42MPG

[Thej3sta2]

Guess id be the first to post here

42 MPG ftw

[YoyotaTaris]

2nd post.

42 MPG indeed.

[Sodium Duck]

I want 42... I can't break 40 (39.86). I only have like 1,200 miles on my car though, so hopefully it'll go up as many have said it does before.

[talnlnky]

i'm still trying to break 45mpg on a single tank.... I came within .25mpg once. Temps are dropping now, think i'll have to wait until spring/summer to have another chance.

[Bob_VT]

I want 42... I can't break 40 (39.86). I only have like 1,200 miles on my car though, so hopefully it'll go up as many have said it does before.

Using DFCO will get you there. I have an auto lb and average 40+ but I do alot of driving.

[PETERPOOP]

I only managed 41.59etc... yesterday when i filled up.

I haven't broke 5k miles yet though. I drive a manual and shift before 3k rpms. I also coast whenever i can. I don't go past 60mph either!

Hopefully i can hit the 45mpg mark after i reach 5k miles.

How many miles do you have to put on the car before it reaches it's full potential for mpg?

[Sodium Duck]

Using DFCO will get you there. I have an auto lb and average 40+ but I do alot of driving.

I use it all the time. There is this awesome hill that I use to get home from classes. I can coast for about 1.3 miles. I also coast to stops signs, lights, etc. I don't idle at all, at most about 30 seconds in the morning to warm up the engine a lil. I turn off my car the second I get to where I am going. I don't speed, I drive 55mph on the highways. I don't rev my engine hard, I never go above 2K (probably more like 1.5K max) but I don't have a tach to verify.

I can't think of anything else to do, lol. I want to break 40 so bad! hahaha

[talnlnky]

I only managed 41.59etc... yesterday when i filled up.

I haven't broke 5k miles yet though. I drive a manual and shift before 3k rpms. I also coast whenever i can. I don't go past 60mph either!

Hopefully i can hit the 45mpg mark after i reach 5k miles.

How many miles do you have to put on the car before it reaches it's full potential for mpg?

for me gains were very gradual...until I started using DFCO and then I instantly got +10% mpgs (4mpg) which bumped me up to over 40mpg.... since then.... slightly increases... When it was 80+ degrees outside I avg'd 43mpg.... cept for when I did 8hr drives and avg'd around 75mph.

[Sodium Duck]

How many miles do you have to put on the car before it reaches it's full potential for mpg?

I've heard that you get gains at around 5K, 10K, and 20K. Then that's it.

[talnlnky]

well then.... i'm waiting for my last gain when I hit 20k in about 2-3months. at 17K right now.... will do 1k over thanksgiving.. and another 1k at christmas. prolly good for another 1k just doing around town stuff between now and christmas. hmmm 20k in 1 year.... stupid 1000mile round trips to visit home.

[goku87]

43.243mpg

And that is with my car sitting outside idling for about 1.5ish hours as well. (its getting cold outside so i meant to warm up my car a bit before i left. totally fell asleep...)

[TinyGiant]

i'm at almost 1500 miles and getting 38-39mpg

:) looking forward to another 4-5 mpg hopefully :)

[Phaeton]

My best is 45 but I tried very hard for that.

[Cutie Pie #2]

I usually get about 39mpg driving to work, I just got 43 mpg on friday going to work.

[PETERPOOP]

I think we are judging the mpg for an entire tank, not just one trip....


Aren't we!? Well atleast I was! Obviously I will get great mpg on the freeway only. So I don't say i get whatever MPG that is. I have to do an entire tank of highway/city driving, then get my "real" mpg.

[Sodium Duck]

Yea, only full tank MPG folks. I don't care that when you went down a hill you got 9999 MPG, or 45+ MPG when travelling on the highway; that's a useless number that any car can achieve... When DFCO kicks in I get infinite MPG, woot!

[DFA]

Sucks how you guys get almost double my mileage...

Panamanian traffic sucks balls.

[AznGouki]

Whats DFCO? I've only filled twice so far and I got 35 mpg. How do you guys stand driving so slow haha. The car yearns for speed and I deliver it.
I thought about the coasting bit, so for my next tank I'm gonna aim for a high mpg goal.

[anonymous user]

Whats DFCO? I've only filled twice so far and I got 35 mpg. How do you guys stand driving so slow haha. The car yearns for speed and I deliver it.
I thought about the coasting bit, so for my next tank I'm gonna aim for a high mpg goal.

The car yearns for speed? Thanks for the laugh mate. Go drive a performance car, then feel speed. This car yearns for F.E. It handles like a pig on rollerskates, and if you have a L.B. , looks like one too.

[Sodium Duck]

Yea, lol... this is by no means a speed demon...

DFCO stands for deceleration fuel cut off. Go look for the sticky by BailOut for fuel economy tips -- and a full explanation on DFCO. (Bassically it's when you coast... but you use zero fuel.)

[Sodium Duck]

Hahahahahhaahaha................. yearning for speed...................... mercy sakes alive!

[anonymous user]

Hahahahahhaahaha................. yearning for speed...................... mercy sakes alive!

Glad i'm not the only one who thought that statement was funny.

[Mikeb Yaris]

Third tank in a row @ 43mpg. Running avg is almost 42 now!

This tank, as a challenge from my skeptic spouse, I'm driving "normal". No hypermiling at all. Idling whenever for however long, no shutting off at the long lights, no intentional DFCO, driving speed limit (or 5 above), maintain speed up hills...the whole shebang. She thinks it will work out the same. What do you guys say? Should I bet her money?

[Appalachian Trail 2007]

I've gone about 2K miles and my average is 41.38 but my highest was 44.95...and I don't consider myself an intense hypermiler. I don't shut my car off at lights and I don't use DFCO as often as others. I find that the momentum generated rather than engine braking is more valuable...unless I'm stopping/slowing down anyway.

[Mikeb Yaris]

Wow - what an awesome starting point! I'm jealous! :bow:

[Mikeb Yaris]

One tip I forgot to mention, even though others have...

I NEVER EVER buy gas that has ethanol in it!

[Appalachian Trail 2007]

very good point...though in NY all gas has ethanol in it....I love the government

[Sodium Duck]

Yes, bet her money. I can almost guarantee your mileage will go down, lol.

[talnlnky]

cost of ethanol gas should be cheaper.... in fact.... if anything.... ethanol gas should be cheaper to run than normal gas.

[Appalachian Trail 2007]

ethanol gas is "SUPPOSE" to be 8 cents a gallon cheaper...but the mpg losses can be as high as 10% in some studies. So ethanol in your gas is not cheaper, plus it makes your food prices go up.

[Mikeb Yaris]

ethanol gas is "SUPPOSE" to be 8 cents a gallon cheaper...but the mpg losses can be as high as 10% in some studies. So ethanol in your gas is not cheaper, plus it makes your food prices go up.

Nothing like supporting artificially subsidized government means of starving third world countries.

[Mikeb Yaris]

LETS BURN OUR FOOD IN OUR CARS! YAY!

[Mikeb Yaris]

ethanol gas is "SUPPOSE" to be 8 cents a gallon cheaper...but the mpg losses can be as high as 10% in some studies. So ethanol in your gas is not cheaper, plus it makes your food prices go up.

Do not forget that the ONLY reason ethanol lowers the price is because the government SUBSIDIZES ethanol. IOW, the per BTU price of ethanol is way higher than gasoline, but because it is "renewable" the government subsidizes it's production quite substantially, resulting in an ARTIFICIAL reduction in cost. The REAL COST of ethanol in America is substantially higher per BTU than gasoline. You pay for it in your taxes and in international trade rather than at the pump, but you DO pay for it.

A BTU is a BTU.

[Mikeb Yaris]

And third world countries pay for it....by starving to death.

[freckles]

I do lots of freeway driving with a packed car in the mountains, and I averaged 52 mpg over 2 days of driving to Montana. I usually average about 48 mpg. I love my car :) It's a manual transmission, I think that has a lot to do with it. I have so much more control over my car.

[Appalachian Trail 2007]

52 ?! Congrats...don't let brian see that...he'll come in and ask for your raw data and say it doesn't count unless you have your numbers to two decimal places and used at least a half of a tank (blah blah blah). He'll also inform you that he currently has about a million records for the yaris and he would be very interested if anyone actually beat him.

[PETERPOOP]

that's only over a period of two days. or was the entire tank used in 2 days you're saying. we want mpg for entire tanks.

like stated before, we don't care what you get on just a freeway run or what not. we want the entire tank mpg.

[Luna V 2.0]

I'm jealous of your MPG averages. I average low 30s and my car has 20k miles on it. I bought it used a few weeks ago so it might be due for some maintenance since I don't know how it's last owner took care of it. Maybe after that it'll get better FE averages.

I don't have high hopes though, I only drive about 14 miles a day but its constant stop and go traffic with like 4 school zones. gah.

[Sodium Duck]

I'm jealous of your MPG averages. I average low 30s and my car has 20k miles on it. I bought it used a few weeks ago so it might be due for some maintenance since I don't know how it's last owner took care of it. Maybe after that it'll get better FE averages.

I don't have high hopes though, I only drive about 14 miles a day but its constant stop and go traffic with like 4 school zones. gah.

See: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9510

This thread has a lot of real world, practical driving tips to get the most fuel economy out of your Yaris. I think you can do better.

[natethegreat38]

The Kiwi says I am doing about 40 mpg, calculating it at the gas station yields about 39 mpg, and this is with wider, softer tires!! (running 205/55R15 Yokohama S.drive tires).

Sodium- have you changed your tires from OE?

[Sodium Duck]

Stock tires, stock pressure. In the future I do plan to upgrade, but I will keep the same diameter/width/tire specs -- just a lighter wheel.

[natethegreat38]

Interesting, espeicially since you seem to be doing the same thing that everybody else is doing... you drive under the speed limits, at or over??

[marcus]

39mpg ave 50/50

i did 45 mpg 90% hwy averaging 95km/hr

[jh3cuemd]

You get mpg that I would dream to have. My average is 35 mpg in city and 45 in highway driving normally and with a well treated car. I´m happy for you guys :clap: but I´m actually jelous :drool: because you get those mpg with a 1.5 engine and mine has a 1.3 and I can´t beat you. I think that´s ok because it is great enough numbers for mpg that I´m getting with my car and I don´t want to change a lot my driving habits just to get a fwe more mpg.

[Sodium Duck]

I do the speed limit. I try to drive as close to 45/50MPH as much as I can though, within reason. And as I said before I do 55MPH on the highway, which is apart of my daily commute (probably 60% is highway). That helps a lot, even in my old car (1999 Ford Contour) I noticed significant gains in MPG by driving 55MPH on the highway.

It all comes to down to driving very smoothly, from start to stop. Try a day of driving where you only depress the gas pedal an inch or two -- that's how I drive everyday. There's no need to be digging into the gas with any car for regular everyday driving.

Also, don't rush to get up to speed. Just because the limit changes from 35 to 40, doesn't mean you have to mash your gas to "catch up." Let the car chug along and you'll get there. Driving on the streets isn't a race -- ever.

*end rant*

[Sodium Duck]

I don´t want to change a lot my driving habits just to get a fwe more mpg.

Typically by changing your driving habits, you can expect as much as a 20% gain in fuel economy -- deffinetely not "just a few" more mpg.

[metalshark]

It took 2 weeks to burn up that last tank by commuting. 43.57 MPG. 80% city, 20% highway. My commute is 33 miles round trip. Average cruise setting is about 40 MPG on flat streets. Average distance between lights where I absolutely have to stop and start- 8 miles. The next two mods are Amsoil 5-20 and a block heater/float charger for at work and at home. Come on 45. I'm pushin 15k on the odo.

[SilverGlow]

I do lots of freeway driving with a packed car in the mountains, and I averaged 52 mpg over 2 days of driving to Montana. I usually average about 48 mpg. I love my car :) It's a manual transmission, I think that has a lot to do with it. I have so much more control over my car.


For one entire tank? Hmmmm.......Brian, where are you?!?

[SilverGlow]

I drive 75% highway, 25% city, and over a typical tank I average 41 MPG.

I have found that taking off too slowly from a light will burn more gas then taking off a tad faster up to cruising speed (posted speed limit). I drive 1-3 MPH past the posted then back off to the posted speed limit. This tells VVTi to change the timing from "accelerate" mode for "cruising" mode. This causes my realtime MPG to jump to 50+, then I simply hold the posted speed limit and while doing this I get 50+ MPG. Of course it's the stoping and waiting at red lights that brings my average down to low 40's.

Back in June I spent two weeks on a 4,500 road trip all over the state of New Mexico, and on one tank (driving from Taos to Carlsbad caves) my tank average was 46 MPG. But that trip was 100% freeway, 70's heat, and with the A/C blowing the entire trip.

I put about 4 oz. of Lucas Upper Chamber Lub into every tank of gas. This is no snake oil. The car idles smoother, is a bit quieter, and I get more response from the gas peddle. In addition, I find that my MPG shows an 8% increase over not using it. I ran 5 tanks with and 5 tanks without and I was able to show an 8% increase in MPG. In addition, this product keeps the combustion chamber clean. I change the oil at 5,000 using the cheapest synthetic 0W-20 I can find that has the current ratings, and just before each oil change, I throw into the gas tank a bottle of Chevron Techron concentrate.

These days my 2007 hatchback has 43,000 miles and the MPG seems to keep getting better and better. So far no problems with the car. By the way, my car has a 4 speed auto.

[Jack Reacher]

I got 41.87 mpg on the first tank last weekend. I'm going to fill up tomorrow and see if It got better or worse. I did allot of city driving so it probly will decline slightly.

[nsmitchell]

46.6MPG... Oops! That was in my '09 Fit. :redface:

My Yaris gets around 42 on the highway.

[voodoo22]

46.6MPG... Oops! That was in my '09 Fit. :redface:

My Yaris gets around 42 on the highway.

If you're getting more MPG in a Fit vs a Yaris, then this isn't a fair comparison, because a MT Yaris driven identically in the same conditions will beat a MT Fit and the same is true for AT vs AT.

[nsmitchell]

My 2009 Fit AT is smokin' my 2007 Yaris AT in mileage. No contest. :cry:

My Fit got 46.6 MPG using straight cruise control at 65MPH on a 250 mile round trip. I did use my paddle shifers to hold 5th gear the whole time though.:wink:

My Yaris would get about 40MPG using cruise at 65MPH.

[lita_g]

I'm sure I'm doing something wrong, since I'm only getting about 33.5 mpg so far (50% city/50% hwy), and my LB only has less than 2000 miles on it. It's an AT though, and I am trying to use DFCO, I think what kills me is the fact that the main roads I can take to work have speed limits of either 65mph or 70mph, I take the 65 one most of the time and it's impossible to even go 65, since this is FL everybody thinks it's ok to speed I guess.

[Mikeb Yaris]

My 2009 Fit AT is smokin' my 2007 Yaris AT in mileage. No contest. :cry:

My Fit got 46.6 MPG using straight cruise control at 65MPH on a 250 mile round trip. I did use my paddle shifers to hold 5th gear the whole time though.:wink:

My Yaris would get about 40MPG using cruise at 65MPH.

Wonder what Honda did to the '09? Good for you! Even though I knocked Fit off my list because of price, a secondary concern for me was that I couldn't find massive numbers of people reporting better than EPA mileage like you can with the Yaris.

The Fit is still an ugly car tho :biggrin:

[b_hickman11]

My 2009 Fit AT is smokin' my 2007 Yaris AT in mileage. No contest. :cry:

My Fit got 46.6 MPG using straight cruise control at 65MPH on a 250 mile round trip. I did use my paddle shifers to hold 5th gear the whole time though.:wink:

My Yaris would get about 40MPG using cruise at 65MPH.

