Tanabe Concept G Exhaust Installed

[Toddhata]

Yesterday Tabane installed the Concept G Exhaust on my liftback, looks so much better than stock. The sound is really good, not too loud, under 93db. They did a dyno and said it gained 3.1hp at the wheels. Should be available soon for the Yaris, now that they know it fits.

Here's some pics

http://www.toddhata.com/cars/images/IMGP2426a.jpg


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http://www.toddhata.com/cars/images/IMGP2430a.jpg


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Here's a link to the product on Tanabe's website:
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/exhausts/conceptg.asp

[fnkngrv]

That is sweet....any word on cost?:headbang: :thumbup: :clap: :w00t:

[MWill517]

Looking good!:thumbsup:

Wondering if the Sedan exhaust is routed the same as the Hatch?
I can only assume it would be.

[redglare45]

Looking good!:thumbsup:

Wondering if the Sedan exhaust is routed the same as the Hatch?
I can only assume it would be.


Yeah, I also wonder the samething. Was it cat-back or just the exhaust.
Looks GREAT!!! :bow:

I want one NOW!!! :cry:

[HanSel]

wow that things awesome!
is that the axleback or a catback?

ive been researching Tanabe for a while..theyre popular with the STi folk..:thumbup: :coolpics:

[Ran Kizama]

Everytime I think of Tanabe, I think of the Medallion Exhaust for the RSX that actually made the car lose 1HP. :laugh:

[Chris07LB]

Describe the sound please.. :clap:

[Toddhata]

Tanabe says it is just going to be sold as Axle Back, and it's a very easy installation. Not sure on cost yet, or differences with the liftback and sedan. I'm sure they'll post info when they know more details.

The sound is very good, nice low rumble at low rpms, good sound at 80mph. At low idle you can barely tell it's there, until you hit the gas.

[HanSel]

there around some sound clips on their website with different cars and engines..
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/soundclips.asp

[Chris07LB]

there around some sound clips on their website with different cars and engines..
http://www.tanabe-usa.com/soundclips.asp

Im guessing Todd's car sounds most like the Scion xB on their site? :iono:

I just dont want a "ricey" weedwacker tone, but after listening to them, they sound nothing like that! :drool:

Now if it wasn't so, "in your face" looking.. Wish it was a little better hidden behind the bumper.

[Toddhata]

Probably most like the Scion Xb, although it's hard to tell exactly with these laptop speakers.

It's not ricey at all, but not as deep and throaty sounding as my boxster's stock exhaust.

If anyone wants to check it out in person let me know, although I've only seen a handful of Yaris in the So Cal area.

[C2AUTOSPL]

THis will be available very soon to your guys.

[redglare45]

THis will be available very soon to your guys.


Nice! I would definitely want in on this :thumbsup:

[HanSel]

maybe i could check it out sometime. my parents live in carson.. pedro is super close.

[eight_heads]

i'd like one...

[Chris07LB]

I smell Group Buy! :thumbsup:

[fnkngrv]

I really like the sound...when it comes to changing out only the muffler without it being a catback or even with a different header I think that it has a nice low tone...plus I really prefer a muffler that is close to silent when just sitting idle. depending on price I very well might be in.

[ChinoCharles]

Excuse me for being semi car retarded, but axel-back as opposed to cat-back just means that this kit wont come with a cat, right? I'm assuming you can just buy a cat with the same piping diameter and slap it in there and be fine.

[Chris07LB]

THis will be available very soon to your guys.


I smell Group Buy! :thumbup:

[rstb88]

please explain the axleback concept. and is this going to be emissions legal?

[johnnyfive]

it will be emisions legal, and it is just a muffler changeout, a cat-back system replaces all of the piping from the backside of the cat, and leaves the factory cat intact

[ChinoCharles]

Well in that case 3 hp for a muffler is pretty freekin good. I'll take one, haha.

[HanSel]

yea i agree. 3hp for just an axleback is really good. now if you wanted to go hardcore and change out the the rest of the system, youd probably yield a lot whole lot more..

[tca4]

record your own video and sound! !! =)~!

[Chris07LB]

record your own video and sound! !! =)~!


YES!!!! We ALL wanna hear it!! :thumbup:

[redglare45]

Yeah, that would be really sweet if you could get a sound clip.

[heylookitsjames]

From the looks of it, If you want a Cat-back system for the yaris, you will need to break out the tube saw and break some emissions laws (at least in CA) as the piping is not bolted to the car, it is one seamless pipe running all the way back to the axle, where the muffler is bolted on with about 2 feet of piping.

[Toddhata]

ok, since there's 3 requests in a row I'll break out the video camera and make a clip, may take me a few days to find the time, but I'll get something posted soon.

[eight_heads]

i agree with a group buy... count me in

[ChinoCharles]

From the looks of it, If you want a Cat-back system for the yaris, you will need to break out the tube saw and break some emissions laws (at least in CA) as the piping is not bolted to the car, it is one seamless pipe running all the way back to the axle, where the muffler is bolted on with about 2 feet of piping.

So wait, we will never see a bolt-on cat back system for a Yaris?! What the hell! What does the alternative consist of... some tubing, a free-flowing catalytic converter and one of your buddies who happens to be a proficient welder? Or is it not so easy.

[Toddhata]

Ok, here's a clip from inside the car with the windows open.

http://www.toddhata.com/cars/images/tanabe.wmv


I took some video from outside the car but this damn humidity screwed up the video camera, gotta clean the heads now. I'll try again another time, but this gives you an idea of the sound.

How does the clip sound on real speakers? I just have my laptop and it doesn't sound anywhere close to the real thing, give me some feedback of sound quality.

[ChinoCharles]

Hahahahahahahaha! :cool:

That sounds like one bad-ass Yaris. Man oh man, I can't wait to get one of these.

Sound quality is good. I've got a desktop with Harman Kardons. Don't kill yourself trying to get better.

[eight_heads]

can i have one now?.... please...

[JustAnotherAsian]

rasp is something that can be amplified through mediocre vid quality paired with laptop speakers (which practically amplifies high pitched noises by not letting low frequencies come through)...

whatever?

in other words, if there was rasp at all, it would've been amplified and we would've heard it. and by listening to it... it sounds friggin great.

good choice in exhaust setup. i may not be a fan of the looks (i'd just tuck it in more), but it sounds top-notch and it proven to give more power... 3 hp is a lot for an axle-back on 100 hp engines!

[bulldogs2k]

sounds good! i had tanabe h. medalions on my s2000 and they sounded great. I took it off though, attracted the cops.
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[Chris07LB]

Sound great Todd! :thumbup:

just wish there was a way to hide it.. maybe a rear add-on is in the cards. :evil:

[redglare45]

Thanks for the clip Todd. Sounds great! :thumbsup:

[fnkngrv]

Sounds Saweet!:headbang: :thumbup: :bow: :drinking: :burnrubber:

[C2AUTOSPL]

So wait, we will never see a bolt-on cat back system for a Yaris?! What the hell! What does the alternative consist of... some tubing, a free-flowing catalytic converter and one of your buddies who happens to be a proficient welder? Or is it not so easy.

The pipe from the axle back going to the cat is freaking long(for a small car). Megan Racing is also going to be producing products for the Yaris since they got one themselves. It'll be an axle-back, header, not sure what else.

Just letting you guys know.

HOpefully, Tanabe exhausts shows up next month.

[HanSel]

that thing sounds sweet! any idea when itlll be released?!

[Ran Kizama]

Any sound clips from outside the car? I'd hate for it to be like my friend's Sentra. Deep and throaty on the inside, but rather raspy on the outside. Care to get an outside clip for us?

[Toddhata]

ok, I'll try it again and post an outside clip shortly.

[Ran Kizama]

ok, I'll try it again and post an outside clip shortly.Sorry for the hassle. I, as well as others I'm sure, really appreciate your time! :thumbsup:

[Chaad32]

That sound great......Got to get me one of those

[Toddhata]

Here's a clip from outside, hitting the gas pretty hard on each run.

LINK (http://www.toddhata.com/cars/images/yaris_outside.wmv)

Sounds louder than I expected outside, sounds like the car is going a lot faster than it is.

[Chris07LB]

Here's a clip from outside, hitting the gas pretty hard on each run.

LINK (http://www.toddhata.com/cars/images/yaris_outside.wmv)

Sounds louder than I expected outside, sounds like the car is going a lot faster than it is.

Again, IM SOLD! :biggrin:

[boxerboy]

I like the sound, but I dislike cars that sound like they are moving fast, but are not going fast. Do you know what I mean?

[SimmZ]

I'm not sure I like the sound... it doesn't sound that deep and loud. It have some kind of accute sound depending on RPM.

Do more video please... outside... and a real acceleration. I mean... from idle to redline on 1...2...3...gear. Even if you car is automatic! :wink:

[Slummy]

Man that sounds really good!
I'm putting down a depost on a black sand pearl LB on wed.
Now i know what kind of exhast to get, thanks!

[bigsky2]

Toddhata,

Are you running an intake on that bad boy or no?

[Toddhata]

Toddhata,

Are you running an intake on that bad boy or no?


No intake yet, probably put one in sometime soon.

[SimmZ]

Any update on the official price of this axle-back?

[C2AUTOSPL]

Any update on the official price of this axle-back?

MSRP is $380.00, PM me for better pricing. RIghtnow, Tanabe has the Medalion TOuring available. We have this axle back instock.

HEre's a pic
http://c2auto.com/images/8-28-06_010_copy.jpg

[Scotty]

I don't think it sounds too bad, plus it is hard to tell with speakers. If only it looked like the Medalion Touring...

[SimmZ]

I don't think it sounds too bad, plus it is hard to tell with speakers. If only it looked like the Medalion Touring...

Yup... look is an important factor for stay away from the cops. Sleeper style is the real way to go. If your exhaust look like a big fart can, you'll be the first to be spotted by the cops. :frown:

Some years ago (in 2002), I got a bad 150$ exhaust ticket from the cops even if my exhaust was VERY VERY quiet (almost quiet like OE), but I had a 4.5" huge chrome tip! That's the problem. After that ticket, I begin to use real sleeper muffler, like dual 2.5" tips muffler... even if these exhausts were VERY loud, I never had any problem with the cops anymore.

[ChinoCharles]

4.5" exhaust tip?! I'd pull you over based on principle alone. Thats just weak.

[BulletProofAuto]

exhausts, at least in the us, cannot get you pulled over unless you have removed the cat or you are in violation of the sound level law. i drive a yellow itr with a rather loud exhaust and have never been pulled over, it all depends upon how you drive.

[bigsky2]

What is the difference between the Concept G and Medalion Touring, other than appearance?

Does one have more baffling than another?

What concerns me the most about the Tanabe exhausts is the reported sound levels. I understand that it stays under 93db at all RPMs, but that could very well mean that it operates at 90db at 3000 RPM, as compared to the 72 or so db that the standard OEM exhaust generates. This is an exaggeration on my part, but I hope you understand my point.

The design of the Medalion Touring is just like the N1 series from Apex, and that design always produces more noise - and not always the best noise, especially on a N/A vehicle.

Listening to the sound clips of the Concept G from the outside, the exhaust sounds somewhat high and blaring at mid/high RPMs. I know this is going to happen when you push the car at higher revs, but the sound reminds me of all the R-Active/Cherry Bomb/Universal exhausts that contribute to the noise pollution on the streets when they're in traffic at 50-60km/h in third gear. (I blame all the poor import tuners for this!)

If Tanabe could produce a chart reflecting average db levels at various RPMs, that would help my decision to buy or not.

For example, Fujitsubo manufactures an exhaust for the 1.5L Yaris RS, brand name Wagolis, which is even QUIETER than stock! The great thing is, the sound it generates is lower (quieter) and the exhaust sound effect is not annoyingly high.

http://members.shaw.ca/bigsky2/wagolis.jpg

[jmew0ng]

based on the chart... the car produces 118 hp stock :x
Is it me.. or is that awfully high for a standard yaris.

[bigsky2]

based on the chart... the car produces 118 hp stock :x
Is it me.. or is that awfully high for a standard yaris.

That does look strange...

The Japanese Vitz RS NCP91 2WD 1.5L only produces 108 bhp.

Perhaps the left side "STD" readings are from other exhaust companies?

[jmew0ng]

could be... because I didn't think stock exhaust hit almost 100 dbs.. then again I'm always sitting inside the car so I wouldn't know :x

[monoculusjoe]

THis will be available very soon to your guys.
I am so diggin this exhaust! please email me or post up the link when its available.:thumbsup:

[C2AUTOSPL]

Todd I saw you yesterday on the 91!

[Toddhata]

Hope I didn't cut you off. How did the exhaust sound?

[C2AUTOSPL]

haha you were driving in the right line behind the big rigs. I exh seems pretty loud. Its nice though, doest sound raspy or anything.

[Tanabe USA]

What is the difference between the Concept G and Medalion Touring, other than appearance?

Does one have more baffling than another?

What concerns me the most about the Tanabe exhausts is the reported sound levels. I understand that it stays under 93db at all RPMs, but that could very well mean that it operates at 90db at 3000 RPM, as compared to the 72 or so db that the standard OEM exhaust generates. This is an exaggeration on my part, but I hope you understand my point.

The design of the Medalion Touring is just like the N1 series from Apex, and that design always produces more noise - and not always the best noise, especially on a N/A vehicle.

Listening to the sound clips of the Concept G from the outside, the exhaust sounds somewhat high and blaring at mid/high RPMs. I know this is going to happen when you push the car at higher revs, but the sound reminds me of all the R-Active/Cherry Bomb/Universal exhausts that contribute to the noise pollution on the streets when they're in traffic at 50-60km/h in third gear. (I blame all the poor import tuners for this!)

If Tanabe could produce a chart reflecting average db levels at various RPMs, that would help my decision to buy or not.

For example, Fujitsubo manufactures an exhaust for the 1.5L Yaris RS, brand name Wagolis, which is even QUIETER than stock! The great thing is, the sound it generates is lower (quieter) and the exhaust sound effect is not annoyingly high.

http://members.shaw.ca/bigsky2/wagolis.jpg


The "Under 93db" that we state does not mean that the exhaust operates at 93db at all rpms. When we are developing the exhaust system, we calculate an SAE db average using the same method of testing that is used by referee stations to test sound output from automotive exhausts.

What this means is that 93db is the maximum allowable averaged db rating of the exhaust at all rpms. The exhaust system may be 85db at idle, 88db at cruising, and 92db at high rpms. Under 93db means it will not exceed this. 95db is the legal limit of most states, and every 2db generally represents a doubling in audible volume, putting our exhaust systems well within the scope of legal operation.

Sound clips must be listened to subjectively, as the sound clips we record were using lower tech digital cameras, and only high end equipment can capture the lower, more bass sounding frequencies.

Under 93db means that our exhaust systems are tested to and will conform with SAE db testing procedures used by agencies such as CHP referee stations.

Our exhaust systems are able to acheive this type of sound compliance due to the design and packing material found inside the muffler. We use a highly unique muffler packing material that differs from virtually all other exhaust manufacturers who are still utilizing various types of fiberglass packs.

Please see http://www.tanabe-usa.com/tech/techtest.asp