickhardmeat]

That sound like a rather radical move at this point.

Don't you think the majority of yarisworld members are responsible enough to raise appropriate discussions in the off-topic section of our forum? There are hundreds of fun and appropriate threads that so many of us have enjoyed joining.

I don't think there's any point in closing down the entire section just because of a few idiots. All we need are pro-active members and moderators to help filter out a few innappropriate threads.

No sense in cutting off an arm simply because of a hangnail!


ok, you asked for it, look I like you personally, what little I know of you from your posts on the site, you are an intelligent individual and I respect that

what is appropriate is where I may disagree with you, basic forum rules are stated and just because someone posts about something you don't condone doesn't merit removal in my opinion

-when I said shut it down I was being sarcastic-

this is a car forum and that is why most of us are but obviously we occasionally "shoot the shit" about other stuff, we are not clones and we are not droids

I think that many threads should remain open while others such as the thread about driving under the influence was rightfully locked

that being said I am not a mod and it isn't up to me what stays and what goes

[churp]

It is getting a little boring though!!!!! I'm an old crotchety bastard but freedom of speech is good.

[brickhardmeat]

It is getting a little boring though!!!!! I'm an old crotchety bastard but freedom of speech is good.

yep

[kimona]

ok, you asked for it, look I like you personally, what little I know of you from your posts on the site, you are an intelligent individual and I respect that

what is appropriate is where I may disagree with you, basic forum rules are stated and just because someone posts about something you don't condone doesn't merit removal in my opinion

-when I said shut it down I was being sarcastic-

this is a car forum and that is why most of us are but obviously we occasionally "shoot the shit" about other stuff, we are not clones and we are not droids

I think that many threads should remain open while others such as the thread about driving under the influence was rightfully locked


that being said I am not a mod and it isn't up to me what stays and what goes

Hey brickhardmeat,

Occasionally being able to "shoot the shit" on this forum is what makes yarisworld especially appealing and enjoyable to many of us.

I urged the locking of a certain drug post not because it was discussing an activity I necessarily frown upon... hell, I'm one of the original hippies... but because yarisworld is an inapproriate venue for that kind of discussion... particularly when members ask where specific drugs can be purchased. The second post I wished to have locked (funny stories about driving under the influence) was clearly reprehensible and quite simply the ranting of an immature and irresponsible idiot!

I am all for free speech, but with this great freedom we enjoy comes personal responsibilty, self-control, and a little common sense to thoughtfully choose appropriate venues to express our views and opinions. Unfortunately, we find more and more that common sense isn't too damn common, and that self-control and personal responsibility are quickly becoming virtues foreign to this country.

As members of yarisworld, we all share a responsiblity in keeping our forum relatively safe and free from (legal) retribution, and in promoting and maintaining its generally positive character... within reason, of course.

We also each have the right to bring what we believe are inapropriate posts to the attention of our moderators, and then to allow them to do what they believe is in the best interest of the members and the forum.

[brickhardmeat]

Hey brickhardmeat,

Occasionally being able to "shoot the shit" on this forum is what makes yarisworld especially appealing and enjoyable to many of us.

I urged the locking of a certain drug post not because it was discussing an activity I necessarily frown upon... hell, I'm one of the original hippies... but because yarisworld is an innapproriate venue for that kind of discussion... particularly when members ask where specific drugs can be purchased. The second post I wished to have locked (funny stories about driving under the influence) was clearly reprehensible and quite simply the ranting of an immature and irresponsible idiot!

I am all for free speech, but with this great freedom we enjoy comes personal responsibilty, self-control, and a little common sense to thoughtfully choose appropriate venues to express our views and opinions. Unfortunately, we find more and more that common sense isn't too damn common, and that self-control and personal responsibility are quickly becoming virtues foreign to this country.

As members of yarisworld, we all share a responsiblity in keeping our forum relatively safe and legal and free from retribution, and in promoting and maintaining its generally positive character... within reason, of course.

We also each have the right to bring what we believe are innapropriate posts to the attention of our moderators, and then to allow them to do what they believe is in the best interest of the members and the forum.


here is a list of words I find inappropriate in your post


inappropriate-ok, what the fuck is that?
responsibility-be responsible for yourself
safe-ok, safe hmmmmmmmm? I'll have to ponder this one.
legal-government:barf: rules:barf: cops:barf:
positive character-ok, what the fuck is that some kind of religous bullshit?
common sense-ok, what the fuck is that?
self-control-more religous bullshit?


what you are doing is being judgemental, yes you have the right to report the post and the mods have the power to flip the switch, it's their call

don't preach to me

I smell a locked thread.