I have gotten 44.67 mpg on a 400+ mile round trip with cruise set at 70 mph, A/C on high and outside temp at 103 degress, with NO hypermiling techniques!

2007 Sedan with AT

[custom Lftback]

haven't broken 40 yet, but I only have 850 mi on it yet.

[AznGouki]

The car yearns for speed? Thanks for the laugh mate. Go drive a performance car, then feel speed. This car yearns for F.E. It handles like a pig on rollerskates, and if you have a L.B. , looks like one too.

I'm glad you have that much respect for your car. Not quite sure how you have your car set up but if it's the car you have in your avatar, I would agree that it does handle like a pig on roller skates. I feel sorry for you guys that think your car handles like garbage and look like ass.
But lets not pollute this thread with stupid remarks. PM me directly if you have a problem with anything I say.

Rich

[voodoo22]

Wonder what Honda did to the '09? Good for you! Even though I knocked Fit off my list because of price, a secondary concern for me was that I couldn't find massive numbers of people reporting better than EPA mileage like you can with the Yaris.

The Fit is still an ugly car tho :biggrin:

They didn't do anything. The Fit is still not capable of getting better numbers than an identical Yaris under any circumstance. Any one saying so is doing something different which they are unaware of. It's not like there is an astronomical difference, but it's there and there's no way around it.

A normally driven AT Yaris will even beat a normally driven MT Fit on hwy driving because of the poor gearing configuration made by Honda.

[natethegreat38]

i got 40.2 this past weekend... One trip, I averaged 55.1 mpg (according to the Kiwi)

[nsmitchell]

They didn't do anything. The Fit is still not capable of getting better numbers than an identical Yaris under any circumstance. Any one saying so is doing something different which they are unaware of. It's not like there is an astronomical difference, but it's there and there's no way around it.

A normally driven AT Yaris will even beat a normally driven MT Fit on hwy driving because of the poor gearing configuration made by Honda.

You must be referring to the 07-08 Fits. The 09 is a whole new ballgame.:biggrin:

[natethegreat38]

I like the gearing of the Yaris, but I think the Fit is geared to provide more torque from such a small engine...

[voodoo22]

You must be referring to the 07-08 Fits. The 09 is a whole new ballgame.:biggrin:

The new Fit AT may get better FE than the Yaris if you're not driving with FE in mind. This I don't know, because the data I analyzed and many samples I have read are only from people interested in getting good FE. At least you don't have the MT Fit which is geared so absurdly. One of the guys I work with who has a new Fit with a MT cannot get over 45 MPG over a more favorable commute than mine while I am easily clearing 45 MPG and usually 50 MPG+.

I wish Honda would have offered the smaller engines here before Toyota and then this entire discussion would be moot and the Fit would be the clear FE winner.

Either way, you're lucky because you get to drive a Fit and it suits your needs. I would love to drive a Honda over a Toyota, but I couldn't justify the huge price difference and lower FE when it was time to make our purchase.

[nsmitchell]

I don't get to drive it all the time unfortunately. :cry: i am driving it today though. :smile:

[metalshark]

I'll see your 42 and raise you one....three times in a row. On my first tank eight months ago I only got 35.6 MPG. Through mods and DFCO my numbers are now upside down, 39 highway keeping up with traffic and cruise set to the posted limit, and 43 MPG in town using DFCO and cruise set to the posted limits. The next mods I try will be a PTFE fuel/octane treatment and some oil treatments. The goal is 40 highway/44 city. At 15,000 miles it's almost broken in. Considering their durability, I define a Toyota fully broken in at 20,000 miles and some of them I've driven 250,000 miles on the way to the bone yard.

[metalshark]

One month above 40 MPG. More than four tanks were used in the calculation. Gotta love 5w-20 plus not having to use AC.

[bronsin]

I use it all the time. There is this awesome hill that I use to get home from classes. I can coast for about 1.3 miles. I also coast to stops signs, lights, etc. I don't idle at all, at most about 30 seconds in the morning to warm up the engine a lil. I turn off my car the second I get to where I am going. I don't speed, I drive 55mph on the highways. I don't rev my engine hard, I never go above 2K (probably more like 1.5K max) but I don't have a tach to verify.

