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Thirty-Nine
08-25-2007, 02:39 PM
I thought it might be good to make a definitive thread for Yaris coilovers. This would include what's available and any input people have. Please add to the list if you know of any other available applications.
Here's what's Available:
D2 RS Coilovers
Height adjustable
36-way dampening adjustable
Spring rates: Custom
http://www.d2racing.com
H&R Street-Performance
Height adjustable
Preset dampening
Spring rates: ?????
http://www.hrsprings.com
KW V3 coilover kit
Height-adjustable
14-way dampening adjustable (compression)
Infantile adjustable rebound
Spring rates: ?????
http://www.kw-suspension.com
Tein Basics
Height-adjustable
Preset dampening
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.): 224/174
http://www.tein.com
Tein Super Compacts
Height-adjustable
16-way dampening
Spring Rates (F/R, lbs. ??/??)
http://www.tein.co.jp
Megan Racing
Height-adjustable
32-way dampening adjustable
Optional Pillowball mounts (requires some modification)
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.): 280/336
http://www.meganracing.com
K-Sport
Height-adjustable
36-way dampening adjustable
Front pillowball mounts
Compression/rebound adjustable
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.): 392/140
http://www.ksportusa.com
Cusco Compact-S
Height-adjustable
Preset dampening
Upper pillow ball mounts
Spring rates (F/R, kgs./mm.): 7/3.3
http://www.cuscoracing.com
Cusco Zero-1
Height-adjustable
Pre-set dampning
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.):392/18x (?)
http://www.cuscoracing.com
eBay generic coilover sleeves
Height adjustable, no shocks
http://www.ebay.com
SilkRoad RMA8
Height-adjustable
8 Step Dampening
Spring rates (F/R, kgs/mm): 7/4
http://www.silkroad-usa.com/
HKS S-Compact
Height-adjustable
30-way adjustable
Pillowball fronts
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.): 280/448
http://www.hks-usa.com or www.hks-power.co.jp
C-One Sports Suspension Kit
Non-height adjustable (spring/shock kit)
Adjustable dampening
Spring rates (F/R, kgs/mm): 3.8/2.6
http://www.c-one.co.jp
brickhardmeat
08-25-2007, 03:17 PM
D2 Racing RS Coilovers
D2 Racing Coilovers Feature:
Fully adjustable (36-way dampening(51mm shocks), and ride height)
Custom spring rates (3.5, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 18, and 22 kg/mm)
Pillow ball mounts included w/ camber plates!
Telflon-coated threads
Flawless CNC finish
2 Keys for adjusting ride height
Carefully matched spring and damper rates
1 year warranty
http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/D2-T024
kurokoma-kun
08-25-2007, 04:50 PM
Thanks so much you guys! :thumbup: I've been trying to gather this info on my own...
yrsdrgn
08-25-2007, 06:28 PM
on www.bulletproofautomotive.com you can see that the cusco compact s coilovers are 7k in the front and about 3k in the rear.
Thirty-Nine
08-25-2007, 06:41 PM
on www.bulletproofautomotive.com you can see that the cusco compact s coilovers are 7k in the front and about 3k in the rear.
Noted -- thanks!
Also, is there a way we could possibly get this thread as a "sticky?"
How about tein super wagon?
03Z33
08-25-2007, 09:42 PM
Silkroad standard rates are 7K front and 4K rear. I special ordered mine with 8K front and 5K rear, they are great :thumbsup:
It may also be nice to mention which coilovers also include adjustable sway bar links and offer separate height adjustment from the spring adjustment. Silkroad and HKS both offer this as I'm sure a few of the others do.
reznunt
08-25-2007, 09:46 PM
good idea! can we add min/max height specs?
barebonedvitz
08-25-2007, 09:48 PM
Silkroad standard rates are 7K front and 4K rear. I special ordered mine with 8K front and 5K rear, they are great :thumbsup:
It may also be nice to mention which coilovers also include adjustable sway bar links and offer separate height adjustment from the spring adjustment. Silkroad and HKS both offer this as I'm sure a few of the others do.
oooo... how much for the silkroads?
blueskana
08-26-2007, 03:23 AM
Great info, thanks!
largeorangefont
08-26-2007, 04:16 AM
Silkroad standard rates are 7K front and 4K rear. I special ordered mine with 8K front and 5K rear, they are great :thumbsup:
It may also be nice to mention which coilovers also include adjustable sway bar links and offer separate height adjustment from the spring adjustment. Silkroad and HKS both offer this as I'm sure a few of the others do.
I guess that would be more accurately refered to as bump adjustment.
jdium
08-26-2007, 07:04 AM
General prices, maybe posted with an * asterisk would be a worthy addition?
eTiMaGo
08-26-2007, 09:12 AM
How about tein super wagon?
I think you mean Super Compacts, they're not sold in the US, but according to TEIN.co.jp they come with the same springs as the Basics, but offer damping adjustment and EDFC compatibility.
mojoyaris
08-28-2007, 12:30 AM
I have the Megans. They don't have the pillowball. You have to buy them separately and modify the install on the car. I now have them setup at the hardest setting and think I might actually change the springs in the front to a stiffer spring rate. I may also look into the camber bolts to adjust the camber instead of the pillowballs.
My friend had the Tein Basics which were too soft if you wanted that tucked in look.
He changed them up to another set which is way more stiffer. At their softest setting they are the same stiffness as my Megans at the mid setting. Sorry I can't remember what they were. I'll try to find out.
brickhardmeat
08-28-2007, 12:43 AM
softness has nothing to do with tuck:laugh:
you can get the wheels tucked in depending on size and offset with the teins as well
the Megans and others will go lower but the Teins don't throw the geometry of the car off...
...and they are a very nice ride for street
how are your soft tissue injuries?:help: :laugh:
mojoyaris
08-28-2007, 12:53 AM
softness has nothing to do with tuck:laugh:
you can get the wheels tucked in depending on size and offset with the teins as well
the Megans and others will go lower but the Teins don't throw the geometry of the car off...
...and they are a very nice ride for street
how are your soft tissue injuries?:help: :laugh:
I'm not talking about street. Track usage the Teins are too soft.
For the front if you want to tuck in your front wheels, it doesn't matter the offset really. What it is, is the plastic liner that you have to remove which gets in the way of the suspension movement. When you are cornering hard the wheel comes up and rubs against the liner.
For me I have about a half inch gap from the tire to the wheel well.
I guess you already have a set of Tein Basics?
(I'm a nice guy. be nice.).
yrsdrgn
08-28-2007, 12:55 AM
question. if you track your car and remove the wheel well liner and then drive it daily w/out the liner would a lot of debris get into the car? sorry if it sounds stupid but i rarely look at that area of the car
Black Yaris
08-28-2007, 01:00 AM
so far, will all agree the softest springs are the Tein's? so they would probibly be the best for a daily driver, who just want to ride low?
uncleyaris
08-28-2007, 01:04 AM
no mention of the trd oprtion?
brickhardmeat
08-28-2007, 01:05 AM
I'm not talking about street. Track usage the Teins are too soft.
For the front if you want to tuck in your front wheels, it doesn't matter the offset really. What it is, is the plastic liner that you have to remove which gets in the way of the suspension movement. When you are cornering hard the wheel comes up and rubs against the liner.
For me I have about a half inch gap from the tire to the wheel well.
I guess you already have a set of Tein Basics?
(I'm a nice guy. be nice.).
no wasn't trying to be mean to you, I hear you now, I wasn't sure where you were going with that, yes of course all that can be modified but I will totally agree with you, the teins are way to soft for serious tracking
I have 205/50/15 tires so no worries about rubbing really
mojoyaris
08-28-2007, 01:06 AM
I think they Teins are good for those who want the adjustability as an option. For a performance oriented setup. you might want something with a bit more stiffness or go the way of adding beefier front anti-roll bars.
