What Oil do you guys recomend/Use ?

[pp.sweet]

1)Mobil one..
2) Castro sync
3) Amsiol

Add to the poll..any your favorites..and tell us why you use it..
thanks..

[ttufrosty]

Mobil1 5w-20

[r300f28]

Amsiol 5-30. Using it since 1979. There is no substitute! End of conversation.

[YamilR]

Royal Purple 5w-30

[staticorex]

Any of the oils listed above are excellent. But I use M1.

[kwb1959]

Amsoil 5W30

[Shroomster]

mobil1 5w20 in both cars....saves on confusion

[gonzo452001]

Mobil 1 used it for years my engines never seem to use any oil one had 189,000miles on it

[joe keeney]

G T X 5_ 30

[WolfWings]

Amsoil whenever I can, if in a pinch on a road-trip I'll grab some Mobil-1.

But Amsoil first and foremost.

[Black Yaris]

AMSoil 0w30

[pp.sweet]

I've used Mobil 1 since 1982 in my Celica GT..
Yo Black..AmSoil..where would you buy that I've never hear of that brand before ??

[Black Yaris]

http://www.amsoil.com/
they are THE best synthetic oil company

[oilman930]

Motul 8100 Eco-nergy 5W-30
100% Synthetic

[Klink10]

Amsoil 5W-30

[nsmitchell]

If Amsoil was available in some kind of store, I would use more of it. I've seen it in some towns sold in shops and stores, but not around here.

[PolarWhite]

Being in the automotive lubrication business for many years now, I can tell you that it doesn't REALLY matter what oil you use. The ONLY important thing is that you actually DO change your oil regularly. I have seen Dodge pickups run over 300,000 miles on Quaker State 30W. That is not an oil I would use personally, but you can't argue with results. Changing the oil is much more important than what brand of oil you use when you change it.

That said, I use only Valvoline motor oils in all my vehicles. Period.

[sherryberry]

The current oil in my car right now is Mobil 1 but i've used Amsoil before.. they've also got that 1 year or .. however many miles (i forget) filter and oil.

[YarisTom73]

Being in the automotive lubrication business for many years now, I can tell you that it doesn't REALLY matter what oil you use. The ONLY important thing is that you actually DO change your oil regularly. I have seen Dodge pickups run over 300,000 miles on Quaker State 30W. That is not an oil I would use personally, but you can't argue with results. Changing the oil is much more important than what brand of oil you use when you change it.

That said, I use only Valvoline motor oils in all my vehicles. Period.

I'll second that motion; it's the neglect that really kills a vehicle. Plus, we know synthetics are better than conventional. Therefore, I change mine with Mobil 1 every five thousand miles, and the other car gets Pennzoil synthetic at the same interval. Both run like a champ!

[static808]

Being in the automotive lubrication business for many years now, I can tell you that it doesn't REALLY matter what oil you use. The ONLY important thing is that you actually DO change your oil regularly.

+1

5K with dino, 7.5K and up with most synths. another thing people always forget to maintain is tire pressure. if you want good mpg and to avoid a blowout on the highway, check them bad boys every week...

--B

[pp.sweet]

Good information for all yardee owners :clap: :thumbsup:

[bearda]

Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20. I bought a couple of cases of it for my Mazda3 and have been using it in the wife's Yaris ever since I saw the 5W-20 TSB.

[Black Yaris]

I still say 0w30 FTW for those who drive hard....

[pp.sweet]

Pennzoil Platinum 5W-20. I bought a couple of cases of it for my Mazda3 and have been using it in the wife's Yaris ever since I saw the 5W-20 TSB.


My brother swears buy this stuff..this is the "Only" oil he'll put in his Mercedes.

[bearda]

My brother swears buy this stuff..this is the "Only" oil he'll put in his Mercedes.

All the UOAs seem to say that's it's a pretty good oil. I'm not going to lie to anybody and say that it's the best oil out there, though. It is pretty cheap, especially with BOGO deals popping up fairly often.

For me it seems to strike a nice balance between performance and price, but I wouldn't say a word against anyone running Torco, Amsoil, or any other premium oil. Once you get past the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel brands they're all decent oil, it all comes down to preference and how much value you put on that extra little piece of mind.

[pp.sweet]

So So true..nuff said..

[YANGSTER]

Amsoil 5W-30

[1stToyota]

Eneos 5w30 in my Yaris

"No. 1 in JAPAN" FTW :smile:

[ChinoCharles]

Royal Purple 5W-30

[pinoypizzaboy]

i just tried amsoil 0w-30 and amsoil filter good stuff. i think 0-30 is too thin for las vegas weather so im getting 5-30 next

[Klink10]

Amsoil 5w-30 XL.....cause i'm a dealer.

[PHXDEMON]

I like to run mobil1. Currently running valvoline full synthetic (came free with the car). Any Full synthetic oil is good IMO.

[Split]

is running amsoil 0w-20 okay or is it too thin?

[YarisSedan]

+1

5K with dino, 7.5K and up with most synths. another thing people always forget to maintain is tire pressure. if you want good mpg and to avoid a blowout on the highway, check them bad boys every week...

--B

I would never do 5k with dino. Unless maybe its a very high quality dino oil. Most poeple reccomend 3k because after that you start to really get sludge buildup. Especially if you get your oil changed at any quick oil change place. They all use bulk oil which is the lowest grade recycled oil.

Oh yeah btw I use either 5w-20 amsoil and when its not available i use royal purple

[gid]

PENNZOIL Platinum ( synthetic ) 5w-30 in '08 Liftback and the PLATINUM 5w-20 in the '08 sedan . Can get the PLATINUM for less than $4 a quart when on sale ( A.A.P. or PEPBOYS ) or at WALLYMART in a 5 quart jug for less than $20 .

[gid]

is running amsoil 0w-20 okay or is it too thin? in the T.S.B. by TOYOTA says 5w-20 only , not 0w-20 . Here's the T.S.B. number , TS-EG018-06 ( the last 2 digits are the year T.S.B. was / is released ) . Got the TOYOTA service department where the '08 YARIS sedan was purchased to e-mail the T.S.B. as confirmation and saved the T.S.B. ( copied from P.C. ) in case of warranty issues with the use of the 5w-20 , says 5w-30 on oil cap and in owners manual . Best to be safe than sorry .

[anonymous user]

I like Eneos. 5w-30. I'll be switching over all my cars from Redline soon.
Probably still use M1 in the yaris, but i'll try it out and see.

[BailOut]

I would never do 5k with dino.
An entire fleet of Toyota engineers, quality testers, risk analysts and lawyers wholeheartedly disagree with you as their recommendation is 5k miles. Anything more often is a waste of money and resources.

Back on topic: I run Mobil1 5W-20 EP synthetic and a K&N Gold oil filter for the 15k mile drain interval.

[TheSilkySmooth]

An entire fleet of Toyota engineers, quality testers, risk analysts and lawyers wholeheartedly disagree with you as their recommendation is 5k miles. Anything more often is a waste of money and resources.

My brother showed me pictures of cars that have oil changed at like 5 to 7 thousand and the engines are covered with a black or tan like tar inside? This cant be good, right? Teh car has like vtec right?:frown:

[KCALB SIRAY]

My brother showed me pictures of cars that have oil changed at like 5 to 7 thousand and the engines are covered with a black or tan like tar inside? This cant be good, right? Teh car has like vtec right?:frown:

That would be sludge. Bad I tell you, very bad!

[TheSilkySmooth]

So I use aimsol for no slug? You buy this from a friend, Does it cost too much?

[1stToyota]

An entire fleet of Toyota engineers, quality testers, risk analysts and lawyers wholeheartedly disagree with you as their recommendation is 5k miles. Anything more often is a waste of money and resources.

Back on topic: I run Mobil1 5W-20 EP synthetic and a K&N Gold oil filter for the 15k mile drain interval.

Agreed. Today's 5k OCI is yesterday's 3k OCI...oils have improved along with improved engine design.

[firemachine69]

Any SM-rated 5w-30. Currently on Motomaster Formula 1 (blended by Shell for Canadian Tire IIRC) dino for rated five-to-six-month intervals. I don't clock enough mileage to change it out beforehand.

[sanityassassinv2]

Are there any national auto parts stores that sell oil like Amsoil or Royal Purple or do I have to order the stuff online? I am coming up on my first oil change and want to make the switch but haven't seen any of this good oil that you guys are using in any local stores.

[gid]

go here to find local supplier for AMSOIL , www.amsoil.com/dealerlocatorresults/ .

[pinoypizzaboy]

amsoil 0-30 wouldnt really hurt my motor right? or should i switch it right away to 5-30. i have 500 miles on 0-30 and my car has 20k mi

[bdc87]

Royal Purple 5-20.

[TheSilkySmooth]

My brother says that like bay-4 motorsports has good oil for motorcycle and this should be better for car then even the S&M. I dont go to bike stores they bother me too much and I have to leave:frown:

[SilverGlow]

Why does the poll show only two choices?

Do this: Pick the "worse" and cheapest synthetic oil on the market that has the current API ratings (SM). Use that oil and your car will last no less long as if you had used AMSOIL or Mobil1 or any of the other brands.

People say this oil is great or that oil is great but how do they know? They like the purple color? They think paying a premium means longer lasting car? How many of these people actually send a used oil sample to a testing lab like BlackStone for thorough analysis? Yet the ones that don't have their used oil analyzed will push their brand of choice hard. Lots of hearsay, lots of parroting the claims of others.

Me? I use the cheapest on-sale full synthetic and don't have the dillusion that one is much better the the other. I've seen the UOA's (used oil analysis) at BobIsTheOilGuy dot com and I'm convinced that as long as (1) the oil has the latest ratings (2) is synthetic, (3) correct viscosity and (4) mated with a decent filter, your car will last 300,000+ miles regardless of brand.

Please guys lets not turn motor oil into a religion filled with passion and fervor ;-)

[SilverGlow]

in the T.S.B. by TOYOTA says 5w-20 only , not 0w-20 . Here's the T.S.B. number , TS-EG018-06 ( the last 2 digits are the year T.S.B. was / is released ) . Got the TOYOTA service department where the '08 YARIS sedan was purchased to e-mail the T.S.B. as confirmation and saved the T.S.B. ( copied from P.C. ) in case of warranty issues with the use of the 5w-20 , says 5w-30 on oil cap and in owners manual . Best to be safe than sorry .


If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.

[1stToyota]

If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.

The way I heard it explained from an expert was that the wider the viscosity the more polymers are needed and the harder it is for the molecules to stretch...something like that...under stress and heat the 5w-30 performs better.

[TheSilkySmooth]

If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.
Not exactly correct engine lubricant may not get to designated operational temp and viscosity of the 0W will be much less than the 5W at say 75 celcius. I am Chemist!
Make Love not Bombs! I see TSB b4 it states NO 020!

[gid]

If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other. says not to . Only for CAMRY , etc.. If you want to risk it , then go for it .

[SilverGlow]

Not exactly correct engine lubricant may not get to designated operational temp and viscosity of the 0W will be much less than the 5W at say 75 celcius. I am Chemist!
Make Love not Bombs! I see TSB b4 it states NO 020!

If you're a chemist then you should know better....the 20 in 0W-20 and 5W-20 provide the same protection at full operating temperature (around 212 degrees F).

It is the first number, the 0 in 0W-20 that is thinner at cold temperatures then 5W.

And Gid yes you are correct, the Yaris engine is not TSB'd for 0w, but rather for 5W-20. However I do use 0w because the UOA reports I've seen from other Yaris owners show the same wear metals as those that used 5W-20.

[SilverGlow]

The way I heard it explained from an expert was that the wider the viscosity the more polymers are needed and the harder it is for the molecules to stretch...something like that...under stress and heat the 5w-30 performs better.

Not according to Toyota engineeers....thiner means better circulation and faster....

[gid]

I seen a T.V. commercial for VALVOLINE " SYNPOWER " that it gives 4 times better protection to your engine than MOBIL 1 . True ? :iono:

[1stToyota]

Not according to Toyota engineeers....thiner means better circulation and faster....

You missed the part about the extra snake oil polymers that are required to get the wider viscosity rating and how they react under stress and heat, besides, owner's manual states 5w30 not 0w30 for the Yaris

[SilverGlow]

You missed the part about the extra snake oil polymers that are required to get the wider viscosity rating and how they react under stress and heat, besides, owner's manual states 5w30 not 0w30 for the Yaris

Your friend is not the "expert" you thought ;-)

This is because Amsoil and Mobil1 and all the others disagree with him. You see, Amsoil is the best and it makes 0W-20 and 0w-30 and tens of thousands of cars using it are not failing. In addition, UOA for those oils shows very, very low wear...so much for the "molecues cannot stretch" comment. :laugh:

I would suggest we all pay a visit to BobIsTheOilGuy.com and read the forums on oil there....a lot of superstitions will die if you do...at least they did for me.

[1stToyota]

Your friend is not the "expert" you thought ;-)

This is because Amsoil and Mobil1 and all the others disagree with him. You see, Amsoil is the best and it makes 0W-20 and 0w-30 and tens of thousands of cars using it are not failing. In addition, UOA for those oils shows very, very low wear...so much for the "molecues cannot stretch" comment. :laugh:

I would suggest we all pay a visit to BobIsTheOilGuy.com and read the forums on oil there....a lot of superstitions will die if you do...at least they did for me.

You can start by reading your manual and your oil cap (5w30 only) and your Toyota TSBs, and then you can finish off by stepping into the LS2 and GTO forums to inform the regs that you think SgtGeek doesn't know about motor oils and UOAs :bellyroll:

[TheSilkySmooth]

Your friend is not the "expert" you thought ;-)

This is because Amsoil and Mobil1 and all the others disagree with him. You see, Amsoil is the best and it makes 0W-20 and 0w-30 and tens of thousands of cars using it are not failing. In addition, UOA for those oils shows very, very low wear...so much for the "molecues cannot stretch" comment. :laugh:

I would suggest we all pay a visit to BobIsTheOilGuy.com and read the forums on oil there....a lot of superstitions will die if you do...at least they did for me.
I am sorry you did not read or understand the email I left. What is viscosity of 0w at 50C and 75 C you will see it is much less than the 5W. The engine oil may not run at 100c. You are not a chemist. An who is bob the oil guy - like bill nye the science guy I see on tv? You will not get correct information with proper scientific method on this a chat forum. I see chest beating like religious fanatics whcih is a dangerous person:frown:

[TheSilkySmooth]

If you're a chemist then you should know better....the 20 in 0W-20 and 5W-20 provide the same protection at full operating temperature (around 212 degrees F).

It is the first number, the 0 in 0W-20 that is thinner at cold temperatures then 5W.

And Gid yes you are correct, the Yaris engine is not TSB'd for 0w, but rather for 5W-20. However I do use 0w because the UOA reports I've seen from other Yaris owners show the same wear metals as those that used 5W-20. You are dangerouse person with a little knowledge to be bad, but not enough education to make interpolation. You may have to study some more - This Bob OIly Guy is no Koran!

[1stToyota]

I'm convinced that as long as (1) the oil has the latest ratings (2) is synthetic, (3) correct viscosity and (4) mated with a decent filter, your car will last 300,000+ miles

...you claim that 5w20 is "TSB'd" :iono: for the Yaris (you're thinking Scion XD?), and you wrote that you use 0w (wouldn't matter if a 20 or 30 followed because my Yaris owner's states 5w30 only)...so, to follow your rule number (3) start using the "correct viscosity" if you're still expecting to see that 300k miles on your motor. :wink:

[gid]

there is an Technical Service Bulletin by TOYOTA giving the o.k. for 5w-20 in '06 and beyond . Got the T.S.B. sent via e-mail from the assistant manager of service department where we bought the '08 YARIS sedan , made copy of it and put with our paperwork . We're using PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 in it for this stretch , haven't decided to continue it's use . So , call your TOYOTA service center for verification of T.S.B. in their computer system , number is EG018-06 .

[TheRealEnth]

Guys Guys....... Its just oil =D! Lets just list the best 5 and be done with it

[1stToyota]

there is an Technical Service Bulletin by TOYOTA giving the o.k. for 5w-20 in '06 and beyond . Got the T.S.B. sent via e-mail from the assistant manager of service department where we bought the '08 YARIS sedan , made copy of it and put with our paperwork . We're using PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 in it for this stretch , haven't decided to continue it's use . So , call your TOYOTA service center for verification of T.S.B. in their computer system , number is EG018-06 .

I looked at the TSB on NapaFix, 5w-20 is listed for Toyota and Scion, 0w-20 is listed for the 2AZ-FE engine, not the Yaris 1NZ-FE engine...their *note* at the start of the article seems kind of confusing though:

Quote: "The recommended viscosity grade for this oil differs according to vehicle model. Use the recommended grade specified on the oil filler cap or in the Repair Manual or Owner’s Manual for each vehicle."

[bubaa]

iam gonna try the greddy 5w-30 on my 4age 20v blacktop to see how it works if i like the ayri will have it too

[SilverGlow]

...you claim that 5w20 is "TSB'd" :iono: for the Yaris (you're thinking Scion XD?), and you wrote that you use 0w (wouldn't matter if a 20 or 30 followed because my Yaris owner's states 5w30 only)...so, to follow your rule number (3) start using the "correct viscosity" if you're still expecting to see that 300k miles on your motor. :wink:

You're confused, but that's okay. I do follow my rules. The TSB shows 20 weight for our engines, and I use 20 weight, and the UOA's show less wear then if I used 30 weight. Sure, the filler cap shows 30 weight, BUT the TSB which came out later says otherwise. I'm sticking with the TSB. As to 0W weight, I use that because at full operational temperature 0w-20 and 5w-20 protect exactly the same; hence the 20 part of those grades. The 0w on cold mornings flows to the upper parts of thje engine faster and gets to more parts of the internals faster.

[gid]

I looked at the TSB on NapaFix, 5w-20 is listed for Toyota and Scion, 0w-20 is listed for the 2AZ-FE engine, not the Yaris 1NZ-FE engine...their *note* at the start of the article seems kind of confusing though:

Quote: "The recommended viscosity grade for this oil differs according to vehicle model. Use the recommended grade specified on the oil filler cap or in the Repair Manual or Owner’s Manual for each vehicle." :rolleyes: .

[1stToyota]

You're confused, but that's okay. I do follow my rules. The TSB shows 20 weight for our engines, and I use 20 weight, and the UOA's show less wear then if I used 30 weight. Sure, the filler cap shows 30 weight, BUT the TSB which came out later says otherwise. I'm sticking with the TSB. As to 0W weight, I use that because at full operational temperature 0w-20 and 5w-20 protect exactly the same; hence the 20 part of those grades. The 0w on cold mornings flows to the upper parts of thje engine faster and gets to more parts of the internals faster.

It's okay that you're too dense to read...the TSB *notes* the 0w-20 is for the 2AZ-FE engine, not the Yaris 1NZ-FE engine...you did a XD motor swap in your Yaris?! :w00t:

And if you live in CA why worry about those "cold mornings flows"...besides, in that TSB that you're swearing by, take note of the note @ the top of the page:

"The recommended viscosity grade for this oil differs according to vehicle model. Use the recommended grade specified on the oil filler cap or in the Repair Manual or Owner’s Manual for each vehicle."

:clap:

[1stToyota]

:rolleyes: .

Sorry. When I wrote 5w-20 I was actually in agreement with you. The 0w-20 statement from the TSB was for those that might be confused into thinking that what goes for the XD engine somehow goes for the Yaris engine.

:slice:

[ztrack157]

I personally run 5-30 Royal Triton (Purple). But I was just wondering is anyone using Redline Oils here? Mobil One, Ams, and Rp are three of the best you can get any of them and it would be a wise choice. Ams just makes some interesting blends some that last as long as 25,000 miles so essentially a once a year change for most.

[gid]

Sorry. When I wrote 5w-20 I was actually in agreement with you. The 0w-20 statement from the TSB was for those that might be confused into thinking that what goes for the XD engine somehow goes for the Yaris engine.

:slice: very seldom do I have someone agree in this place :wink: .

[bobby]

I think generally we think too much about the oil in the car. How would anybody REALLY know which oil is better than another? Are you analyzing the engine parts at a lab?? Seems silly to me.

I truly believe that if you use a name-brand oil with the recommended weight (5-20, 5-30, or whatever) and change your oil & filter frequently (every 3,000 miles or 5,000) your engine will last and last and last. The trick to longevity is keeping the engine oil clean, by frequently flushing it out with new, clean, oil. Beyond that, I have no idea how one would determine which oil works better.

[TheSilkySmooth]

You just want quiet, smooth engine reasonable economy, service life and not varnish. The Varnish will break loose at the oil changeout period and can get into small places and cause problems. Sales staff say our car has Life time "chain tensioner" and hydraulic cam phasing so this parts do not suffer varnish floating around without problem. My Family had Mazda v6 which tensioner alway is failing due to dirty oil and so to my brothers motorcycle. He had to switch to superior AECA formulation from inferior ILSAC SM specification N.A. gunk. Sorry I digress ...So, the wider the Viscosity Index the less optimal the oil will be for long life and varnish creation (cause by oxidisation of polymeric additives). So even in Ethylene gas synthesized - 0W30 worse than 10W30 and 0W20 (cause of tighter VI) better than 0w30 if engine expressly designed for the base oil weight. Yaris 1dot5 litre is not designed for 0W base oil and will have shortened service interval in this suboptimal application. Sorry Gentlemen - I try to act like dumb skirt so people will not hate me and like me but i have to throw down the gauntlet now seeing so much misinformation on this forum. Sorry to say API oil "sucks" All of it.

[gid]

we're using synthetic because it tames the engine noise and do many short trips. Someday may switch to a syn-blend and then to conventional oil again .

[battleversiontc]

i run greddy gr3 5w 30 with some lucas oil additive and she runs smooth

[TheSilkySmooth]

My dad says:

Try CD oil detergent with extreme pressure-wear additives available at the local auto-parts store is very good to get API oil perform almost like AECA A3 B3? Except Viscosity will be less for economy. Will make almost to Porsche spec

-S

[gid]

if using an 5w-20 , I read it's best to use one that's rated ACEA A_ and B1 or greater . The PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 we're using is only rated A1-02 , while the PLATINUM 5w-30 is also B1 and B5 . I believe MOBIL 1 5w-20 has a B rating , as for other manufacturers :iono: . Would have to do some searching on the web or in the store . May go to another 5w-20 synthetic that has the B rating . The ratings are printed on the label on back of the oil bottle .

[1stToyota]

if using an 5w-20 , I read it's best to use one that's rated ACEA A_ and B1 or greater . The PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-20 we're using is only rated A1-02 , while the PLATINUM 5w-30 is also B1 and B5 . I believe MOBIL 1 5w-20 has a B rating , as for other manufacturers :iono: . Would have to do some searching on the web or in the store . May go to another 5w-20 synthetic that has the B rating . The ratings are printed on the label on back of the oil bottle .

Have you researched Amsoil yet? I'm considering switching to Amsoil with my next oil change. I can get Amsoil's HP 5w30 for nearly the exact same price that I'm now paying for Eneos.

[gid]

I would use AMSOIL or REDLINE if they were cheaper . PENNZOIL Platinum gets very good U.O.A.s ( used oil analysis ) at www.bobistheoilguy.com ( look under Used Oil Analysis - Gas ) , plus it's fairly cheap . I've picked up the PLATINUM for less than $3 a quart in the past .

[TheSilkySmooth]

I would use AMSOIL or REDLINE if they were cheaper . PENNZOIL Platinum gets very good U.O.A.s ( used oil analysis ) at www.bobistheoilguy.com , plus it's fairly cheap . I've picked up the PLATINUM for less than $3 a quart in the past . HI Mr. GID: Do you get the high mileage with your platinum oil too? Is the Power good? How do you drive hard or easy? This may be a good deal:smile:

[Benggolf2]

When it will be time for my first oil change, I'll be using Mobil 1 5W-20.
Been using Mobil 1 for many, many years and never had any engine problems; besides our C55AMG and C350 uses Mobil 1 too. :wink:

[gid]

HI Mr. GID: Do you get the high mileage with your platinum oil too? Is the Power good? How do you drive hard or easy? This may be a good deal:smile: with the PLATINUM 5w-30 the power is good , been averaging close to 39 miles per gallon since last NOVEMBER , and it tames the engine noise . Using REDLINE MT-90 true synthetic gear oil as well for the '08 5 speed liftback . This car was used for delivery route once a week for about 8 months as well , so quite extreme driving . One time the car got 42 m.p.g. while doing the route , other times 40 or little less ( some of that included 4 studded tires ). The route was 100+ miles , 4 hours long , around 400 stops , many steep hills , and 2 people . There's usually 2 of us in the car since the purchase . The '08 automatic sedan has the PLATINUM 5w-20 and got 40.03 miles per gallon on a test drive after 4 studded tires were put on ( see post under FUEL ECONOMY FORUM ) . That car has overall average of 39 miles per gallon as well , right on par with the stick shift :thumbsup: . We'll have to wait and see how the colder weather affects it .

[1stToyota]

I would use AMSOIL or REDLINE if they were cheaper . PENNZOIL Platinum gets very good U.O.A.s ( used oil analysis ) at www.bobistheoilguy.com ( look under Used Oil Analysis - Gas ) , plus it's fairly cheap . I've picked up the PLATINUM for less than $3 a quart in the past .

Amsoil's XL5w20 has the A1/B1 rating, and a friend offered to get me some for a discounted price of $5.65 per qt, but I'm thinking of staying with 5w30 and bumping up to their mid-priced HP series for $6.95 each (it has a A5/B5-04 rating) ...the HP5w20 ratings should be pretty close to those same ratings, I assume. And agreed on the Pennzoil Platinum UOA's...the oil expert (SgtGeek) that I made mention of earlier stated that their results were some of the best he sees.

[gid]

I'd go with the XL 5w-20 at that price . The U.O.A.s for XL are very impressive at B.I.T.O.G.. Decisions , decisions :confused: .

[1stToyota]

I'd go with the XL 5w-20 at that price . The U.O.A.s for XL are very impressive at B.I.T.O.G.. Decisions , decisions :confused: .

I'm getting a special price, not sure what the real list price would be. Probably $7.50 for XL and $9.00 for the HP...

[gid]

just went from PENNZOIL Platinum 5w-30 > Platinum 5w-20 for the '08 Liftback at 13,400 miles . Took little less than 3 and a 1/2 quarts to bring to FULL mark . The new TOYOTA ( Denso ) 90915-YZZF2 oil filter soaked up close to 5 ounces of the oil needed for the change . May go with the MOBIL 1 E.P. 5w-20 or give a few calls to local auto parts stores to see if any AMSOIL XL 5w-20 is available and the cost per quart . This wouild be for the '08 sedan due for oil change next month , currently PLATINUM 5w-20 .

[staypuft]

running royal purple 5w30, feels so much better than mobil 1