I can't think of anything else to do, lol. I want to break 40 so bad! hahaha

Try different brands of gas. I get 3-4 mpg more with GUlF than Valero...

[Rich k]

Best tank this summer driving to and from work 34 miles ea way 1/2 stop and go thru traffic lights was 49.987mpg, average for june and july was around 48 mpg lots of 49.9XX tanks, that was with about 15,000 miles on the car.

[voodoo22]

Best tank this summer driving to and from work 34 miles ea way 1/2 stop and go thru traffic lights was 49.987mpg, average for june and july was around 48 mpg lots of 49.9XX tanks, that was with about 15,000 miles on the car.

Those are awesome numbers with any city driving:w00t:

[Lazerdot]

I have an Afe filter, TRD exhaust,and AMSOIL synthetic oil. 43 mpg highway with speeds around 65-75 on the open road. Around town it varies, especially with my 215-40-17s on. With the car lowered, TRD suspension, and a short shift its to fun to care about MPGs. Over all I love the little "jelly bean". I call it my "wyz" car, the people waiting for the smart car are missin out! Very fun to Autocross too!

[otterhere]

Still trying to break 35 mpg here...

[derickveliz2]

I found out that when I was using tires with 23.9 in in diameter I was getting 40-45 mpg (OEM) Now I'm using 23.0 in diameter tires and I'm getting 34-38 mpg

And if we take in consideration that my tachometer is off by almost 3% then mpg are some where in 32-36 mpg.

So I'm guessing that some of the yaris owners who are using 14 in wheels and / or other tire size that the diameter is around 23 inches then this could be what makes the big difference.

[metalshark]

Christmas fill-up. 43.0 MPG commuting. Woo-Hoo. Temps are 35-45 F during my commute and I'm on winter gas now. 18 K on OdO now. Last year when it was new and un-modified I was getting 35-36 MPG.... but I wasn't hyper-mile'n yet then.

[TSYARiSS07]

How many miles can you go on a full tank of gas?

[Doug007]

I have been keeping track of my mileage on the EPA.gov website since I bought the 2007 Sedan S with 12 miles on the odo. My overall average is 41; low is 36 and high is 48. Even with winter tires I'm maintaining 39-40. Not sure if my minor mods have anything to do with it (Magnaflow exhaust, K&N drop-in and Red Line transmission fluid), or if it's my driving style. I'm still chasing the elusive 50mpg mark!

[mikenacarato]

my avg is around 42mpg as well! beats the heck out of my old lincoln.

[daf62757]

Just curious if anyone has changed their spark plugs and tried the Bosch Platinum Ir Fusion plugs. I just bought my Yaris and in the process of getting it changed over to Synthetic oil and getting some mag wheels.

Has anyone tried new plugs?

[marcus]

Just curious if anyone has changed their spark plugs and tried the Bosch Platinum Ir Fusion plugs. I just bought my Yaris and in the process of getting it changed over to Synthetic oil and getting some mag wheels.

Has anyone tried new plugs?

i think the one one the yaris is a high end spark plug NGk iridium .no need to replace

[sbergman27]

i think the one one the yaris is a high end spark plug NGk iridium .no need to replace

Spark plug change shows up at 120,000 miles on the maintenance schedule. :-)

[sbergman27]

I've only had my 2008 Sedan for a short time. But I've determined that with negligible wind, over slightly hilly terrain at a steady 67 mph, no A/C, it does about 44 mpg. I'd expect to see 45 mpg at 65 mph. I Just finished a trip at 70-75 mph and the (as yet uncalibrated) scangauge is reading 41.0. I'll be filling up in the morning to verify. But I noted that the fuel gauge started blinking almost exactly when the scangauge predicted I'd be at 1.6 gal.

My 1988 Chevy Sprint Metro gets 53 mpg under the conditions of the first trip mentioned. Amazing little cars, those were. Blows away the Yaris' fuel economy, and even beats the 3rd gen Prius on the highway. And all that at 345,000 miles.

-Steve