For the liner issue. Yeah. you probably don't want to take it out. Just don't lower it too much. But on my other cars (older cars) they didn't come with liners in the wheel wells.
mojoyaris
08-28-2007, 01:09 AM
no wasn't trying to be mean to you, I hear you now, I wasn't sure where you were going with that, yes of course all that can be modified but I will totally agree with you, the teins are way to soft for serious tracking
I have 205/50/15 tires so no worries about rubbing really
no worries. Just all the talk about soft tissue and stuff..... it's kinda personal :eyebulge:
brickhardmeat
08-28-2007, 01:10 AM
question. if you track your car and remove the wheel well liner and then drive it daily w/out the liner would a lot of debris get into the car? sorry if it sounds stupid but i rarely look at that area of the car
big time mess, I would not recommend driving this car without the liners at all
so far, will all agree the softest springs are the Tein's? so they would probibly be the best for a daily driver, who just want to ride low?
yes soft but I have no roll to complain about driving my car like a psycho all over town, so I think they do a lot more for handling than simply riding low, if I just wanted to ride low I would have hacked my springs:biggrin:
no seriously, I had a set of springs on the car that lowered it 1.9 (as pictured in the garage) and the teins have a totally different feel than the lowering springs with stock dampers, much improvement
brickhardmeat
08-28-2007, 01:11 AM
no worries. Just all the talk about soft tissue and stuff..... it's kinda personal :eyebulge:
ouch, sorry:bellyroll:
it was just a little funnin' you about the stiff ride
YarisFan007
09-01-2007, 03:00 AM
I want to lower my Yaris. What do you think of installing just springs as oppose to coilovers? I would rather install coilovers so that i can have the ability to adjust the ride height for driving conditions, but i'm not sure i'm ready to spend close to $1,000 for them. I figure installing just the springs and keeping the stock shocks would be less of a dent in my wallet. What you think, is it worth investing in coilovers? Is it worth just getting springs? Help! Thanx.
cdmyaris
09-03-2007, 04:39 AM
I want to lower my Yaris. What do you think of installing just springs as oppose to coilovers? I would rather install coilovers so that i can have the ability to adjust the ride height for driving conditions, but i'm not sure i'm ready to spend close to $1,000 for them. I figure installing just the springs and keeping the stock shocks would be less of a dent in my wallet. What you think, is it worth investing in coilovers? Is it worth just getting springs? Help! Thanx.
i was in same boat as you were. I was gonna do springs but its depends what you want to do. For me, im tuner i like to play around with cars. So Tein comes with adjustments its something i would like. Tune the coilover and find my "perfect" spot.
Thirty-Nine
09-03-2007, 10:52 PM
I just wish the Tein Super Street dampeners were available.
Thirty-Nine
09-08-2007, 06:50 PM
Well, I decided to get the Megan racing coiliovers today. I hope they work well!
brickhardmeat
09-08-2007, 07:12 PM
Well, I decided to get the Megan racing coiliovers today. I hope they work well!
hope you like a very stiff ride:biggrin:
blueskana
09-09-2007, 04:14 AM
Don't worry 39: if they ride too stiff for you I'm SURE someone would happily buy them off of you (cough, cough.....) and if you wanted to switch back to just springs that someone may have a nice soft set of tein springs that they could offer already attached to stock struts for REEEEEALLY cheap (cough, cough..... ). So don't worry :wink:
mojoyaris
09-14-2007, 11:59 PM
I'm looking for something stiffer. I'm thinking I want stiffer springs for my Megans. or another set that's better for the track with a camber bolt for the fronts.
dsc_pat
09-25-2007, 01:10 AM
is it possible to adjust the front adjusting knob without removing the whippers and whipper cover ??
Thirty-Nine
09-25-2007, 12:06 PM
Yes. I cut my adjusting knobs down about 1.5". You can turn them, but it's a bit difficult. Now I just need to install the rest of the suspension.
For an adjustable knob suspension, you'll want to take that entire metal part off that has the wiper motor to put the adjusters on.
03Z33
09-25-2007, 12:10 PM
It's too bad they didn't use a shock with the adjuster on the bottom like the SK's... it makes it much easier to adjust, just turn the wheels one way and you have full access to the adjuster.
dsc_pat
09-25-2007, 12:58 PM
yeah taiwanese clone compagny rarely do R&D...
mojoyaris
09-28-2007, 01:02 AM
I'm looking at getting 7kg springs for the front for the Megans.
Malaya1221
11-21-2008, 04:12 AM
OP says SK(SILKROADS) are 7kgf/mm front and 4kgf/mm rear but on SK japan, it says 5kgf/mm front and 4kgf/mm back....which one is correct?
and also what else are the difference between the SK RM/A8 and DFV Ohlins other than the spring rates?
03Z33
11-21-2008, 11:21 AM
OP says SK(SILKROADS) are 7kgf/mm front and 4kgf/mm rear but on SK japan, it says 5kgf/mm front and 4kgf/mm back....which one is correct?
and also what else are the difference between the SK RM/A8 and DFV Ohlins other than the spring rates?
The 5K/4K listing on SK Japan site is new, it used to always be 7K/4K. Not sure if it's a typo or if they changed it to appeal to a more "comfort" oriented customer.
I ordered my setup with 8K front and 5K rear springs, I'm very happy with the balance. They also sent me the 7K/4K setup so I can switch if needed, that's one of the benefits to the SK setup is that it runs standard linear coilover springs both front and rear so you can swap out springs easily.
The other stong points of this setup are:
8 way adjustable damper (adjustment knobs can easily be accessed without any tools once installed)
monotube damper
separate height adjustmet front and rear
separate spring preload adjustment
adjustable front sway bar links included
Cali Yaris can answer better on the Ohlins, I'm pretty sure he's the only one to ever bring those in. I can't remember the screen name of the person who bought them but I do remember him saying he was very happy with the setup. If I remember correctly the Ohlins did not have height adjustable shocks in the rear and I don't recall if the shocks where dampening adjustable? Also I think the springs up are pigtail style to meet up with the stock upper mounts.
cali yaris
12-09-2008, 02:59 AM
^ all correct about the Ohlins and "thePoche" is the one that bought them.
My Silk Roads and the sets I have in stock are 7k/4k. Pretty stiff, but not unbearable.
revoturbo
12-15-2008, 08:14 PM
yesterday just install TEIN coilover super compact.. on my Yaris.. :thumbup:
a little hard than OEM standard shock set with tein spring only..
adjustable hard-soft.. & now must saving again for next project :
net yet try on hi speed handling ..
http://www.tein.co.jp/e/products/edfc.html
ka0sx
01-03-2009, 02:47 AM
so i dont see this answered..... what is the TRD coil spring Rates?
yesterday just install TEIN coilover super compact.. on my Yaris.. :thumbup:
a little hard than OEM standard shock set with tein spring only..
adjustable hard-soft.. & now must saving again for next project :
net yet try on hi speed handling ..
http://www.tein.co.jp/e/products/edfc.html
where can we get the super compact here in N.A.?
kngrsll
01-21-2009, 12:03 AM
did anyone know that H&R makes a coilover for the 07 yaris hatch now? its on the tirerack site...
http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/Susptabl.jsp?autoMake=Toyota&autoModel=Yaris+Hatchback&autoYear=2007&autoModClar=&brand=all
jkuchta
01-21-2009, 12:33 AM
I think Cali also sells them. Check out www.microimageonline.com
2006fronty
03-02-2009, 06:30 AM
KW Suspension also makes a set of coilovers for Yaris'. They look like they're one of the nicer sets of coilovers available, dual rate springs, independently adjustable rebound and compression damping. Part # 35256008 http://www.kw-suspension.com/en/30_Products/55_KW_Productfinder/index.php
I attached the install pdf as well.
Lafiro
03-12-2009, 11:29 AM
Whoa, those look sick.
My shocks on my car are dead.
I am currently trying to see what I can do to fix that, I don't think I want to invest any more money into this car though as my next project... is buying a house instead.
Thirty-Nine
03-12-2009, 08:34 PM
FYI, I had a set of matched KW springs/shocks on my 2001 Ford Focus, and they were very nice. I also added these to the first page.
SEVEN
03-13-2009, 09:09 PM
SO AFTER READING THIS WHOLE STICKY I'VE COME UP WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHICH COIL OVERS I SHOULD BUY!! so ... can anybody tell me which coils to buy????
Thirty-Nine
03-14-2009, 03:57 PM
SO AFTER READING THIS WHOLE STICKY I'VE COME UP WITH THE CONCLUSION THAT I CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA WHICH COIL OVERS I SHOULD BUY!! so ... can anybody tell me which coils to buy????
It depends on what you want, really. If you're concerned about ride, the Tein Basics are supposed to be pretty good. If you're more concerned about handling and adjustment, check out the Megan Racing/D2/KSport/BC Racing (they're about the same price as the Teins).
I'd say those are good places to start, since they're not too pricey. If you don't mind spending a decent amount of money, look in to the other options, such as the Silk Roads, the Cusco, KW, H&R, etc.
Just my dos centavos.
mrbond
03-23-2009, 11:20 AM
Alright, I've done a lot of searching through different forums and on the web in general, and I still don't know what the function is of pillow ball mounts: so what's their function? Additionally, I remember reading a long time ago that they cause additional stress to the frame. Is this true?
03Z33
03-23-2009, 12:14 PM
Pillowball is another term for an upper mount design that uses a "solid" spherical bearing instead of the stock rubber mounts.
The benefit of a "solid" mount like this is there is less unwanted deflections or twist that can throw off or change the alignment settings. It will also give more direct steering response and overall the car will feel more connected. On some cars with macpherson strut front suspension you can also adjust camber, caster or both from the upper mount by moving the mounting location in/out or forward/back.
The downsides can be:
more vibrations due to no rubber isolator
added maintenance (replace bearing if worn)
Here's a generic picture of two common pillowball designs. The one on the left is front for that specific application and allows camber adjustment by the four smaller nuts/bolts through the slotted holes . The one's on the right are solid for the rear but can also be used in front applications.
http://www.gpiperformance.com/images/HKS%202way%20pillow%20ball%20mounts.jpg
http://www.bc-racing.co.uk/_lib/_product/BR/top-closeup.jpg
Here's a generic front strut suspension picture I found on google, you can see it is using a rubber mount at the top of the picture where it would mount to the car.
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm78/jimnolimit/IMG_0197.jpg
mrbond
03-23-2009, 12:28 PM
^ Thanks a bunch - that was really helpful :)
GnomeBody
03-23-2009, 02:06 PM
This thread has been very helpful.
You guys seem to have a pretty good understanding of the Yaris's suspension and the modification there of.
I just finished paying off my Wifes car (AKA more money for my car) and I want to mod the suspension of my Yaris 3doorLB. I'm not too worried about the ride quality so much as I am its handling ability.
In the end, I think I want to get a coilover kit and some rear/front struts/braces but I have no idea of what a good combanation would be.
Any insight you guys might have to offer would be greatly appreciated.
yarstar
03-28-2009, 09:04 PM
My suspension history started with TRD springs that made a big difference over OEM suspension. I stiffened it up with spring rubbers up front, and used air shocks in the rear to help handle occasional heavy cargo loads. This worked well and eliminated rubbng while using 205/40R17s.
After a year I wanted more power and better cornering. I first went with lighter wheels (Enkei RPF1s) with 195/50/R15 tires. Then I got some coilovers.
D-A-M-N!!!
I didn't know how good this car could handle until now. I was lucky enough to get the last set of Cusco GT-Zeros on the continent (thanks Saggio!) and I am amazed at how well they work. My car is so damn low it's sick. AND it doesn't EVER rub! I don't know the science, but the thing is like its on rails. It nearly throws me out of the seat in turns, and never starts sliding. Dialing up the dampening only makes it better, but it does harshen the ride so I usually keep it dialed down for daily driving.
I appreciate all the input found here. I've never even heard of coilovers before, and I'm glad I found you guys. I am also really glad I invested my money in the "good stuff."
:headbang:
changchewsoon
04-01-2009, 11:24 AM
Would like to share this model of coilover:
Hot Bits DT2 Series:
- Oversized 52mm shock bodies for SUVs and 4WDs and 58mm struts for cars
- High-pressure mono-tube shock design
- 46mm shock piston diameter
- 22mm shock piston on 4WD products for enhanced durability
- Motorcross grade seals
- 40-step rebound adjustment (up to 80% change) and 30-step compression adjustment (up to 50% change)
- A superior grade, interchangeable 60mm CNC cold wound silicone steel coil springs
http://www.hotbits.org/new/dt2.php
http://www.hotbits.org/new/images/dt2a_05.jpg http://www.hotbits.org/new/images/dt2_08.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_RQcAxTVtNRs/SRkNEcrHFHI/AAAAAAAAAuc/WDw4lS7qwzM/s720/vios-turbo-8.jpg
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_RQcAxTVtNRs/SRkNEogF6tI/AAAAAAAAAuk/QA5aHgGkLkI/s720/vios-turbo-9.jpg
hatchbackkid82
04-01-2009, 11:57 AM
$2K..umm...no thanks i'm ok
changchewsoon
04-01-2009, 12:06 PM
yah it might be pricey to certain people, but you get what you pay for though.
hatchbackkid82
04-01-2009, 12:09 PM
yeah i'd rather pay 1300 for a decent set. not track racing the car. If i was track racin gthe car then yeah i could see it.
changchewsoon
04-01-2009, 12:19 PM
the thing i like about them is the cheap cost for servicing the shocks, to re-oil and re-valve the whole thing costs only about 20 USD per shocks.
Sabretooth
05-11-2009, 01:40 PM
Found these:
HKS S-Compact
Front 5k Rear 8k
30 Way Adjustable
Link- http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/catalog-detail.php?ID=5266
scape
05-28-2009, 04:18 PM
After a year I wanted more power and better cornering. I first went with lighter wheels (Enkei RPF1s) with 195/50/R15 tires. Then I got some coilovers.
D-A-M-N!!!
I appreciate all the input found here. I've never even heard of coilovers before, and I'm glad I found you guys. I am also really glad I invested my money in the "good stuff."
:headbang:
Where'd the TRD springs go? ;D
I also was looking at getting the 195/50 tires in 15's, and saving up for those same rims, ;D
how is the gearing now that you're at that profile of tire, I was thinking of going 195/55 personally to try and keep things similar to my 185/60's
would you say the coilovers are heavier than regular spring/shock combo?
yarstar
05-28-2009, 05:13 PM
Where'd the TRD springs go? ;D
I also was looking at getting the 195/50 tires in 15's, and saving up for those same rims, ;D
how is the gearing now that you're at that profile of tire, I was thinking of going 195/55 personally to try and keep things similar to my 185/60's
would you say the coilovers are heavier than regular spring/shock combo?
Sold the TRDs to another member here.
Gearing is fine. The only difference I notice is my speedo reads 80 mph and the GPS shows actually I'm going 75. Not a big deal to me. The real difference is the handling. The 195/50s have a stiffer sidewall so there is not alot of tire roll in turns. The S Drives really stick too.
Save your money up. the RPF1s are worth every penny. I've had Konigs and cheaper wheels, and you really get what you pay for. The finish on these is fantastic, and the weight advantage you really see in acceleration. Save up and get them. You will not be disappointed.
There is no weight difference that I noticed from stock springs/struts to coilovers. Again, just like I said to begin with, I am amazed at how well my car takes turns with them on. It carves like an expensive sports car. I live in the Mountains and drive twisty roads daily. I have so much fun, I sometimes take the long route just to enjoy my car.
m911gt
05-28-2009, 10:30 PM
Anyone have experience with the BC Racing Coilovers? Impressions?
http://www.eracingworks.com/BC-Racing-coilovers-TOYOTA-YARIS-07-Free-Shipping-p-44254.html
CDavis7M
06-12-2009, 03:28 AM
I have not bought the HKS S Compact coilovers. But, the site lists them at 5kg/mm in the front and 4.6kg/mm in the back. So, roughly (F/R) 280/260 lb/in.
http://www.hks-power.co.jp/products/suspension/hipermax/lineup/80120at008.html
darthbauer
06-12-2009, 04:00 PM
Are there any coilover's that can retain the stock height of the car?
darthbauer
06-17-2009, 02:41 AM
Anyone?? Anyone??
Thirty-Nine
06-17-2009, 03:20 AM
Anyone?? Anyone??
None that I know of ...
markitect
08-18-2009, 11:52 AM
Are there any coilover's that can retain the stock height of the car?
I'd be interested in some too, does anyone know what set can give you the smallest drop?
rob323
08-18-2009, 06:44 PM
I'm getting coilovers which will slightly raise my car (for rallying). Anything can be made if you go custom instead of big name off the shelf crap.
cali yaris
08-18-2009, 06:48 PM
megans and silk roads can be set at stock height, don't know other brands.
Rob, it's about time for a picture update of your project! :smile:
rob323
08-18-2009, 06:51 PM
I'll put up a pic of my new front rally shocks with custom strut tops (to allow more shock travel) when they arrive. Will that keep you happy? :smile:
cali yaris
08-18-2009, 06:56 PM
+ a few of the cage again? It's like a story -- someone can read it to you over and over again... :biggrin:
markitect
08-19-2009, 10:53 AM
I'm getting coilovers which will slightly raise my car (for rallying). Anything can be made if you go custom instead of big name off the shelf crap.
Yeah, wanna pay half so I could afford custom ones?
rob323
08-19-2009, 09:52 PM
Yes I know where you are coming from. I'm paying more for one front strut than you guys pay for a complete set of fronts and rears.
If the shock bodies have similar overall extended and compressed lengths, then the addition of some helper springs, or even change the springs entirely for longer ones, will allow you to keep the same ride height. The problem with aftermarket coilovers in Australia is that most of them have shorter bodies than the stock shocks and when you jack them right up to get the ride height you want, you run out of droop travel and the springs become un-entrapped.
Sabretooth
08-19-2009, 10:26 PM
If you are looking to start doing Rally, you could always try and check on other Rally oriented forums to get an idea what to look for in suspension specifically geared towards Rallycross or full blown Rally. Another good thing to do is contact Yaris T-Sport, hes the only guy on here who downright has built his car for and done Rallycross in his Yaris.
rob323
08-20-2009, 01:29 AM
My suspension requirements are all sorted thanks to a local manufacturer that has it's back ground in rallying.
http://www.mcasuspension.com/
Steven Dionne
09-12-2009, 05:00 PM
http://stdsuspension.com
No need to play with spring to lower the car so no spring rate change.
15 way adjustable to so soft for your Girlfriend to pain in your back.
Come with adjustable link.
Available with pillow mount
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p307/gt1car/IMG_0582.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p307/gt1car/IMG_0590.jpg
http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p307/gt1car/IMG_0600.jpg
lilredrocket
09-12-2009, 06:30 PM
Steven that is a nice set-up. Do you mind me asking how much it was and what the spring rates are?
kngrsll
09-12-2009, 06:58 PM
that does look nice! lets see some dyno data
Steven Dionne
09-13-2009, 01:41 AM
Steven that is a nice set-up. Do you mind me asking how much it was and what the spring rates are?
I actually manage a performance shop so i didn't pay to much. retail is about 1500$ can
spring rate is unknown for now :iono: STD make custom spring rate application if needed.
Steven Dionne
09-13-2009, 01:44 AM
that does look nice! lets see some dyno data
Thanks,
For the Dyno, its all stock. (I will only put a AFE intake and maybe a complete exhaust.)
When I need power, I'll take my other car.
7MGTE+ GT35r =Happiness
lilredrocket
09-13-2009, 01:46 AM
He ment spring dyno to find out stiffness
Steven Dionne
09-13-2009, 02:00 AM
sorry for the mistakes,
how I do a Spring dyno?
lilredrocket
09-13-2009, 02:01 AM
not sure. can you not just ask them the spring rates?
kngrsll
09-13-2009, 05:50 PM
no, no, a shock dyno.
i have hard good things about those coilovers actually. do you plan on selling them?
lilredrocket
09-13-2009, 08:21 PM
Ok then I just learned something new.
Steven Dionne
09-14-2009, 10:57 AM
no, no, a shock dyno.
i have hard good things about those coilovers actually. do you plan on selling them?
If you want them, I can sell it brand new for 1500$
+ shipping PM me if you want.
lilredrocket
09-14-2009, 04:15 PM
I would think about it if you had some specs on the springs
kngrsll
09-14-2009, 05:27 PM
If you want them, I can sell it brand new for 1500$
+ shipping PM me if you want.
not for me, just in general. what specific set up was that? they seem to offer 5 types.
Steven Dionne
09-15-2009, 05:10 PM
Springs is in front
336lbs
rear is half 168lbs
half 224lbs
Can make custom for your desire.
I have R1 on my car
Bill@WORKS
09-23-2009, 03:22 PM
Thought I'd chime in since we are working with a customer on building a Yaris Rally/Rallycross car.
The Hot Bits coilovers can be ordered in many different levels from mild to wild, with many build options including long travel rally spec that keeps ride height stock or raises it. As mentioned above they are also extremely cheap and easy to service and rebuild.
There basic kits are as cheap as $950, with an remote resevoir adjustable DT1 kit at around $1600.
We've used them on our Rally America Lancer Ralliart with good results. They aren't Ohlins, but they are up there.
Hope this info is helpful.
-Bill@WORKS
http://www.worksmotorsports.com
changchewsoon
09-24-2009, 01:41 AM
:thumbup: +1 for the post above, im quite happy with my hotbits dt1 :)
rob323
09-26-2009, 06:51 AM
I had Hotbits on my previous car (Mitsubishi VR4). It was used for all sorts of competition from motorkhanas, hill climbs, track days, tarmac rallies, grass motorkhanas etc. Pretty much everything except for full blown dirt rallies.
I had them on the car for 4 years and gave them hell and had no problems what so ever. I would definately recommend Hotbits over the other Chinese stuff floating around.
On another note, I picked up my rally suspension today. Here's a small taste of what's available when you go full custom.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e154/rob323vr4/ghecho/IMG_6128001.jpg
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window_lee
10-23-2009, 08:42 AM
so anyone here use the setup of D2 Racing RS Coilovers??? if so, what do u think about it???
kameya87
10-27-2009, 11:33 PM
can you give me some advice on changing the light color? and is it illegal?
ozmdd
10-28-2009, 12:24 AM
can you give me some advice on changing the light color? and is it illegal?
??? What light?:iono:
rob323
10-28-2009, 12:52 AM
Illuminated coil overs? Ricer! :biggrin:
window_lee
10-28-2009, 09:56 AM
there is also BC Racing Coilovers on the market for Yaris
TRD93
12-10-2009, 02:13 PM
Ive searched a little bit but am unable to find coilovers for the sedan other than tein.. everything i see is for the liftback. Does anyone know if they are interchangeable or who else makes coilovers for the sedan? thanks
TRD93
12-10-2009, 02:14 PM
Im going back to 15s from the current 17s and the trd springs are just not cutting it. I want more low and more stiff lol!
rob323
12-10-2009, 04:12 PM
and the trd springs are just not cutting it. I want more low and more stiff lol!
Unless you actually want a crap ride, use shocks to stiffen the ride, not springs.
hmm, i'm really just starting to look at coilovers for my yaris. Some good stuff here, it'll be interesting to learn about everything. I've noticed a difference though, people say some coilovers aren't really worth it, while others are really good. From what I've seen so far, the hot bits ones are pretty good, and those D2's with all the different adjustments are pretty good too. I might as well get fully adjustable just to figure out what they all do and how they make the car handle more to my liking.
But with spring rates for coilovers, what are good ones for road & race? I assume anything above 10 k or so just won't be livable on a normal road, is this right?
TRD93
12-11-2009, 12:10 PM
I have stock shocks on the trd springs. The main thing is they are not low enough, stock yaris sits like a tractor and the trds didint help all that much. That is the reason i want coils to stiffen it up a bit.
JumpmanYaris
12-11-2009, 01:03 PM
TRD works just fine for me however i like coilovers to and gonna get some once i get some money saved pass my TRDs to the LB
marcus
01-22-2010, 08:08 PM
which one is the cheapest coil by the way..
thebarber
01-22-2010, 08:49 PM
which one is the cheapest coil by the way..
likely megan...
or tein basics
DerFlosser
01-23-2010, 04:31 PM
If by "cheap" you mean price...I have not found Tein for any less than $955 and $1000 shipped is about the best I've seen. I have seen Megan for atleast $100-$150 lower than that so...I think that if by "cheap" you are talking price, Megan is cheaper.
marcus
01-24-2010, 03:44 PM
im assuming tein stech has the lowest drop without going coilover..but had sagging issues..df210 gives agood drop but not low enuff..
ozmdd
01-25-2010, 02:36 PM
Anyone have feedback on different spring rates with their coilovers? I see a pretty broad range on this thread, and I'm curious why certain brands seem to offer a much higher rear spring rate than others?
Does anyone have thought on a good balance between streetability and track performance?
thebarber
01-25-2010, 03:21 PM
megans are STIFF! real stiff. but i found i got used to it. im on stock shocks/struts and eibach prokits for the winter and when i first but them on they felt super squishy!
mojoyaris
01-25-2010, 11:03 PM
Megans are stiff in the rear....if you use the 6kg for the rear.
I have a set of 8kgs for the rear and 7kgs for the front for the Megans.
That's about the highesty you can go for this setup.
Currently using the stock springs with Tokiko HTS's and I need that extra clearance. While everyone else is going for the low and mean look, it doesn't do anything for the car when you bottom out!!!
The setup as it is, is pretty stiff and good control.
Now for a 7kg or lets go up to 10KG for the front, You won't want to drive it much on a bumpy road if the valving is really stiff.
I would say if you're daily driving it. Stick with a good set of progressive rate springs and quality adjustable dampeners(shocks).
The other thing to consider, if you do alot of mountain highway driving on bumpy roads and have a really stiff setup. You won't be going very fast comfortably.
Also to consider your toe and camber angles for the setup as well as bump steer.
BlooBeered
02-06-2010, 02:01 PM
Does anyone have a good document, or a link to solid instruction on how to install coil-overs? Info seems patchy, and I'm not expecting much help from whatever documentation comes from the coil-over manufacturer...
Emerge
04-04-2010, 02:39 AM
Does anyone have any FAQ's or links that will be able to give me a basic understanding of a car's suspension? I've never been a handy man, but I am very motivated to learn.
Also, are there any options for the 03 Echo Sedan? I am not looking to race. I do drive free-spiritedly once in a long while, but I am more interested in lowering my ride and replacing my car's parts with better performance parts. I have about 120k miles on the car already, and I've been told I should replace the "struts."
I don't even know what struts are =/...
TRD93
06-09-2010, 02:08 AM
So for the sedan the only coilovers out right now are tein basics, megans and h&r?
advocate
06-09-2010, 03:17 AM
7 pages and no one has listed any of the drop distances for any of these coilover sets
thebarber
06-09-2010, 09:35 AM
i had my megans two and a bit fingers from the top of the spindle and about 1/2" down from the top in the rear
yeilded about 1.75" drop in the front and 2" drop in the rear
next year:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/dabarber/yaris/tanabe%20sustec/tanabesustec.jpg
DeathBeard
07-13-2010, 06:48 PM
Man I wish there was a way you could run camber plates on the yaris.. sucks resorting to camber bolts..still trying to figure out why toyota went with the design it did on the yaris tophats? Given the honda fits similarity in design they obviously must know something i don't, this car seems narrow and tall, negative camber really transorms this thing, toyota engineers severly cock block
Stevo8
07-22-2010, 03:21 PM
(If you are looking to start doing Rally, you could always try and check on other Rally oriented forums to get an idea what to look for in suspension specifically geared towards Rallycross or full blown Rally. Another good thing to do is contact Yaris T-Sport, hes the only guy on here who downright has built his car for and done Rallycross in his Yaris. )... this is a quote from page 5 of this forum
__________________
I rally cross my Yaris and am doing quite well. http://www.oregonrally.com/files/RX_PM_06_27_10.pdf
My Yaris is currently bone stock except for a hot bits rear Anti sway bar & a TRD air filter.
Does anybody know how to get in touch with T-Sport ( there are 3 similar names listed)
Thanks
ddongbap
07-22-2010, 04:28 PM
Remember, in off road, you want the lowest you can go. Oh wait..
rob323
07-22-2010, 05:10 PM
Remember, in off road, you want the lowest you can go. Oh wait..
Actually yes you do, or as low as your sump guard strength will allow as it becomes an integral part of the suspension if you go too low :biggrin:.
cali yaris
07-22-2010, 06:08 PM
So for the sedan the only coilovers out right now are tein basics, megans and h&r?
+ Tanabe, Silk Road, KIDO, and several more. Aren't they listed at the beginning of the thread?
botchilah
10-10-2010, 01:57 AM
Hope someone can help me here. A friend basically gave me a slightly used set of D2 RS coil-overs for my Yaris and was curious about the spring rates. Haven't installed them yet. I know the springs can be ordered as custom stuff, but in case you didn't specify what rates to get, do they ship out with a default spring rate set front to rear?
And how tough/reliable are these. I've only had experience with TEIN, HKS Hiprmaxes and Cuscos so D2 is new to me.
rob323
10-10-2010, 06:39 PM
There should be writing on the springs to tell you the rate and the free length of them.
I have had bad experiences with D2's on other cars, hopefully they work better for you.
itscarboy
12-17-2010, 07:13 PM
C8SPORT (http://www.c8sport.com) SSD Coilovers are also available for the Yaris. Spring rates are 6kg front and 3kg rear.
bwd1973
03-25-2011, 01:38 AM
Looking at buying some coilovers asap. I street drive so from what Im reading looks like Tein is the way to go. Anybody have any experience with KSport? They stiffer or softer than Megan? Thanks fellas
3cyltrbo
03-28-2011, 11:35 AM
Looking at buying some coilovers asap. I street drive so from what Im reading looks like Tein is the way to go. Anybody have any experience with KSport? They stiffer or softer than Megan? Thanks fellas
what he said
+ 1
Aarron_M
03-31-2011, 01:59 AM
1st post, just bought 2011 Yaris 3dr. Looking for coilovers as well. Are there any changes throughout the years that make some years incompatible with others?
Aarron_M
03-31-2011, 10:55 AM
Think I'm gonna go with the FK coilovers from Vivid Racing. Calling today, having overnighted and will install this weekend if they're in stock. I'll post my thoughts if this all works out.
ilikerice
03-31-2011, 12:34 PM
1st post, just bought 2011 Yaris 3dr. Looking for coilovers as well. Are there any changes throughout the years that make some years incompatible with others?
nope.. only difference is with the sedan and the LB... but 4dr and 3dr LB are the same thru the years... SO FAR
Aarron_M
03-31-2011, 12:42 PM
nope.. only difference is with the sedan and the LB... but 4dr and 3dr LB are the same thru the years... SO FAR
Thanks. :biggrin:
dingbat
03-31-2011, 03:12 PM
nope.. only difference is with the sedan and the LB... but 4dr and 3dr LB are the same thru the years... SO FAR
What are the differences between the sedan and LB as far as compatibility of coilovers goes?
Aarron_M
03-31-2011, 03:34 PM
Think I'm gonna go with the FK coilovers from Vivid Racing. Calling today, having overnighted and will install this weekend if they're in stock. I'll post my thoughts if this all works out.
Ended up going with the Megans. FK's were in Germany and not in stock. Would've taken 4-6 weeks. Screw that.
ilikerice
03-31-2011, 06:48 PM
i dont know.. cali yaris could probably explain more about that since he sells both and probably could get his hands on them at the same time and tell you.. i think its the way they bolt up, and/or clearance
Aarron_M
04-08-2011, 12:57 PM
2011 w/Megan coilovers installed. PITA with shitty directions.
http://kutsujuracing.com/mediapost/data/500/003a4.jpg
http://kutsujuracing.com/mediapost/data/500/004a2.jpg
Autocross72
04-23-2011, 11:41 PM
I just bought a 2008 3 door LB that only has 13,200 miles on it. I don't even have the car yet, it has to be delivered from Denver to Seattle, but I have already ordered Megan Racing coil-overs (thanks for all the info here), upper front strut tower brace, lower front brace, and a rear spoier! I can't wait to get the car and start putting on parts!!
Kongo-Otto
04-24-2011, 07:18 AM
There is a new coilover kit for our Yaris. Maybe someone could add it to the first page of this thread. I am not sure if it gets available outside of Europe.
Bilstein B14 PSS
Height-adjustable
Preset dampening
spring rates ???
http://www.bilstein.de/en/home.html
Part number: 47-188044
Bilstein says their suspension system are all tested at Papenburg test track (40% property of Mercedes Benz) and at the famous Nürburgring Nordschleife. The shocks even have a small Nordschleife sticker on them.
Are there any good reputable coilovers for yaris rallyX? besides hotbits
aruester
06-01-2011, 04:43 PM
http://www.speedalliance.com/catalog/product.php?productid=21499&cat=2255&page=1
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/s0c.asp?id=6
TANABE SUSTEC PRO S-OC For 09-10 TOYOTA YARIS
Year 09-10
Spring Rates F/R 4.0 / 3.0
Height Adj. F/R* +1/4~-1 3/4 / -1 1/4~-2 3/4
Part # TSC121
MSRP $990.00
Anyone? A buddy who has tracked a few different cars swears by these. Has anyone installed them? I don't see a link on the front page so I'm guessing not...
thebarber
06-01-2011, 04:49 PM
http://www.speedalliance.com/catalog/product.php?productid=21499&cat=2255&page=1
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/s0c.asp?id=6
TANABE SUSTEC PRO S-OC For 09-10 TOYOTA YARIS
Year 09-10
Spring Rates F/R 4.0 / 3.0
Height Adj. F/R* +1/4~-1 3/4 / -1 1/4~-2 3/4
Part # TSC121
MSRP $990.00
Anyone? A buddy who has tracked a few different cars swears by these. Has anyone installed them? I don't see a link on the front page so I'm guessing not...
pm yaris2010RS, he has a set on his car
aruester
06-01-2011, 05:12 PM
^THanks! I sent him a message.
Kongo-Otto
06-07-2011, 12:12 PM
Received my coilovers today. Its a H&R/Bilstein monotube coilover set.
Here are some pictures:
http://i56.tinypic.com/10sdjk3.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/5ajdkj.jpg
Bilstein upside-down shocks in the front
http://i54.tinypic.com/2kkifo.jpg
CAyaris
06-22-2011, 05:18 AM
Hey guys so im looking for some coilovers on my yaris sedan. I need to sit low. I already understand that the ride quality will not be great at all and that is perfectly fine by me. Can anyone help me out
JumpmanYaris
06-22-2011, 09:17 AM
Hey guys so im looking for some coilovers on my yaris sedan. I need to sit low. I already understand that the ride quality will not be great at all and that is perfectly fine by me. Can anyone help me out
the quality of the ride is fine by me its actually not that bad
soloecho2
06-29-2011, 09:47 PM
I currently have a set of Tein SS coilovers. At the last track day the RH rear lower bushing separated from the outer sleeve. Has anyone delt with Tein before ? Can I order the lower bushing from them or do I have to send the shock to them ? Does anyone make replacement bushings aftermarket for them ? I have emailed them but no reply so far. My next track day is July 24 I think. Any help is appreciated.
Supercompact
07-31-2011, 12:56 PM
i just buy TEIN super compact for my 2006 yaris ..
any TIPS for that ?
lk250f
11-11-2011, 05:12 PM
does anyone have experience with ISC coils? saw them on ebay and they look nice. What are the lowest coils for this car? I was looking at ksport. Thanks
mr_miles
11-14-2011, 11:26 PM
Debating between buying the megan racing and the Tanabe Sustec Pro S0C coilvoers. The megans can drop lower and are stiffer, correct?
03Z33
11-15-2011, 01:11 AM
does anyone have experience with ISC coils? saw them on ebay and they look nice. What are the lowest coils for this car? I was looking at ksport. Thanks
Never heard of ISC... probably ebay junk. Ksport are no good for Yaris, don't go very low and run a troublesome front adjustable swaybar bracket.
Kido, Megan and Silkroad are the lowest and most complete coilovers for those that want to slam the car.
Debating between buying the megan racing and the Tanabe Sustec Pro S0C coilvoers. The megans can drop lower and are stiffer, correct?
Correct, the Tanabe will be sprung softer and more comfort oriented. Megan is sprung stiffer and can go lower.
Kido goes just as low as megan and has the benefit of coming with the adjustable front swaybar links and hard rubber rear upper shock mounts as well as being offered in various spring rates for no additional charge.
mr_miles
11-15-2011, 04:53 AM
Correct, the Tanabe will be sprung softer and more comfort oriented. Megan is sprung stiffer and can go lower.
Kido goes just as low as megan and has the benefit of coming with the adjustable front swaybar links and hard rubber rear upper shock mounts as well as being offered in various spring rates for no additional charge.
! after reading up on them I think I'll go with the KIDO's.....now if i could come up with that extra money right after xmas i could go pick them up from Garm when I'm visiting family down there.....
since the dampening rates are adjustable, i can adjust them for a more comfort oriented setting for when i have to chauffeur the lady around. I think I'm sold. :wub:
ilikerice
11-15-2011, 09:41 AM
I got megans, I do like the adjustable dampening for track and street use.. but I will say this.. my girl still thinks the softest setting is very harsh.. I took her for a ride with the hardest setting and we didnt get around the block before she wanted to get out. women and thier ride quality needs..
mr_miles
11-15-2011, 01:58 PM
I got megans, I do like the adjustable dampening for track and street use.. but I will say this.. my girl still thinks the softest setting is very harsh.. I took her for a ride with the hardest setting and we didnt get around the block before she wanted to get out. women and thier ride quality needs..
I'm hoping she wont mind since she wants coil overs on her Miata after riding in our friends xb, lol. If she don't like it she can drive her car instead of riding with me :p
Mandos
11-21-2011, 05:35 AM
Starting to make some sort of "whishlist" for my car and I had some questions reguarding the suspension system since I'm a beginner in car tuning.
What I'd like to know is what's the main diffrence between springs / shocks and soil-overs ( before I'm asked, I'm looking to make the car drop a bit (not too much since Quebec's road arent the nicest) and something with nice handling.
Also, I keep on seeing people talking about xx kg front / xx kg rear me wants to know what those number means
Thanks for your help all
banifesto
02-12-2012, 12:38 AM
Hi folks,
Just wondering, will NCP91 suspension parts fit NCP93 (sedan)? thinking to get a coilovers but mostly list out Yaris NCP91 as the model, and I'm not sure they will fit nicely on the Sedan?
cali yaris
02-12-2012, 02:04 AM
^ All of them. The suspensions are the same.
Springs alone (not coilovers) sometimes set the ride height slightly differently, but all the parts fit - springs, struts, shocks, sway bars, bracing, etc.
carlo0616
02-12-2012, 04:25 PM
D2 FTW
cali yaris
02-12-2012, 06:23 PM
what's the main diffrence between springs / shocks and soil-overs
Yaris only really gets coilovers (Coil-Over-Shock) in the front, the rears stay separate.
In general, "coilovers" give you adjustment in ride height, and some provide adjustment with pre-load, damping stiffness, etc. You can adjust your height by purchasing different springs, but you are stuck with whatever fixed length spring you bought.
I keep on seeing people talking about xx kg front / xx kg rear me wants to know what those number means
This is the spring rate, a measure of the stiffness.
banifesto
02-13-2012, 08:48 PM
^ All of them. The suspensions are the same.
Springs alone (not coilovers) sometimes set the ride height slightly differently, but all the parts fit - springs, struts, shocks, sway bars, bracing, etc.
Thanks for the assurance mr. garm.. I tested the H&R street coilovers fitted on a polo gti, although the damping is non-adjustable, the ride is :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
I'm sure it'll be nice on the yaris as well.
cali yaris
02-14-2012, 02:05 AM
Yes they will feel great. Progressive springs are really nice on street cars.
DeathBeard
04-09-2012, 02:49 AM
my next coilovers im getting are going to be the kido... i had tein basics and didn't like losing spring preload to lower height
DeathBeard
04-09-2012, 02:51 AM
basics maxed out
barebonedvitz
06-17-2012, 07:29 AM
i'm sort of a noob in suspension rebuilding.. do all coilover companies rebuild/overhaul? which company would you rather settle with?
I know tein rebuilds theirs, but sometimes, i don't think it's worth it since i can just get a new set from another brand... however, depending on what needs to be done, it seems like i can save money as well..
any thoughts on this?
i'm sort of a noob in suspension rebuilding.. do all coilover companies rebuild/overhaul? which company would you rather settle with?
I know tein rebuilds theirs, but sometimes, i don't think it's worth it since i can just get a new set from another brand... however, depending on what needs to be done, it seems like i can save money as well..
any thoughts on this?
Not all coilovers can be rebuilt. And some can be redone with components from other brands, depending on the sizing. Plus there are companies that can revalve and redo aftermarket coilovers but don't actually manufacturer any.
Are you saying Tein charges as much as an entire new set just to rebuild coilovers? That sounds really expensive.
barebonedvitz
06-19-2012, 04:58 AM
Not all coilovers can be rebuilt. And some can be redone with components from other brands, depending on the sizing. Plus there are companies that can revalve and redo aftermarket coilovers but don't actually manufacturer any.
Are you saying Tein charges as much as an entire new set just to rebuild coilovers? That sounds really expensive.
yeah, i've read up on some folks who have gotten their Tein's rebuilt.. some did not require extensive work, some did... plus you pay for shipping to and from.. Here's their website (http://www.tein.com/service/price_list.html).. $175/damper (incl overhaul and revalving) it's pretty much like buying a new set of Basics...
anyhow.. do we have a list of these companies that revalve/overhaul coilovers? it would be good to have them listed on here for us who are contented with our current coilover setups... like me..i would like to find an alternative to sending mine to Tein..
thanks in advance. :thumbup:
imola_s4
07-17-2012, 10:43 AM
Quick question do coilovers from any scion xb/xa/xd work with the yaris??? Do they have the same suspension setup???? Just wanna know??
I posed the exact same quesiton to Jeff @ MI and he told me that the cars are extremely similar and weigh close to the same so some companies may interchange the parts but others may still use different part numbers for each. The best way to get a difinitive answer is to contact that manufactorer directly and ask them if the parts are the same, or visit their website and see if you can find part numbers that match between cars.
thebarber
07-17-2012, 02:20 PM
Quick question do coilovers from any scion xb/xa/xd work with the yaris??? Do they have the same suspension setup???? Just wanna know??
front struts are different....you won't be able to use them on the yaris....no attachment point for the sway bar end link
JayTee09
10-03-2012, 09:47 PM
front struts are different....you won't be able to use them on the yaris....no attachment point for the sway bar end link
i was thinking about this the other day while on the raceland website, but the xb2 has an end link mount point it's just lower than our s. Theoretically could you make xb2 coilovers work with a shortened end link?
There are adjustable endlinks. :rolleyes:
JayTee09
10-04-2012, 12:32 PM
Yeah, I think I'm gonna look into this. I just have to make sure the the bolt spacing on the spindles, and the mounts for the rear shocks match up. I'll keep you guys in the loop if I find something.
HANZO_187
11-07-2012, 01:51 AM
Hey, I'm lookin for some info on how I what I can do for my Yaris Sedan.
I'm lookin to lower it for comfortably on the road, It's a daily driver so I'm not lookin for anything thats track specific. Something to lower my car, something that helps me take turns well with out too much body roll, and something that's not gonna have too much "give" when breaking and accelerating.
Plus I do want it to give a lean look over all.
I'm new to this, so take it easy. I need to be taught, not teased.
Let suspension 101 begin...lol
cali yaris
11-07-2012, 02:30 AM
These are street-friendly coilover kits:
Megan Racing
Tein Street Basis
Tanabe
Do you need to lower it a LOT? Eliminate Tanabe.
All in stock and available from Micro Image. :smile:
HANZO_187
11-07-2012, 02:49 AM
These are street-friendly coilover kits:
Megan Racing
Tein Street Basis
Tanabe
Do you need to lower it a LOT? Eliminate Tanabe.
All in stock and available from Micro Image. :smile:
NOTED!
Thats professor awesome, I'm gonna do some home work on those and I'll let you know what happens! I wanna lower it 2" inches tops if not just 1 1/2 inches.
cali yaris
11-07-2012, 11:04 AM
^ That's doable with all the coilover kits. 3" would not work with the Tanabe. :smile:
HANZO_187
11-07-2012, 12:18 PM
^ That's doable with all the coilover kits. 3" would not work with the Tanabe. :smile:
Ok sounds good. Hey is there different set ups for the front and back? I'm learning how to read this shit still. Lol
cali yaris
11-07-2012, 12:19 PM
Best to call us. (818) 610-3635 Happy to walk you through it so you get the best products for your needs.
HANZO_187
11-07-2012, 12:22 PM
I'll save the number and I'll give you guys a ring when I have some time. Hey how about the spring kits, can they get the performance and look at the price less for coilover?
cali yaris
11-07-2012, 02:36 PM
Yes, but for 2" lowering, you should combine that with better struts and shocks.
for *about* a 2" drop, Tein S Techs are a great choice, paired with Tokico Blues.
You'll save hundreds off a coilover kit, but you won't be able to adjust your ride height.
I like my tanabe ... Not slammed but I think it's low enough .. Plus it's not bouncy at all. Even my mom approved ! Lol
FHT_Racing
01-14-2013, 08:15 PM
I am building a SPEC B car for SCCA later this year and a full season next year. Any suggestions on coil-overs that do NOT have rebound/dampening adjustability? Just height.
Thanks,
Andrew
DeathBeard
02-18-2013, 08:30 PM
Hotbits out of uk
malibuguy
02-26-2013, 12:22 PM
I am building a SPEC B car for SCCA later this year and a full season next year. Any suggestions on coil-overs that do NOT have rebound/dampening adjustability? Just height.
Thanks,
Andrew
Tein Basis, garm sells em
http://shop.microimageonline.com/NEW-TEIN-Street-Basis-coilovers-Yaris-GSL70-11AS2.htm
anything with adjustable dampening would work for you but if you plan to eliminate all wheel gap then you will be pretty low and that could still make the ride harsh.
Bags might be better for you but that is a pricey option.
Coilover options for your yaris:
I know the tein and tanabe are non damper adjustable, i think all the others should be
http://shop.microimageonline.com/Coilovers_c20.htm
helladopebev
04-12-2013, 11:25 AM
So if I want to slam my yaris sedan with some 17's on them which suspension would you guys recommend? I don't want something super expensive because it's a daily driver nd I'm in Florida so no hills or anything. Thanks!
Where at in FL? Im in Tampa.
I would recommend Megan. They seem to be the best bang for buck. You get full adjustability and theyre the cheapest available. They slam you freaking low too!
EXAMPLE:
50462
helladopebev
04-12-2013, 12:15 PM
Where at in FL? Im in Tampa.
I would recommend Megan. They seem to be the best bang for buck. You get full adjustability and theyre the cheapest available. They slam you freaking low too!
EXAMPLE:
50462
I am in Bradenton, 45 min away.
Okay thanks I was thinking those but wasn't exactly sure. :)
Nice. Come out to some meets with the rest ot the FL yarii community. Check the regionals
helladopebev
04-12-2013, 12:49 PM
Nice. Come out to some meets with the rest ot the FL yarii community. Check the regionals
THERE'S YARIS MEETS HERE?!?! Where nd when?! That's tiiighht!
Lol yea only if I throw them though lol no one else does. V2Labs is Sunday, there will be at least myself and Ray out there hopefully more
helladopebev
04-12-2013, 12:57 PM
Lol yea only if I throw them though lol no one else does. V2Labs is Sunday, there will be at least myself and Ray out there hopefully more
Hell yeah! Well whenever you guys throw these meets feel free to PM me the address nd stuff nd I'll be there for sure!!
cali yaris
04-12-2013, 01:17 PM
Southern Streets baby!
Garm you're awesome lol
SoSts is combining with our boys True Legacy for hopefully what is the largest single rollout to V2 this year (~70-100 cars)
banifesto
05-12-2013, 11:58 AM
Came across this - Tein Street Flex (new in 2013)
similar feature to mono flex but this one is twin-tube construction, not monotube.
higher spring rates than the basis & street advance, with full body height adjustable. sounds badass.
P/N: GSQ32-41AS2
arose62
05-31-2013, 06:02 PM
Had a chuckle at this on the first page of this thread:
KW V3 coilover kit
Height-adjustable
14-way dampening adjustable (compression)
Infantile adjustable rebound
Spring rates: ?????
"Infantile" ??
helladopebev
08-26-2013, 11:30 PM
K-Sport or Megan Racing? Daily driven sedan. Thanks!
Megan I Daily my sedan on them slammed almost maxed out and I love them
ilikerice
08-27-2013, 12:23 PM
+1 for megan. I DD my car and autocross monthly. Best bang for the buck.
Just make sure you torque all your bolts down. My top mount bolt was backing out causing a strut tower rattle. Happened last year and its been fine since. User error.
cali yaris
08-27-2013, 12:45 PM
K-Sport or Megan Racing? Daily driven sedan. Thanks!
K-sport is crap. Megan for the win, between the two. $860 shipped.
http://shop.microimageonline.com/Megan-Racing-coilovers-Yaris-Scion-xD-Prius-C-MEG-MR-CDK-TY07.htm.
Only problem i ever had was my fault for shortening the rear dampers to their max, since adjusting them to longer they have been awesome
helladopebev
08-27-2013, 01:21 PM
Thanks guys I appreciate it! This will be coming together soon 😁
helladopebev
08-27-2013, 01:22 PM
Thank you! :biggrin:
ArkhangelKv
12-04-2013, 11:20 AM
What up People
Question
Yaris Sedan, 17"rims, tires 215/45/17 offset 40
Megan?
Tanabe?
D2?
all of those will lower your car, what are you asking?
ArkhangelKv
12-04-2013, 11:44 AM
all of those will lower your car, what are you asking?
Sorry, Cost , Durability, Pros and Cons of each, personal opinions
cali yaris
12-04-2013, 12:09 PM
Tanabe = 4k front / 3k rear -- best quality, very agreeable ride for a street car, helper spring in front, no damping adjustment.
Megan = 5k front/ 2.5k rear -- 32-way damping adjustability (I think), drops a little lower.
D2 = crap, do not buy.
ArkhangelKv
12-04-2013, 12:20 PM
Tanabe = 4k front / 3k rear -- best quality, very agreeable ride for a street car, helper spring in front, no damping adjustment.
Megan = 5k front/ 2.5k rear -- 32-way damping adjustability (I think), drops a little lower.
D2 = crap, do not buy.
Ok. Going to Coil Overs lol cuz my OverSized Tires Scrape when i hit the slightest bump so was told coil overs, Streets here in PR are Awesofull!! so the i need something that will last
cali yaris
12-04-2013, 12:57 PM
Being able to adjust your damper stiffness may be really helpful in that case. With a stiff damper setting you can help eliminate rubbing and control shock travel.
On my Prius C, I set the rears on stiff with passengers and it helps eliminate the rubbing I'd get on soft setting. Hope that helps.
ArkhangelKv
12-04-2013, 01:17 PM
Being able to adjust your damper stiffness may be really helpful in that case. With a stiff damper setting you can help eliminate rubbing and control shock travel.
On my Prius C, I set the rears on stiff with passengers and it helps eliminate the rubbing I'd get on soft setting. Hope that helps.
a Friend Mentioned the Megans Rust Easily, if so any wat to protect/control that?
I have the Megans, Mine came 6k/3k but the adjustability is unrivaled in that price range. They have a greater ride height range, they have full damper adjustability and offer preload and shock length adjustments as well
G-Ammo
12-04-2013, 02:04 PM
BC Racing ftw!
cali yaris
12-04-2013, 07:14 PM
a Friend Mentioned the Megans Rust Easily, if so any wat to protect/control that?
No more or less than any other Chinese brand, which is what you get in that price range.
vitz rs
02-02-2014, 09:25 AM
Anyone tried Ohlins coilover for their rides?
Any comment?
I do know the Ginetta gt4's over here rode on Ohlins, those things were pretty badass in the rain.
In the dry they lacked power though.....
But yeah, I've heard a lot of good things about Ohlins, JRZ and Moton really. Though Moton nowadays is more like the elite racing branch of AST.
cali yaris
02-02-2014, 12:25 PM
^ Ohlins "lacked power"? :iono:
Ohlins are expensive coilovers, overkill for a street set up, but very good brand.
^ Ohlins "lacked power"? :iono:
Ohlins are expensive coilovers, overkill for a street set up, but very good brand.:bellyroll:
No man, the engine lacked power compared to the rest of the GT4.
Everything else was about 400 hp, the ginetta's ran mondeo v6'es suped to about 300-350
Edit: double post, delete please?
pertness
02-13-2014, 06:03 AM
Need some recommendations on spring rates for my coilovers,
Comes with 5F 3R but I'm thinking of upgrading to maybe 6F 4R or 6F 5 or 6R
Any help would be appreciated thanks! :)
helladopebev
04-19-2014, 06:40 PM
Why do the front megan racing coilovers stick out so much from the shock towers? It's not clearing for putting everything back together 😥
helladopebev
04-19-2014, 06:50 PM
53317 this problem...
cali yaris
04-20-2014, 01:15 PM
I don't think you got that install quite right. They should poke a little with the car on the ground, but that's not correct right there.
dumbo0
04-20-2014, 02:31 PM
Anyone on d2 coils here?
ezhacker1
04-20-2014, 11:08 PM
helladopedev, is the rubber mount placed ontop of the top hat? I see the rubber mount.
Definitely not correct. Did you take the stock bearing out of the stock metal hat? That spacer goes below the bearing iirc so thats out of order as well
You CANNOT follow the Megan instructions they are way wrong!
helladopebev
04-25-2014, 02:19 AM
Definitely not correct. Did you take the stock bearing out of the stock metal hat? That spacer goes below the bearing iirc so thats out of order as well
You CANNOT follow the Megan instructions they are way wrong!
Hahahaha uhhhhh yeah we missed that but figured it out quick. Thanks! Saw your car on ig, lookin good!
helladopebev
04-25-2014, 02:19 AM
I don't think you got that install quite right. They should poke a little with the car on the ground, but that's not correct right there.
Yeah we missed a part haha oooooops
helladopebev
04-25-2014, 02:20 AM
helladopedev, is the rubber mount placed ontop of the top hat? I see the rubber mount.
:) I was just really excited nd forgot a piece 🙊
iceage
04-25-2014, 03:08 AM
Pics please!
mr_miles
04-25-2014, 04:12 AM
I don't think you got that install quite right. They should poke a little with the car on the ground, but that's not correct right there.
naww. Naww.....naww. He got it right :p
I always wondered...what are those spacers for? I couldn't figure it out when i installed my megans.
catliektheif
04-26-2014, 12:59 AM
I too installed megans this weekend. Ran in to a lot of problems but Okay! Update time! I went to a friend who has a dream garage with a lift and everything, disassembled and had another veteran mechanic take a look at what i had. Turned out i needed bumpstops im the rear and had a washer and grommet in the wrong place.
****Most of the problems were places where i made metal on metal contact. ****
Reinstalled everything and she is runnin like a goddam beauty. Smooth as hell. Ive read they are really hard even on the softest setting but to me it feels buttery where i have the rears on all the way hard.. I guess its way better than MI springs on stock shocks :P
The only thing now is in the front there is no clearence to adjust the dampening and the collars on top side of the strut tower sit loose. Normal? There wasnt any noise coming from the fronts even when hitting bumps so im not sure.
I too did not find a place for all the spacers
On the ride home i was sure to hit some twisties and omg, what a world of difference. Absolutely no body roll. It was like the car was flat the whole way round. Totally worth every sweat drop and penny.
Big thank you to phil (1.5), garm, jeff for the help and toyotabuzz for the kit!
Glad to hear you got it all going dude. From the pics you pm'd you still look to have some things in the wrong order but maybe that pm was prior to this post didnt look at the time stamp.
Be careful going full hard i think that may have been partially the cause of me blowing my rear strut almost out of the box.
They are fun though!!!
mr_miles
05-03-2014, 02:15 AM
So long as you don't thread that adjustable part of the rear all the way in, you shouldn't have to worry too much about blowing a shock out. I've been on full hard (lol) for the past year almost and it's all gravy here :D
catliektheif
05-03-2014, 02:16 AM
You mean the nut on the bottom part of the shock right?
ezhacker1
05-04-2014, 02:38 AM
or is saying, dont over adjust, you can break a seal that way, and get shock oil everywhere.
mr_miles
05-04-2014, 04:59 AM
the nut just holds that mount in place. but yeah, that part. lol.
Matt I told you that way back when, everyone gets on me for running my shocks granny long back there but they love it lol
JTGoodridge
05-08-2014, 07:49 PM
I have a question would all of these work on a 99-04 model Yaris?
mr_miles
05-08-2014, 07:59 PM
Matt I told you that way back when, everyone gets on me for running my shocks granny long back there but they love it lol
Lol yeah we learned our lesson after blowing enough of them out :p People get on me too when they see downward travel when I three wheel lol.
FlushYaris
05-13-2014, 03:46 AM
ahaha I had the same problem with that washer!! It needs to go Under the bushing..
Lol yeah we learned our lesson after blowing enough of them out :p People get on me too when they see downward travel when I three wheel lol.
yea lol but we are pro's now lol we know what we're doing
Jerkratt
05-23-2014, 12:55 PM
Anyone on d2 coils here?
I am
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marion2
06-17-2014, 02:37 PM
I am
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How was it? I am also considering BC Racing coilover and I just want to have some feedback if I used these coilover's for daily driving rather than acquiring lowering springs like eibach or espelir? I would also want to try my Yaris Sedan on occasional track days.
Jerkratt
06-19-2014, 02:39 AM
I really like the D2's. Tho they are my first set of coils I've had on a car of my own. With there adjustable height and dampening I can't complain
iceage
07-07-2014, 11:37 PM
is this the proper way to install the megan coilover?
mr_miles
07-08-2014, 01:35 AM
I don't recall that metal spacer going there, Pretty sure it goes directly underneath the top nut so you can tighten it with a regular wrench with everything assembled on a car.
im pretty sure I have the metal spacer on mine
iceage
07-09-2014, 01:37 AM
can someone help me out and let me know how it should exactly look like? thanks
JL512
09-18-2014, 01:27 PM
LUK Schaffer rotors were well priced and have been performing well so far after about 6 months of use. Installed them on my Toyota Yaris and they work just fine, definitely recommend.
JimKellyfan
12-17-2014, 09:39 PM
I thought it might be good to make a definitive thread for Yaris coilovers. This would include what's available and any input people have. Please add to the list if you know of any other available applications.
Here's what's Available:
D2 RS Coilovers
Height adjustable
36-way dampening adjustable
Spring rates: Custom
http://www.d2racing.com
H&R Street-Performance
Height adjustable
Preset dampening
Spring rates: ?????
http://www.hrsprings.com
KW V3 coilover kit
Height-adjustable
14-way dampening adjustable (compression)
Infantile adjustable rebound
Spring rates: ?????
http://www.kw-suspension.com
Tein Basics
Height-adjustable
Preset dampening
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.): 224/174
http://www.tein.com
Tein Super Compacts
Height-adjustable
16-way dampening
Spring Rates (F/R, lbs. ??/??)
http://www.tein.co.jp
Megan Racing
Height-adjustable
32-way dampening adjustable
Optional Pillowball mounts (requires some modification)
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.): 280/336
http://www.meganracing.com
K-Sport
Height-adjustable
36-way dampening adjustable
Front pillowball mounts
Compression/rebound adjustable
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.): 392/140
http://www.ksportusa.com
Cusco Compact-S
Height-adjustable
Preset dampening
Upper pillow ball mounts
Spring rates (F/R, kgs./mm.): 7/3.3
http://www.cuscoracing.com
Cusco Zero-1
Height-adjustable
Pre-set dampning
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.):392/18x (?)
http://www.cuscoracing.com
eBay generic coilover sleeves
Height adjustable, no shocks
http://www.ebay.com
SilkRoad RMA8
Height-adjustable
8 Step Dampening
Spring rates (F/R, kgs/mm): 7/4
http://www.silkroad-usa.com/
HKS S-Compact
Height-adjustable
30-way adjustable
Pillowball fronts
Spring rates (F/R, lbs./In.): 280/448
http://www.hks-usa.com or www.hks-power.co.jp
C-One Sports Suspension Kit
Non-height adjustable (spring/shock kit)
Adjustable dampening
Spring rates (F/R, kgs/mm): 3.8/2.6
http://www.c-one.co.jp
SO, WHAT ARE THE BEST LESS THAN 1K COILOVERS ?
I think I bent my left front strut from a severe turn last week....I can call the car Irene or Ilene now.:headbang:
If afraid to comment on best, I drive all street, but typically drive it like I stole it, and occasionally carry some weight. Haven't towed with it yet, but if I do, will be light stuff, less than 500 pounds.
ilikerice
12-18-2014, 05:25 AM
Been running Megan's for 4 years now. Autocross every month and a couple track day events a year. Still running strong.
YarisPR
12-31-2014, 10:40 AM
I've blown 2 megan coilovers (right rear twice) ��
I've even stop using the car on daily basis so I can get tomthe track with my 4 coilovers intact ��
I think I need some pics of your installed coilovers, I must be doing something wrong
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