[kimona]

here is a list of words I find inappropriate in your post


inappropriate-ok, what the fuck is that?
responsibility-be responsible for yourself
safe-ok, safe hmmmmmmmm? I'll have to ponder this one.
legal-government:barf: rules:barf: cops:barf:
positive character-ok, what the fuck is that some kind of religous bullshit?
common sense-ok, what the fuck is that?
self-control-more religous bullshit?


what you are doing is being judgemental, yes you have the right to report the post and the mods have the power to flip the switch, it's their call

don't preach to me

I smell a locked thread.

No, I am not a religious zealot... in fact, quite the contrary. I simply thought we could have an intelligent exchange of ideas, albeit with differences of opinion. But apparently, this has proven to be something more than you can handle with any civility. Pity.

[eTiMaGo]

guys, guys, calm down :wink:

I personally agree with Kimona, there's off-topic and there's OFF-topic. But yes, there is a pesky thing called freedom of speech (see my sig :wink:), and who are we to prevent anyone from speaking their mind?

What we should consider is maybe adding a sub-forum like a soapbox or completely off-topic cess pit, where guys can debate points of view all you want, without affecting the more serious parts of the forum.

But always remember, the most important thing is to keep this forum into a relaxing and informative place where we can discuss things among friends.

And Brick, common sense is the most important sense you can ever have :wink:

[brickhardmeat]

thanks etimago,

I have what -I- consider common sense but someone else may not have the same -boundries- I do. that is my whole point there.

I'm all for the cesspool

[kurokoma-kun]

YW mosh pit! :headbang:

I was impressed by this lil debate--even when there is an argument, YarisWorlders have got to be some the most civilized people on teh internetz. We are pretty lucky... :smile:

[Nutzoids]

Ahem...

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE TOPIC... STAY OUT OF THE THREAD

MODERATORS ARE NOT POLICE... AND REAL POLICE HAVE NO POWER HERE!

SALVIA IS NOT A DRUG! IT’S INCENSE THAT KILLS YOUR BRAIN WHEN YOU SMOKE IT! JUST LIKE BANANA PEELS... JUST FOR THE RECORD YOU CAN GET BANANAS AT THE SUPERMARKET!

AGAIN I NEED TO SAY...IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE TOPIC... STAY OUT OF THE THREAD…

:evil:

[ChinoCharles]

Babelfish will free your soul... if not totally accurately.


Did not want to continue this thread but I really wanted to answer directly eTiMaGo. Initially, it thank you for your spectacle for support in favour from my point of view. I am not sure that another really includes/understands. Secondly, I want to answer your quotation of the "price of freedom of expression..." Never carried out just how much refuse one should tolerate until the life in the United States. Seem that the bad attitude is the standard here and the idea "of free country" and "freedom of expression" is the absolute and undeniable justification in the absence of the personal liability, the consideration for others and the self-discipline.

[sherryberry]

whooo I must have missed something here. I also have only seen maybe two locked threads. And I think they were appropriately locked.. but then again, I don't remember which threads they were.

Freedom of speech is a touchy subject because with our government *rolls eyes*, freedom of speech means freedom of SOME speech... You can't go around saying terrorism rocks and not get an angry mob of people, including the government, coming after you.

Now, what I believe is important is RESPECT. That word is so lost nowadays. Kids don't respect their parents anymore, etc. etc. Anyway, we need to realize that not everyone is going to think the same thing as us. And if they are stuck in their mindset, it doesn't matter what we say, they will not change their point of view. But that's what makes us all so unique. Why do we want everyone to share the same point of view.. things would be quite boring. We need to be open-minded towards what others have to say but not give up our own opinions. We are able to understand the other side but still, we will have our own opinions.

I think I'm rambled on enough.. and I have a lot more thoughts but I will stop here.

[jdium]

Freedom of speech does not include freedom of consequences...

[brickhardmeat]

Freedom of speech does not include freedom of consequences...


you are so absolutely fucking right for once

there are consequences for all things we do

I don't believe in governmental law but I am a strong believer in consequence

[sherryberry]

Freedom of speech does not include freedom of consequences...

agreed.. and I just saw that drink and drive thread and ugh.. yeah i got a big pet peeve of drinking and driving but I won't start talking about that here.

[jdium]

you are so absolutely fucking right for once

there are consequences for all things we do

I don't believe in governmental law but I am a strong believer in consequence

For once? :biggrin: