GOOD-BYE YARIS, HELLO FIT!

[bobby]

...well, not quite. I did buy a new Honda "Phit" which I'm picking up on Saturday, 10/25/08, but the Yaris will still be in the family, so I'll still be on this forum.

I love the Yaris, but after test-driving the Phit, I was SOLD! I bought the sport model with Navigation system, in 'orange revolution metallic' which is quite beautiful. The car has 6 air-bags, ABS, electronic stability control, auto transmission, etc. Every available option. The seats are so supportive too!

Can't wait to get it...will upload photos. Here is a picture of it (from the Honda website) in the orange I chose.

[Thej3sta2]

yeah F*** that F*t. hehe

[BailOut]

Congratulations! I'm curious, do you have the ability to turn the ESC/EBD off at will?

[drbilal]

...well, not quite. I did buy a new Honda "Phit" which I'm picking up on Saturday, 10/25/08, but the Yaris will still be in the family, so I'll still be on this forum.

I love the Yaris, but after test-driving the Phit, I was SOLD! I bought the sport model with Navigation system, in 'orange revolution metallic' which is quite beautiful. The car has 6 air-bags, ABS, electronic stability control, auto transmission, etc. Every available option. The seats are so supportive too!

Can't wait to get it...will upload photos. Here is a picture of it (from the Honda website) in the orange I chose.

Not my fav choice of color, but deff a nice choice of car. I havent seen one myself in person but looks very spacious from the inside and you got a great package in the sport wtih some nice features. Looking forward to seeing your pics of the interior etc. And a pic of it parked next to a yaris for size comparison would be nice.

Cheers


And congrats!

[nemelek]

The honda is a well made car. In 3 months give us an update as to the real world MPG.

[jclo3313]

Honda Odyssey
9585
Honda Fit
9586
Seperated at birth?

[ozmdd]

Great looking car. I considered one, then priced it. :( Probably a good value feature-for-feature, but they don't offer one without all the bells and whistles (wouldnt' it be cool if you COULD get bells and whistles as an option?), and price was a huge factor in my decision to replace my CR-V. Do love Honda's, though. I've owned at least one Honda at any given time since 1992. Curious, what was the final price on that package?

[Letsrock]

Seperated at birth. Notice the mismatch rims on the Odyssey?

[jclo3313]

Yep!

[PaidTimeOff]

I saw one on the road last night. A wave of jealousy washed over me as that's a pretty nice car. Then I got home, turned around, looked at my car and then I felt great about my previous decisions. Just needed to be reminded of what I got and the price I got it for ;). Sorry, but personally, I take the stylings of the Yaris over the Fit any day of the week.

No kids, 2 door > 4 door imo

[tristan]

what's with the posts with people going with the fit?
get out of here you yaris traitors! lol jk

[aca72]

I take the stylings of the Yaris over the Fit any day of the week.

Amen to that!

[Bredayaris]

I hope you can enjoy it but for me it still looks like a minivan.

[IsLNdbOi]

Dunno about that Fit. The front becomes low and extended. I like the overall "bubbly" look of the Yaris.

[MadMax]

Different strokes, but I think the Fit is ugly! And this from the owner of an Odyssey!

But that's just my opinion, I hope it is everything you hope it is!

Cheers! M2

[gid]

BOBBY , keep us informed on the gas mileage . THANKS and Enjoy

[gid]

We / I plan to check out the NISSAN " Cube " soon as it arrives . Late spring ? What yeh expect from a SQUARE :rolleyes: ? It's hip to be square :smoking: , did have a '06 SCION XB once , a close cousin to the YARIS Liftback .

[bobby]

I think the ESC can be turned on & off. No color is going to please everybody of course, but I do love the orange revolution metallic. (As I always say, 'why fit in when you can stand out?') I never liked the looks of the original Phit, but I absolutely love the redesign. It is evolutionary, not revolutionary. I've not read one review (and I did a LOT of research on this car) which did not love what Honda improved with the Phit. It is the economy car against which all others must be judged.

Driving the "Phit" (I don't know why, but I really like that spelling!) really sold me. As a Yaris owner, I was able to do a good comparison, and the Phit really felt more solid, and MUCH more quite. The audio system sounds wonderful, and the Navigation system is easy and very intuitive. I also love the "magic seats". The back seats (where you plant your butt) can flip UP, giving you lots of flat floor space to put a bike, or other tall items. (There is also a "secret" storage bin under the back seat to store a radar detector, or other things you want to hide. (Shhh....) When you fold the back seats DOWN, they fold completely flat, and the room is astounding. It is VERY well designed, and very space efficient. I love all the safety features as well.

The "modifications" I am planning are minimal. I would like to get an electric sunroof, wheel locks, and more powerful halogen bulbs for the headlights. (Not HID, just stronger, brighter bulbs) Beyond that, I have already spent enough money, so that's about it!

I still love the Yaris, but I am thrilled to be getting the 2009 Phit. I will post photos, and I will report on gas mileage!

[Bob_VT]

Be careful installing "more powerful halogen bulbs for the headlights" ...... do the homework and make sure you do not burn up the wiring harness.

Here's a tip..... adjust the headlights up just a touch and see if that helps.

[nsmitchell]

Welcome to Yaris / Fit owners club Bobby!

I have a 2009 Tidewater Blue Metallic Fit and I LOVE it!

You will be very impressed with the mileage. I got 46.6 MPG at 65 MPH using only cruise control on a 250 mile round trip on the highway.

I wish I had opted for the Sport with Navi. We just got the Sport.

[ChinoCharles]

The new Fit is growing on me. The only thing I don't like about the car is the rear end. The rest is cool.

Congrats on your purchase!

[nsmitchell]

When I sell my Yaris next year, I would love to get the exact Fit that you chose. Same color with Navi! Hopefully they will have the glass roof option available then!

I know you are going to love it! :smile:

[bobby]

Be careful installing "more powerful halogen bulbs for the headlights" ...... do the homework and make sure you do not burn up the wiring harness.

With the stronger, brighter, more powerful bulbs, I'll also buy the heavy-duty wiring harness, which is recommended. I put the stronger bulbs in my Yaris, and I'm very happy with the way it lights up the road...and they're not so bright that they blind people. I chose the Nokya 'Arctic White' bulbs, and they are so superior to the stock bulbs.

[grampi]

The new Fit is a nice car, but way too expensive. The Fit and Yaris are SUPPOSED to be ECONOMY cars.

[IsLNdbOi]

I configured a Fit Sport online and the price came out almost the same a a 2009 5-door LB S (both were fully loaded). They're both too expensive for economy cars though.

[bobby]

I think that the "economy" with the Phit and the Yaris is the gas mileage, not the price. If you want to buy an inexpensive small car, you might want to consider a base Hyundai Accent, which has become pretty reliable over the years, and has a great warrenty.

If you want cheap/junky/no-resale-value, buy an <ewww...> Aveo.

[IsLNdbOi]

No. The Fit and the Yaris are Honda's and Toyota's lowest end cars. They are supposed to be economy cars.

[bnther36]

Traitor!!!

:tongue:

Post pics when you get it...and some real world mpg numbers,

[bobby]

Well, look, if you buy the base Yaris or the base no-phrills Phit, they are relatively cheap. I guess the word 'economy'--when referring to an automobile--is all rather subjective, no?

It's like when I was a kid, and I'd ask my father "is that guy rich?", and he'd always answer "what's 'rich'?"

Similarly, how do we define 'economy' car? Is the least expensive Mercedes Benz an economy car?

[TheSilkySmooth]

The new Fit is a nice car, but way too expensive. The Fit and Yaris are SUPPOSED to be ECONOMY cars. Ido agree unless you pay under 13000.00 you pay way too much for entray level autocar. You can get used 2005 VW toureg for 15 with no miles!!! and lether seat in 4 places:wub:

[TheSilkySmooth]

I think now the toyota handles bad but it does not slide 2 mush. I dontlike turning the wheel only going ahead on the autobarn at 140KpH. "Zoom...ZOOM!!!!!!

[nsmitchell]

Some Pics of my baby!

[nsmitchell]

Some people have voiced that the front end makes it "ugly".

That front end also allows it to get subperb mileage.

As for it looking like a minivan So what. I loved my Odyssey!

[grampi]

Nothing ugly about that! It's a beautiful car! I may even think about about picking up a used one a few years down the road.

[bobby]

Ido agree unless you pay under 13000.00 you pay way too much for entray level autocar. You can get used 2005 VW toureg for 15 with no miles!!!


Perhaps, except that the VW Toureg has a TERRIBLE reputation for reliability. If you don't mind that, I suppose it's a good choice....for you.


I think the 2009 Phits are Phabulous & beautiful!

[at3GG]

:bow:...thank God almighty that someone else took the time to display the Odyssey Jr ( AKA the Fit) for what it is......a microvan. Good thing you're keeping the yaris in the family or I'd be disgruntled.

[gid]

Be careful installing "more powerful halogen bulbs for the headlights" ...... do the homework and make sure you do not burn up the wiring harness.

With the stronger, brighter, more powerful bulbs, I'll also buy the heavy-duty wiring harness, which is recommended. I put the stronger bulbs in my Yaris, and I'm very happy with the way it lights up the road...and they're not so bright that they blind people. I chose the Nokya 'Arctic White' bulbs, and they are so superior to the stock bulbs. a new harness won't be needed . If you buy the WAGNER or off brands then you're asking for trouble , I know this by experience . We've been using the regular SILVERSTAR and ULTRA for years now without too many problems . If you have daytime running lights they will shorten the life of these , I've had to replace the SILVERSTAR about every year and and a 1/2 with daytime running lights . They seem to blow when it gets colder in late NOVEMBER , DECEMBER . If you can get SILVERSTAR at 1/2 price , then worth it . PEPBOYS seems to have these on sale the most , followed by ADVANCE AUTO PARTS . Go to SYLVANIA's website and you will find a printable mail-in rebate online , go here www.sylvania.com/content/display.scfx?id=003697635 . TAKE CARE

[gid]

Some people have voiced that the front end makes it "ugly".

That front end also allows it to get subperb mileage.

As for it looking like a minivan So what. I loved my Odyssey! :thumbsup: . We had an '06 SCION XB and took a lot crap from relatives about its looks . TOASTER car , etc. . One relative said wouldn't want to be seen in it , sometimes ugliness has its pluses :biggrin: . Can't wait for the NISSAN " Cube " to arrive , get that to keep people from wanting rides :burnrubber: :wink: .

[grampi]

:thumbsup: . We had an '06 SCION XB and took a lot crap from relatives about its looks . TOASTER car , etc. . One relative said wouldn't want to be seen in it , sometimes ugliness has its pluses :biggrin: . Can't wait for the NISSAN " Cube " to arrive , get that to keep people from wanting rides :burnrubber: :wink: .

The "box" shaped vehicles are ugly and I don't understand the attraction to them.

[Letsrock]

:thumbsup: . We had an '06 SCION XB and took a lot crap from relatives about its looks . TOASTER car , etc. . One relative said wouldn't want to be seen in it , sometimes ugliness has its pluses :biggrin: . Can't wait for the NISSAN " Cube " to arrive , get that to keep people from wanting rides :burnrubber: :wink: .

Some people call my Yaris a "clown Car". who cares. Getting one tank of gas every 2 weeks makes it woth it. First full tank of gas i got 366 miles on it.
the joke is on them.

[gid]

The "box" shaped vehicles are ugly and I don't understand the attraction to them. thanks . I'll take that as a compliment and with a grain of salt :smile: .

[gid]

Some people call my Yaris a "clown Car". who cares. Getting one tank of gas every 2 weeks makes it woth it. First full tank of gas i got 366 miles on it.
the joke is on them.
we get relatives saying . " I could fit that in the back of my S.U.V. " and had neighbors point at it and laugh , of course they're driving a 4 door G.M.C. pickup . They're the clowns for p*ssing away their money on gas and contributing to this energy / financial crisis ( earnings that could be used towards house , car payments or other ) , and supporting terrorist or totalitarian governments :clap: . PEOPLE JUST DON"T GET IT :stupid: .

[ddongbap]

Honda Odyssey
9585
Honda Fit
9586
Seperated at birth?

Thats like saying the Yaris looks like the Sienna.

Btw, don't let anyone bag on u for getting a Fit. Nothing wrong with it. IMO, its a better car than the Yaris, but it also costs more.

Just don't lower your car if you plan on parking that close to the curb thingy.

[PaidTimeOff]

Thats like saying the Yaris looks like the Sienna.

Btw, don't let anyone bag on u for getting a Fit. Nothing wrong with it. IMO, its a better car than the Yaris, but it also costs more.

Just don't lower your car if you plan on parking that close to the curb thingy.

Well, Yaris doesn't actually look like the Sienna. The whole point is that the Yaris isn't shaped like a minivan the way the Fit is. Preferences on looks are all subjective though, so I'm glad the op enjoys the car. But coming to a Yaris forum and bragging about your Fit isn't going to get you as many compliments as you would probably like. We chose the Yaris over the Fit for a reason (or many reasons :thumbsup: ).

[grampi]

thanks . I'll take that as a compliment and with a grain of salt :smile: .

You can take it as a compliment, but it wasn't meant as one.

[PaidTimeOff]

You can take it as a compliment, but it wasn't meant as one.

The Scion xB's depreciation is incredible compared to most other cars, so common opinion goes against yours... Oh, that wasn't meant as a compliment btw :wink:

http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/55648/cars/auto_industrys_10_best_and_worst_cars_for_deprecia tion.html

[voodoo22]

Who cares what other people think about the looks of your car. Unless they're footing the bill their opinion should mean nothing to you.

Congratulations on the new Fit. It's a nice car. Too bad we can't get the smaller engines in cars like this here, but it still does pretty well on gas.

[gid]

You can take it as a compliment, but it wasn't meant as one. :wink:

[specialeducator]

The new Fit is a nice car, but way too expensive. The Fit and Yaris are SUPPOSED to be ECONOMY cars.

Exactly why I am driving a Yaris and not a Fit- one fit my budget and the other didn't. If I wanted to spend that much I'd also have looked at a Corolla.

[grampi]

The Scion xB's depreciation is incredible compared to most other cars, so common opinion goes against yours... Oh, that wasn't meant as a compliment btw :wink:

http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/55648/cars/auto_industrys_10_best_and_worst_cars_for_deprecia tion.html

What common opinion? I doubt the xB's resale value is due to its looks. A box on wheels is a box on wheels.

[TheSilkySmooth]

The "box" shaped vehicles are ugly and I don't understand the attraction to them. I know The cube shape is very efficient for giving lot of room in any size wheel-base. Look at VW Bus and Dodge sprinter. Maybe not so aerodynamic for Autobahn storming ( zoom zoom zoom). I like The first release xB is good vehicle maybe better than Vitz. Maybe the old white guy need pointy car to go with pointy head and lack of mound in his pants?:laugh:?

[TheSilkySmooth]

I have compliments on my box shape;)

[TheSilkySmooth]

Fit just look like this old car from years ago - for Suzuki Motorcyle Company?

Please reference picture below:

[grampi]

I know The cube shape is very efficient for giving lot of room in any size wheel-base. Look at VW Bus and Dodge sprinter. Maybe not so aerodynamic for Autobahn storming ( zoom zoom zoom). I like The first release xB is good vehicle maybe better than Vitz. Maybe the old white guy need pointy car to go with pointy head and lack of mound in his pants?:laugh:?

Yeah, I guess i just don't fit the flat-billed hat wearin', pants crotch hanging below the knees, fart muffler, obnoxiously loud stereo playin' xB drivin' stereotype.

[PETERPOOP]

I don't like the new fit design. It looks like a missle and a mini van. I also don't like the yaris looks either. It's given the sedan will look like a typical eco car with nothing to catch the eye. The HB looks like it's been squashed from the front and back. The older fits look the best.

[IsLNdbOi]

The new Fit looks like a shoehorn. I liked the shape of the '07 US LB the best. I don't like the new bumper dent guards they put on the bumpers of the '09 LBs.

[niko3257]

I too have a Fit and a Yaris in the family.
i had my 09 fit for about a month now and it's great.
gas mileage is excellent also. i get 37+ MPG.
best i've seen so far is 43 MPG.


i was so close to buying a yaris but toyota said no
5spd for the 5 door. i hope toyota get there head out
of there arse and makes it for 2010.

the yaris we have is a 07 sedan and that car is excellent also.

by the way bobby and nsmitchell are you guys on FF?

here is pics of the cars.
http://home.comcast.net/~koutsoulis/P910002323.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~koutsoulis/P910002222.jpg

[Kal-El]

A Fit Sport w/nav is $19,430 (w/destination)! :thumbdown:

An Accord starts a just $1K more! :confused:

Never mind that it is priced alongside the Civic that is also supposed to be above it.

[bobby]

Drives/handles like a DREAM...I think I'm in love....:biggrin:

[zer0sk8ordie]

dang the orange is dooope!!

my fit and my girls yaris..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v705/zer0sk8ordie/img1224971173944.jpg

[madyaris]

More pics of the new S!!!

Or at least of your girl :eek: :cool:


dang the orange is dooope!!

my fit and my girls yaris..

[Stargate YARlantIS]

I saw one on the road last night. A wave of jealousy washed over me as that's a pretty nice car. Then I got home, turned around, looked at my car and then I felt great about my previous decisions. Just needed to be reminded of what I got and the price I got it for ;). Sorry, but personally, I take the stylings of the Yaris over the Fit any day of the week.

No kids, 2 door > 4 door imo


I totally agree...

Stylings Yaris > Fit

No kids 2 door> 4door :

:thumbsup:

[Bob_VT]

Nice car but I'm not running out to buy one. Good luck with it.

Can the Nav be adjusted and programed while driving? There are "hacks" and fixes for the Toyota units so you can.

[bobby]

As of today (26/10/08) I have not had enough time in the car with the nav system to answer that question, but it seems fairly easy to use, and intuitive. The screen is large, and very easy to see. So far, I LOOOOOVE it...will update soon!

[Bob_VT]

As of today (26/10/08) I have not had enough time in the car with the nav system to answer that question, but it seems fairly easy to use, and intuitive. The screen is large, and very easy to see. So far, I LOOOOOVE it...will update soon!

Get your ass off the computer and get out there and drive! What the hell are you waiting for....... bumper to bumper traffic!:biggrin:

[roxy1]

Exactly why I am driving a Yaris and not a Fit- one fit my budget and the other didn't. If I wanted to spend that much I'd also have looked at a Corolla.

that is exactly what i did. i was looking for a more sedate ride (road/engine noise) and overall comfort. with the telescoping wheel, i found the 09 corolla very comfortable and quiet for an eco car. i drove a fit, too. not as quiet and actually costs more than the corolla that i got.($15200) to keep the price of the fit near that, i would neet the manual transmission base model.

i didnt like that ithe manual fit was rated 33 mpg highway. its odd that only the base model automatic fit is rated 35 mph highway. all the manual transmission fits are rated at 33 mpg. all the sport models (auto and manual) are rated at 33 mpg. i found too many people on the fit forums getting mid to upper 30's hwy mileage. three tanks on the corolla right at 40 mpg, and a comfortable, quiet ride. i still did better with my yaris by about 2-3 mpg's, but my body is so much more comfortable.

if you want to know about yaris resale, get this: i bought the yaris new in june 2007 for $12800. 1 year and 3 months later and 21k miles and i got $11,100 trade in value. this was not in lieu of fiddling with the corolla price, which i got for $300 over invoice. i may have sold it for more privately, but not by much. for me it was worth avoiding the hassle.

[bobby]

The Corolla is a fine car, but too sedate. It kinda looks like a rental car, or a car driven by a retiree. A bit dull for my taste...

[stuffy]

the 09 fit is an incredible car- if this version of the car had been available in late 05 when i got the yaris...i wouldn't be driving a yaris.

i still think the yaris is a great little car, but this new fit is better-you pay a bit more but get a lot more car. plus, honda copied the ingenious placement of the yaris's cup holder!

this fit is could probably compete with the matrix in interior space with fuel economy similar to the yaris.

i didn't totally agree with all of the hype surrounding the old fit, but this one i do.

[nsmitchell]

I'm on FitFreak as HarrisonGreeleyIII. hehe A little Mr. Show character.

The '09 Fit is a phenomenon. The aerodynamics allow it to kick butt in the MPG arena.

Toyota should do some homework. The Yaris with a more aerodynamic front end would rock some MPGs.

I think it would be cool if you could get different front noses as options.

[roxy1]

I'm on FitFreak as HarrisonGreeleyIII. hehe A little Mr. Show character.

The '09 Fit is a phenomenon. The aerodynamics allow it to kick butt in the MPG arena.

Toyota should do some homework. The Yaris with a more aerodynamic front end would rock some MPGs.


HUH? allow it to kick who's butt in mpg? the chevy aveo? the fit has a drag coefficient of .30, which is good. the yaris sedan and hatch have drag coefficients of .29, even better. even the 09 corolla has a better cd at .29 as well. the yaris is quite aerodynamic.

all variants of the yaris are rated with at least 35 mpg, with the stick rated at 36 mpg. the ONLY fit rated at 35 mpg is the automatic base model. the stick base model fit is rated at 33 mpg. the sport fit (both auto and manual) are also rated at 33 mpg ( the body cladding/weight/transmission? likely hurts the mpg for the sport model by messing up the aerodynamics/gearing.)

i mean, c'mon. some of the fit variants actually went from 34 mpg in the 08 model to the current 33 mpg in the 09 model.

the reason i originally bought the yaris over the fit was due to the propensity of yaris owners to cosnsistently get 40+ mpg without much effort and the lack of consistency in fit owners reported mileage.

so, to rephrase: the yaris' aerodynamics allow it to kick butt in the mpg arena. honda should do their homework. a more aerodynamic fit could rock some mpg's.

[custom Lftback]

HUH? allow it to kick who's butt in mpg? the chevy aveo? the fit has a drag coefficient of .30, which is good. the yaris sedan and hatch have drag coefficients of .29, even better. even the 09 corolla has a better cd at .29 as well. the yaris is quite aerodynamic.

all variants of the yaris are rated with at least 35 mpg, with the stick rated at 36 mpg. the ONLY fit rated at 35 mpg is the automatic base model. the stick base model fit is rated at 33 mpg. the sport fit (both auto and manual) are also rated at 33 mpg ( the body cladding/weight/transmission? likely hurts the mpg for the sport model by messing up the aerodynamics/gearing.)

i mean, c'mon. some of the fit variants actually went from 34 mpg in the 08 model to the current 33 mpg in the 09 model.

the reason i originally bought the yaris over the fit was due to the propensity of yaris owners to cosnsistently get 40+ mpg without much effort and the lack of consistency in fit owners reported mileage.

so, to rephrase: the yaris' aerodynamics allow it to kick butt in the mpg arena. honda should do their homework. a more aerodynamic fit could rock some mpg's.

wow, someone knows their stuff! :clap:
Yaris is the car that all (non-hybrid's) should be compared to for mpg's, because it rocks the competition!!

[PaidTimeOff]

What common opinion? I doubt the xB's resale value is due to its looks. A box on wheels is a box on wheels.

Then what would you attribute the resale value to? Looks aren't everything, but if the car doesn't look nice, nobody's going to buy it. And personally, I like the boxy looks of the car. It's unique and incredibly practical. And like I said, common opinion (meaning people that actually buy the cars) dictate the resale values. This isn't conjecture, the link I provided is hard evidence.

[foober]

The fit looks just like the yaris. If the yaris wasn't so well built and a toyota I'd have bought a fit. But Toyota in my opinion still makes a better built vehicle. As a mechanic friend said to me. Toyota puts more metal into what they build and their tolerances are more refined.

As gas milage goes. I still get 40+ with both my yaris's.

[PetersRedYaris]

A Fit Sport w/nav is $19,430 (w/destination)! :thumbdown:

An Accord starts a just $1K more! :confused:

Never mind that it is priced alongside the Civic that is also supposed to be above it.

Funny you should say this, because a fully loaded Yaris cost the same as a Corolla or Matrix, and the Camry base model comes in at just a few thousand more. What exactly was your point?

Fully loaded yaris or a Fit Sport (No nav), same price, the Fit is MORE car...

If you don't like it (or Honda), just say it... Both economy cars are becoming less economy priced.

[niko3257]

Funny you should say this, because a fully loaded Yaris cost the same as a Corolla or Matrix, and the Camry base model comes in at just a few thousand more. What exactly was your point?

Fully loaded yaris or a Fit Sport (No nav), same price, the Fit is MORE car...

If you don't like it (or Honda), just say it... Both economy cars are becoming less economy priced.



well said:clap:
i couldn't agree with you more.


as for MPG the yaris has a leg up but not by much.
might be because of ot's dohc vs the fits sohc
or it might be that the fit for 09 has 117 hp vs yaris
what is it exactly 106 hp i think.
everyone know more hp means less mpg.
also if nobody doesn't know the fit manual trans for 09
got over hauled for more zippy driving.
which means bad gas milage.
so many factor i don't know either.
also anyone looking at the ratings don't it's all bull.
everyone drives different. i get over 40+ mpg on my Fit.
just depends on how you drive.
for instance when i drove harsh i got 35 mpg
then another time i drove harsh i got 37 mpg.
i drove easy and got 43 mpg.

the yaris saden i got i drove easy i got 42 mpg.
i drove harsh i got 33 mpg.

so far these are my finding. coming from a guy
who has both cars.

[niko3257]

HUH? allow it to kick who's butt in mpg? the chevy aveo? the fit has a drag coefficient of .30, which is good. the yaris sedan and hatch have drag coefficients of .29, even better. even the 09 corolla has a better cd at .29 as well. the yaris is quite aerodynamic.

all variants of the yaris are rated with at least 35 mpg, with the stick rated at 36 mpg. the ONLY fit rated at 35 mpg is the automatic base model. the stick base model fit is rated at 33 mpg. the sport fit (both auto and manual) are also rated at 33 mpg ( the body cladding/weight/transmission? likely hurts the mpg for the sport model by messing up the aerodynamics/gearing.)

i mean, c'mon. some of the fit variants actually went from 34 mpg in the 08 model to the current 33 mpg in the 09 model.

the reason i originally bought the yaris over the fit was due to the propensity of yaris owners to cosnsistently get 40+ mpg without much effort and the lack of consistency in fit owners reported mileage.

so, to rephrase: the yaris' aerodynamics allow it to kick butt in the mpg arena. honda should do their homework. a more aerodynamic fit could rock some mpg's.



I'd like to know where you got your info from on the drag coefficient of .30 for the fit?
cause i have been searching since before the car was on sale in the us.
I know all the people on FF would like to know also. cause they can't find
it. please state your source.

[imperial4ever]

I hope you can enjoy it but for me it still looks like a minivan.


That is what is keeping me from buying the fit......

[bobby]

There is not one car on the road that EVERYBODY is going to like. I happen to love the looks of the Yaris hatch, and I also happen to love the looks of my new 2009 Phit Sport w/Nav. I have never owned a car which is so well-designed, safe, and so space efficient! It has room FOR DAYS! I love the "magic seats" which allow the back seats to easily flip UP, giving you all the room on the flat floor. Those Honda engineers are SMART! :biggrin:

[voodoo22]

I like the new Honda FIT more than the previous and I like both of them overall, better than the Yaris, but I'm not paying 2-3,000 more for a car similarly equipped to our Yaris which also gets worse FE. This car segment is all about saving money for most people and until Honda Canada puts their prices inline with the Yaris, they will continue to lose sales based on price and FE alone.

[roxy1]

[QUOTE=niko3257;157745]I'd like to know where you got your info from on the drag coefficient of .30 for the fit?
QUOTE]

i went here:

http://automobiles.honda.com/information/customer-relations.aspx

i called them ealier this year when i was looking into the fit and the corolla as my next car. i also could find absolutely nothing about the cd on the fit, which i found odd since its not hard to find this info somewhere on most cars. the person i spoke with could not answer my question, so took my email and said she would get the answer from a tech person. i got an email about 2 or 3 days later. admittedly. it was something to the effect of "thank you for your inquiry. it appears the drag coeffieint for the new fit is .30."

in fairness, perhaps i should not have stated it as a pure fact.

to be honest, i wasnt too confident in the validity of that answer, but at the time i figured it must be one reason why the fit wasn't rated higher on the highway. if the fit was more slippery than a yaris, why would none of the fits be rated as high as the yaris manual, and only one of the fits (the base auto) be rated as high as the auto yaris? also take into account the the automatic base fit runs at lower rpm's on the highway than the yaris automatic, so something is keeping the highway mpg from being any higher.

i understand that frontal area may play a role in additon to the cd, so perhaps the fit is taller and/or wider than the yaris. or maybe its more simple (i.e. the yaris engine is just more fuel efficient than the fit engine)

it may be nitpicking, since i think driving style will dictate who gets 40 mpg and who gets 35 mpg given the same route. i believe if i drove any fit, i could achieve very close to the same numbers as i do in my corolla and at least come very close to what i did in my yaris.

[nsmitchell]

Folks - Please - Listen. My '09 Fit Sport is rated at 28 CITY and 33 HWY.

I am getting well into the 40s on the highway. Better than my Yaris LB at the same speeds on the same highways. I don't know how to be more clear. FIT > YAIRS in MPG. Many folks on FitFreak are reporting similar MPGs. http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-present/30682-any-mpg-reports-yet.html

Toyota needs to wake up and smell the coffee that Honda is stealing from them.

Honda has made a more refined car, with better HP, room and MPG. Granted at a few $1000 more. It also has better options like - Cruise control, NAV, TCS, VSC, 7 airbags standard. Come on...

The Yaris is cute compared to the Fit, but the fit is a way better car in every other aspect.

[roxy1]

this is interesting. out of curiosity, i decided to see if i could get linked directly to a technical support person at honda. so, i called the above referenced contact number. the rep put me on hold to see what she could find out from a tech person, but would not let me speak directly to one. after about 4 minutes, she came back and read this, verbatim, to me:

"Because of the many different methods of calculating drag coefficients, Honda Motor Corporation chooses not to publish these numbers."

i guess that is the reason why nobody can find this information on the net. i have found this info on every car i have researched except the fit, though i was provided with a cd number for the 09 fit (as discussed above) this summer. ive seen cd numbers on older civics. its an odd stance they are taking on this.

[roxy1]

Folks - Please - Listen. My '09 Fit Sport is rated at 28 CITY and 33 HWY.

I am getting well into the 40s on the highway. Better than my Yaris LB at the same speeds on the same highways. I don't know how to be more clear. FIT > YAIRS in MPG. Many folks on FitFreak are reporting similar MPGs.

Toyota needs to wake up and smell the coffee that Honda is stealing from them.

Honda has made a more refined car, with better HP, room and MPG. Granted at a few $1000 more. It also has better options like - Cruise control, NAV, TCS, VSC, 7 airbags standard. Come on...

The Yaris is cute compared to the Fit, but the fit is a way better car in every other aspect.

i agree the fit is an overall better car. it should also cost more than a yaris.

the facts are: the yaris is rated higher in mpg than the fit. many yaris owners are getting outrageous highway mileage. i do not hypermile and i got an average of 42.38 mpg's (over a 13 month period) on a suburban commute which included traffic lights and stop signs, and 3 months of that was michigan winter.

there are too many 09 fit owners who are not achieving great mileage. i have found , more consistently, yaris owners who get great mileage.

bottom line. the fit is an overall better car. it should be as it costs a fair amount more than a yaris. the yaris beats the fit more consistently in mpg.

i have a couple friends who drive fits (2007 and 2009 models). it seems that they cant accept that the yaris beats the fit at one single thing. they both paid $4000 more than i paid for my yaris ($12800). i tell them its ok, to accept that they paid more and got a better car with a bit fewer mpgs....and RELAX... if you wanted a cheaper car with higher mpg's..should have bought the yaris.

[nsmitchell]

I have gotten great highway miles in my Yaris. Over 46MPG. You could see my posts except for the YW site crash. The only thing is my Fit got 46.6mpg on the highway using cruise control at 65MPH. My scanguage tells me that my Yaris just can't pull those numbers unless I'm hypermiling. If I hypermiled the Fit it would most likly get in the 50s, which I only got once in my Yaris, going 55MPH with cruise control on a fairly flat highway.

The Fit's 5 speed auto may be responsible for the great MPGs.

[niko3257]

i don't know where you guys are getting these figures from?
this is as per honda site usa.
base fit mt 14,550
base fit at 15,350
sport fit mt 16,060
sport fit at 16,910

as per toyota site which only had these
base yaris 3 door mt 13,715
base yaris 5 door at 15,174
no sport manual to compare?
sport yaris at 17,874

now these toyota figures are configured to match
what the fit has. but yaris still doesn't have enough
option to compare exactly.
there is no base 5 door manual either so i used 3 door.
as you can see numbers are really close.
and to those buying sport 5 doors you are paying more.
17,874 yaris vs. 16,910 fit.
thats a total 964 difference.:eyebulge:
thats some rims to me. i don't know about you.:wink:

[nsmitchell]

i don't know where you guys are getting these figures from?
this is as per honda site usa.
base fit mt 14,550
base fit at 15,350
sport fit mt 16,060
sport fit at 16,910

as per toyota site which only had these
base yaris 3 door mt 13,715
base yaris 5 door at 15,174
no sport manual to compare?
sport yaris at 17,874

now these toyota figures are configured to match
what the fit has. but yaris still doesn't have enough
option to compare exactly.
there is no base 5 door manual either so i used 3 door.
as you can see numbers are really close.
and to those buying sport 5 doors you are paying more.
17,874 yaris vs. 16,910 fit.
thats a total 964 difference.:eyebulge:
thats some rims to me. i don't know about you.:wink:

Yep, and a 09 Fit Sport already has sweet alloy rims, and is lowered enough so as to not need a lowering kit. It already handles like a dream.

I know I'm getting a unpopular around here from all the Fit talk, but I'm just amazed at how great the car is. My little Yaris just doesn't compare AT ALL. I hate to say it, but it's quite true. I can't even say the Yaris gets better MPGs, beecause it doesn't.

[gid]

many people here are bullheaded :bonk: and narrow sighted :moon: . Why such hatred over the car you drive is beyond me . IT'S A CAR :rolleyes: !!! Show some :respekt: . :biggrin:

[bobby]

I love my new Phit too! Owning both the Yaris (which I still love, so don't jump down my throat!) and now the Phit I can tell you without any hesitation that the Phit is a better car. It is quieter, it handles better, brakes shorter, is safer, and has much more useable room inside.

I also love the orange color. Do you?

[blktiger60]

Folks - Please - Listen. My '09 Fit Sport is rated at 28 CITY and 33 HWY.

I am getting well into the 40s on the highway. Better than my Yaris LB at the same speeds on the same highways. I don't know how to be more clear. FIT > YAIRS in MPG. Many folks on FitFreak are reporting similar MPGs. http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/2nd-generation-ge-08-present/30682-any-mpg-reports-yet.html

Toyota needs to wake up and smell the coffee that Honda is stealing from them.

Honda has made a more refined car, with better HP, room and MPG. Granted at a few $1000 more. It also has better options like - Cruise control, NAV, TCS, VSC, 7 airbags standard. Come on...

The Yaris is cute compared to the Fit, but the fit is a way better car in every other aspect.

You may get 40 MPG but I can gaurantee you if I was driving, it wouldn't - period.

[blktiger60]

I love my new Phit too! Owning both the Yaris (which I still love, so don't jump down my throat!) and now the Phit I can tell you without any hesitation that the Phit is a better car. It is quieter, it handles better, brakes shorter, is safer, and has much more useable room inside.

I also love the orange color. Do you?

No, I don't.

And the 4 door thing, um ya - NO.

[PaidTimeOff]

Granted at a few $1000 more.

This is where the FiT loses me. If I had a few thousand more to spend, I wouldn't have been looking at subcompacts.

[Carrot Top]

This is where the FiT loses me. If I had a few thousand more to spend, I wouldn't have been looking at subcompacts.

I would of bought the Matrix instead of the Yaris, simply for the extra space. I LOVE hatchbacks, I'm not a sedan kinda girl. I do really like my experiences with Toyota so far.

[PaidTimeOff]

I have gotten great highway miles in my Yaris. Over 46MPG. You could see my posts except for the YW site crash. The only thing is my Fit got 46.6mpg on the highway using cruise control at 65MPH. My scanguage tells me that my Yaris just can't pull those numbers unless I'm hypermiling. If I hypermiled the Fit it would most likly get in the 50s, which I only got once in my Yaris, going 55MPH with cruise control on a fairly flat highway.

The Fit's 5 speed auto may be responsible for the great MPGs.

Just curious, were these numbers the ones posted on your FiT realtime mpg screen, actual fill-up calculation, or did you plug in your scanguage to test?

[roxy1]

if you look at the mileage forum for the new fit over at fit freak, youve got all kinds of folks sayin, "im happy, i got 42 mpg on my computer." from the looks of things, the fit computer mileage is way off (4 mpg for many of them). so, there arent that many of them actual breaking 40 mpg in real life. im not bashing the fit. it is a terrific car. i almost traded my yaris for one, but in the end went with the more sedate, comfortable (for me) ride of the corolla, with just as good, or better, mpg's from all the data i could find from real drivers and from my real life experience after 3 tanks. im just adding a little reality to the hyperbole.

[Bob_VT]

if you look at the mileage forum for the new fit over at fit freak, youve got all kinds of folks sayin, "im happy, i got 42 mpg on my computer." from the looks of things, the fit computer mileage is way off (4 mpg for many of them). so, there arent that many of them actual breaking 40 mpg in real life. im not bashing the fit. it is a terrific car. i almost traded my yaris for one, but in the end went with the more sedate, comfortable (for me) ride of the corolla, with just as good, or better, mpg's from all the data i could find from real drivers and from my real life experience after 3 tanks. im just adding a little reality to the hyperbole.

Yup honda is known for having accuracy problems. Remember when they got busted for having the odometers running too fast and making cars go out of warranty faster. They had to notify 6 million owners :eek: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-02-19-odometer-usat_x.htm Which makes people think they are getting better MPG.

[nsmitchell]

Just curious, were these numbers the ones posted on your FiT realtime mpg screen, actual fill-up calculation, or did you plug in your scanguage to test?

The 46.6 MPG was actual, at the pump, calculation. 242 miles using 5.2 gallons. 46.53 actually. My built in gauge showed 44 MPG. I didn't use my Scanguage, didn't need to since it's built in. Very Cool. :thumbup:

I can tell you the Fit will get better MPGs because I've done this same trip to Harrisonburg before and did't get 46.6 MPG in my Yaris. With cruise control my Yaris pulls about 40 to 42MPG on this trip. In the city I'm seeing roughly the same MPGs. Between 30-34MPG in both the Fit and the Yaris.

[bobby]

I LOVE MY PHIT MORE & MORE EACH DAY.

I made a gooooooood choice! :biggrin:

[nsmitchell]

if you look at the mileage forum for the new fit over at fit freak, youve got all kinds of folks sayin, "im happy, i got 42 mpg on my computer." from the looks of things, the fit computer mileage is way off (4 mpg for many of them). so, there arent that many of them actual breaking 40 mpg in real life. im not bashing the fit. it is a terrific car. i almost traded my yaris for one, but in the end went with the more sedate, comfortable (for me) ride of the corolla, with just as good, or better, mpg's from all the data i could find from real drivers and from my real life experience after 3 tanks. im just adding a little reality to the hyperbole.

Yep, that's a fact. The Fit's MPG computer is off. I don't know how it calculates but it needs work. The Scanguage can be tweaked each time you fill up, thus it can be very accurate. Mine is accurate to 1/10 of a gallon consistently. In my previous post my MPG calculator was actually under the real MPG number. Weird.

I can't wait to do another trip in the Fit. I may go to Charlottesville tomorrow, but that's only 130 miles round trip. My wife drives it most of the time! :frown: I wanna Fit!

[nsmitchell]

I LOVE MY PHIT MORE & MORE EACH DAY.

I made a gooooooood choice! :biggrin:
You are one crazy guy! Crazy like a fox!:laugh:

[PetersRedYaris]

Yup honda is known for having accuracy problems. Remember when they got busted for having the odometers running too fast and making cars go out of warranty faster. They had to notify 6 million owners :eek: http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-02-19-odometer-usat_x.htm Which makes people think they are getting better MPG.

This is true, I was notified about our 2006 Civic. But what's strange is the speed indicated on the digital speedometer (at interstate speeds) matches my Garmin GPS exactly. So my mileage was never off to begin with... :iono:

Also, mileage indicators in cars have always been known to be optimistic. What's really cool in the Fit though, is the immediate mileage indicator. Most people don't know how to drive their car to acheive maximum mileage, but this makes it fool proof. Every car should have one... Are you listening Toyota?

[gid]

was that not an issue for another car manufacturer as well ? Think it may have been NISSAN .

[voodoo22]

In Canada there was no contest when I priced out a Yaris and a Fit. Just over 17 for the Yaris, just over 19 for the Fit. Add into that fray that the Fit didn't qualify for the $1000 eco rebate from the government (because it doesn't get as good of FE as the Yaris), and that was a price difference of over 15%.

If you like the Fit more and can justify the extra money for it than you made the right choice. For people only concerned about economy the Yaris is the clear winner.

Maybe the Fit does do better on gas if you're not driving for FE, but if I wasn't driving for FE I wouldn't have bought a Yaris. This is where Honda needs to wake up and design their economy cars for FE or at least offer a Fit which can do better on gas without the ridiculous gearing, for people who are buying an economy car for economical reason.

[Mikeb Yaris]

Maybe the Fit does do better on gas if you're not driving for FE, but if I wasn't driving for FE I wouldn't have bought a Yaris. This is where Honda needs to wake up and design their economy cars for FE or at least offer a Fit which can do better on gas without the ridiculous gearing, for people who are buying an economy car for economical reason.

I think this is important, but it also works both ways. The general population DOES NOT drive for FE. They don't want to fool with it. They want a car that gets great numbers while not inconveniencing them. The downside of this seems to be that those who have fun driving for FE can't, but it seems that we're a small enough demographic to not worry so much with.

In the grand scheme of things, it would be better, particularly in America, to have cars that are efficient for sloppy drivers than to have cars that are most efficient when driven for that. You know, a million cars regularly getting 35 mpg driving like a teenager is way better than 250,000 cars capable of 40 when driven like you aren't wishing you were a street racer ala paddle shifters on an economy car.

[gootziecat]

The Fit is a great car. I had a deposit on an '09, the key word being had. The Fit has questionable mpgs with so many people depending on their built in Honda scan gauge, which is generally inaccurate. This is according to folks on the Fit Forum, not my opinion. In past years with the Fit, mpgs were all over the place, more so than with the Yaris. That isn't to say some Fits will get outstanding mpgs or even that I may be proven wrong with time.
I really like the Fit and felt the interior was superior to the Yaris. Personally, I think Toyota should hang its head in shame in this department. I needed the additional room of the Fit as well. But as soon as I test drove the new Fit, it was evident the suspension had been changed dramatically. While it drove smoother than the '08, it didn't feel like it had the cornering stability to me. Considering the past mpg record of the Yaris, (my preferred) handling ability, and price, I now own a '09 5 dr Yaris LB.
We can argue which vehicle is the better, but I think they're both great in their own right. It's all a matter of personal preference and values. I'm happy for all of you that feel you made the right choice.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Is Sentra 2.0 real pile of doo doo? Any one drive one - the quality did not look too good when you look at it casually?

[PETERPOOP]

Don't believe the mpg gauge in the fits. They are wrong.

[nsmitchell]

Is Sentra 2.0 real pile of doo doo? Any one drive one - the quality did not look too good when you look at it casually?

Is that a Nissan? It is. Then yes it's a pile of doo doo. hehe

[nsmitchell]

Don't believe the mpg gauge in the fits. They are wrong.
You are absolutely right. Those gauges are off pretty much all of the time by 2 to 4 MPG.

[Jem_hadar]

If you don't like it (or Honda), just say it...

+1

There's a lot of hating simply bc its NOT a toyota (yaris)

lol, which is lame. period.



from the looks of things, the fit computer mileage is way off (4 mpg for many of them).

It is. Usually by 2-4 mpg it seems (per fitfreak). One needs to really state their CALCULATED mpg (not the fit computer generated ones!). do it the old fashioned way... tracking kms and L to fill.

[bobby]

I'm not too obsessive about FE...my Phit seems to be getting very good mileage, and that's great. Beyond that, it is quiet, handles like a dream, and makes me very happy every time I start it up! Love it!!

[nsmitchell]

I does handle well. Feels a little bit like a sports car. It has a harsh ride when going over bumps. I guess that is the stiff suspension. I love the alloys and would not think of changing them ever.

[TheSilkySmooth]

Is that a Nissan? It is. Then yes it's a pile of doo doo. hehe How do you know - you have friend with one or see reliability data? That is good question! Is there a free web site with 'long term reliability data' I know consumer jewish reports but not others maybe more relevant market researchers. Edwards?

[bobby]

Consumer Reports is a great resource to check vehicle reliability. I'd never buy a car w/o looking at CR to see which cars are rated highly for reliability. Both the Yaris & the Phit (the two cars I own) are rated by CR to be 'much better than average' in reliability.

[marcus]

I CHECKED OUT THE FIT LAST WEEKEND.. OPEN THE DOOR AND CLOSED IT RIGHT AWAY.. the handle on the door alone and the door itself felt so thin...it feels like i can bend it out of shape..felt like the old civic... thumbs down.. although i love the fits steering wheel...

[bobby]

...then don't buy one. I loooooooove my Phit!! It is unquestionably the gold standard for so-called economy cars. I made a very good choice, I feel. Cool color too! :biggrin:

[PaidTimeOff]

...then don't buy one. I loooooooove my Phit!! It is unquestionably the gold standard for so-called economy cars. I made a very good choice, I feel. Cool color too! :biggrin:

Unquestionably? Seems like there are a lot of people questioning...

[PaidTimeOff]

i don't know where you guys are getting these figures from?
this is as per honda site usa.
base fit mt 14,550
base fit at 15,350
sport fit mt 16,060
sport fit at 16,910

as per toyota site which only had these
base yaris 3 door mt 13,715
base yaris 5 door at 15,174
no sport manual to compare?
sport yaris at 17,874

now these toyota figures are configured to match
what the fit has. but yaris still doesn't have enough
option to compare exactly.
there is no base 5 door manual either so i used 3 door.
as you can see numbers are really close.
and to those buying sport 5 doors you are paying more.
17,874 yaris vs. 16,910 fit.
thats a total 964 difference.:eyebulge:
thats some rims to me. i don't know about you.:wink:

Website =/= individual dealership prices. Lots of people are getting their numbers from dealerships that they've visited. Dealerships are franchises and are able to determine their own prices according to demand in their specific areas. Also, let's not forget tax, documentation, delivery, dealer specific add-ons, etc.

[Jem_hadar]

In Canada there was no contest when I priced out a Yaris and a Fit. Just over 17 for the Yaris, just over 19 for the Fit.

$19,280 for the manual Fit SPORT. ($20,480 for the auto)

How much does the Yaris RS cost? $18,815 for the manual ($20,165 for the auto)

So thats a difference of $465 for the stick, and only $315 for the auto.

What's are these comments abt "all the extra money" the Fit costs over the Yaris? $300-500 is hardly a hefty premium. In fact, when you consider all the other nice, amazing things the new Fit has over the Yaris, there's no premium at all. That $400 is the cost of all the other features the Fit gets you over a Yaris on their respective top of the line models!

Jem


EDIT:

OK, just read this post:
Website =/= individual dealership prices. Lots of people are getting their numbers from dealerships that they've visited. Dealerships are franchises and are able to determine their own prices according to demand in their specific areas. Also, let's not forget tax, documentation, delivery, dealer specific add-ons, etc.

And thats a good point I hadnt thought abt per se, since all the Honda and Toyota dealerships here in Collingwood and Barrie, Ontario are listing at stated online listed price. We arent seeing dealerships marking the prices up. Man, sucks that some (many?) are having to deal w/ that though. Seems strange to me, wouldnt like that at all.

[bobby]

Since I own a 2007 as well as a 2009 Phit, I can tell you that unquestionably that the Phit is a better car. It's safer, handles better (stock), the seats are more comfortable, it's more powerful, and offers a Nav system which is incredible. I love the Yaris, but I loooooooove the Phit! :wink:

[marcus]

...then don't buy one. I loooooooove my Phit!! It is unquestionably the gold standard for so-called economy cars. I made a very good choice, I feel. Cool color too! :biggrin:

easy there..got nothing against it..well actually i do,,, im just telling sum people some of the downside... engine wise id say the fit is better.. again steering wheel is a plus... but that damn door is botherin me.. which it did bother me on the old civics as well .. but overall its ur car.. i think u did good job choosing the fit.. its a great car... i just cant past the shell being too thin.sorry bro.

[PaidTimeOff]

Since I own a 2007 as well as a 2009 Phit, I can tell you that unquestionably that the Phit is a better car. It's safer, handles better (stock), the seats are more comfortable, it's more powerful, and offers a Nav system which is incredible. I love the Yaris, but I loooooooove the Phit! :wink:

Sorry bobby, your suggestions (as educated as they may be) are still completely subjective. Most of us have weighed the ups and downs between the two (prices, options, etc.) and some of us feel that the Yaris is far superior to the Fit in most areas. You don't agree, and that's perfectly fine because it's all subjective. But to say that it's "unquestionably" the best car in its class is straight-up false.

Safer? Where are the numbers for this?

Handles better? Subjective

Seats more comfortable? Subjective, and you've probably never sat in an S model before.

NAV system offered? Yaris now has this option too.

[Stargate YARlantIS]

Bump PTO

[marcus]

also hes forgetting maybe that hes on a yaris forum..

[Stargate YARlantIS]

also hes forgetting maybe that hes on a yaris forum..

I'll second that Marcus!

[bobby]

Sorry bobby, your suggestions (as educated as they may be) are still completely subjective. Most of us have weighed the ups and downs between the two (prices, options, etc.) and some of us feel that the Yaris is far superior to the Fit in most areas. You don't agree, and that's perfectly fine because it's all subjective. But to say that it's "unquestionably" the best car in its class is straight-up false.

Safer? Where are the numbers for this?

Handles better? Subjective

Seats more comfortable? Subjective, and you've probably never sat in an S model before.

NAV system offered? Yaris now has this option too.


The seats may be a subjective opinion (they feel more supportive that the seats on the Yaris...after a long drive in the Yaris I had to have a chiropracter waiting for me when I arrived at my destination! I have not sat in an S model...I own a regular 2007 hatch, and that's what I'm comparing it to) but the Yaris just don't don't feel safe at high (60 miles an hour or more) speed, and Consumer Reports specifically points to that reason that they cannot recommend people buying the Yaris. They feel that the emergency handling on the Yaris is sub-par, and I agree. Consumer Reports feels that the Phit is a better car, and having owned BOTH, I must agree. It is a quieter car, there's more room in the back, and the "magic seats" which allow the back seats to flip UP, is such a great feature. The Phit has EIGHT airbags....how many does the Yaris have? Since the 2009 Phit has not been crash tested yet, I will be curious to how it does compared to the Yaris.

I am not aware that the Yaris offers a built-in Navigation system.

Has anybody read a magazine review or an online auto review which rates the Yaris as a better car than a Phit? If so, I'd like to see it. I have only read reviews which tout the Phit as an overal better car than the Yaris, and that has been my impression as well.

What can I say...I am becoming a Phit Phreak!:biggrin:

[marcus]

i think i should take my pop corn out this will be good.. i just like to watch..

[bobby]

also hes forgetting maybe that hes on a yaris forum..

No, I'm not. I own a Yaris, and I like it a lot. I also happen to now own a Phit, which I feel is a better car. I think there is room on this forum to compare the Yaris to other similar cars...don't you?

[PaidTimeOff]

No, I'm not. I own a Yaris, and I like it a lot. I also happen to now own a Phit, which I feel is a better car. I think there is room on this forum to compare the Yaris to other similar cars...don't you?

There's a difference between comparison and fanboyism. You're dangerously close to the latter.

[bobby]

I don't think I'm being a fanatic about the Phit, but I certainly am enthusiastic. It's a wonderful car.

Has anybody come across an auto magazine review or an online auto review which declares the Yaris is an overall better car than the Phit? I have not seen one.

The bottom line is, we all love Japanese cars, and would never be caught dead in an American car. (EWWWWW)

[PaidTimeOff]

It's one thing to be happy with a Fit over the Yaris, it's another thing to spout out false things comparing the two and not taking criticisms with an open mind. We're all here to share information, but if you want Honda fanboy praise for your Fit, we all know where you need to go for that.

This is YARISworld, not Fitworld, or even Subcompact(as in general)world.

and in regards to you saying you're not a fanatic?


What can I say...I am becoming a Phit Phreak!:biggrin:

Two posts ago... I'm just sayin' :rolleyes:

[Kal-El]

Funny you should say this, because a fully loaded Yaris cost the same as a Corolla or Matrix, and the Camry base model comes in at just a few thousand more. What exactly was your point?

Fully loaded yaris or a Fit Sport (No nav), same price, the Fit is MORE car...

If you don't like it (or Honda), just say it... Both economy cars are becoming less economy priced.

I love the Fit. It was in the running but I couldn't afford it. And Honda is my favorite company along with Toyota. In fact, I work at an Acura dealer full time.

I was just pointing out that almost $20k is just a bit too steep for most people interested in a sub-compact.

[gid]

this is why wars go on 'til this day ... . I think both cars are very good . The FIT is much smarter choice than a HUMMER or large S.U.V.s ( or should I say C.U.V., nothing more than rounded corners and lowered roof :rolleyes: ) , which I view as a true foe :slice: to the FIT , YARIS :biggrin: . The seats are better in the FIT , test drove several ( '07 and '08 ) and they are more comfortable . The seating arrangement for cargo is much better as well :thumbsup: . The sliding / split back seats should be standard feature like that of the XD , not an option with the power package to get more profit :rolleyes: .

[bobby]

:biggrin:

[stuffy]

it's pretty clear to me that honda has raised the bar as far as subcompacts are concerned with the release of the new fit,
the yaris is still a great car and when considering overall price (from sticker to operating costs) is still the better choice.

i think the future of subcompacts is that they will be outfitted with more of the amenities of larger, more expensive vehicles and people will pay for it in the name of better fuel economy,
the fit clearly is moving in this direction.

i don't think it's too subjective to say that the new 09 fit is the better car, but it is more expensive.

[marcus]

mpg = yaris is better
price overall = yaris is better
looks wise= yaris rear end is better..i kinna like the new front for the phit.
0-60= as far as i know the yaris can do 8.5 sec which is same as the new phit

now if we gonna talk about interior then the phit win that foh sure..

[voodoo22]

mpg = yaris is better
price overall = yaris is better
looks wise= yaris rear end is better..i kinna like the new front for the phit.
0-60= as far as i know the yaris can do 8.5 sec which is same as the new phit

now if we gonna talk about interior then the phit win that foh sure..

Good points.

I chose a car with what in my opinion is a less comfortable steering wheel made with what appears to me to be a little lower quality materials because when I'm buying an economy car total cost of ownership is the major deciding factor for me.

The Yaris costs less to:

buy
maintain
fuel

Buy what you want, but if I was buying a small car for it's fun value I would have bought a mini, which blows the Fit out of the water in every category which matters in a segment like that. In my opinion the Fit is a car with an identity crisis. It costs more than a Yaris, and is geared irresponsibly so that it gets worse fuel economy. The Fit has no where near the performance level or luxurious amenities as the Mini which costs more than the Fit.

If you're into compromise (or just like the Fit) the Fit is perfect, but if you want economy or luxury it's far from the best choice in the compact segment.

[blktiger60]

Good points.

I chose a car with what in my opinion is a less comfortable steering wheel made with what appears to me to be a little lower quality materials because when I'm buying an economy car total cost of ownership is the major deciding factor for me.

The Yaris costs less to:

buy
maintain
fuel

Buy what you want, but if I was buying a small car for it's fun value I would have bought a mini, which blows the Fit out of the water in every category which matters in a segment like that. In my opinion the Fit is a car with an identity crisis. It costs more than a Yaris, and is geared irresponsibly so that it gets worse fuel economy. The Fit has no where near the performance level or luxurious amenities as the Mini which costs more than the Fit.

If you're into compromise (or just like the Fit) the Fit is perfect, but if you want economy or luxury it's far from the best choice in the compact segment.
The mini doesn't compare to an MR2 and they are way cheaper in all aspects.

[bobby]

The Phit is an economy car...the Mini (much more expensive) is essentially a sports car. You're comparing apples & oranges. If you want to compare, you need to look at the Yaris, Versa, Aveo, Accent & Phit. The Mini (which I love, I think it's terribly cute) is in a different class.

[nsmitchell]

mpg = yaris is better
price overall = yaris is better
looks wise= yaris rear end is better..i kinna like the new front for the phit.
0-60= as far as i know the yaris can do 8.5 sec which is same as the new phit

now if we gonna talk about interior then the phit win that foh sure..
I think I have figured out the Yaris / Fit MPG Pros and Cons for AUTOMATICS ONLY, since that's what I own.

The Yaris seems to get better city MPGs when NOT hypermiling. Normal driving by normal people. (ie - Folks who would never want or use a ScanGuage, like my wife)

The Fit shines in MPGs on the Highway when NOT hypermiling.

The Fit has 5 gears with what seems to be overdrive as well since my RPMs will drop when cruising eventhough i'm already in 5th gear.

My Yaris, with cruise control wont get much above 40MPG at 65MPH.
The Fit just loves 65MPH and gets close to 50MPG at 60 MPH with cruise control.

If you do mostly highway travel, the Fit may be your buddy, by about 10MPG. If you are city mostly, the Yaris is the car for you.

[marcus]

i did not know that.. the new fit with 118hp can do 50mpg on hwy.. wow.. then again i did 45 mpg going 100 km/hr 95% on hwy on the way to camping last summer ..and thats me not using hypermill though..

[nsmitchell]

i did not know that.. the new fit with 118hp can do 50mpg on hwy.. wow.. then again i did 45 mpg going 100 km/hr 95% on hwy on the way to camping last summer ..and that sme not using hypermill though..

I got 46.6 MPG going through mountains with my Fit. This MPG was calculated at the pump, not using the Fit's MPG guage.

My jaw dropped to the ground when I calculated this.

I may be doing a Roanoke trip shortly so I can do another pure highway test. I will be going through rural highways with some lights. My Yaris has gotten wicked MPGs while hypermiling this route, like 46 MPG. This will be an interesting test.

[voodoo22]

The Phit is an economy car...the Mini (much more expensive) is essentially a sports car. You're comparing apples & oranges. If you want to compare, you need to look at the Yaris, Versa, Aveo, Accent & Phit. The Mini (which I love, I think it's terribly cute) is in a different class.

When we bought our Yaris an equally equipped Fit was a little less than 3000 more and a Mini was less than 3000 more than a Fit.

[voodoo22]

The mini doesn't compare to an MR2 and they are way cheaper in all aspects.

MR2's were fun cars, but they don't compare to the new Mini's in many regards except fun. The MR2 was a 2 seater mid engine car.

[voodoo22]

I think I have figured out the Yaris / Fit MPG Pros and Cons for AUTOMATICS ONLY, since that's what I own.

The Yaris seems to get better city MPGs when NOT hypermiling. Normal driving by normal people. (ie - Folks who would never want or use a ScanGuage, like my wife)

The Fit shines in MPGs on the Highway when NOT hypermiling.

The Fit has 5 gears with what seems to be overdrive as well since my RPMs will drop when cruising eventhough i'm already in 5th gear.

My Yaris, with cruise control wont get much above 40MPG at 65MPH.
The Fit just loves 65MPH and gets close to 50MPG at 60 MPH with cruise control.

If you do mostly highway travel, the Fit may be your buddy, by about 10MPG. If you are city mostly, the Yaris is the car for you.

Out of over 60 full tanks on our AT Yaris Sedan I've only had 3 tanks (39.8, 39.2 and 37.6) less than 40 US MPG and all of those tanks were driving 75 mph + on highway trips. I also have some over 40 MPG tanks driving those speeds.

My worst tank by far was driving 75 mph minimum and upwards to 80 mph on an entire tank in the rain and wind.

If I drove a steady 65 mph on my commute I would consistently get over 40 and closer to or over 44 MPG, If I drove 65 mph on a highway trip (so there would be no city driving) I would get closer to 47 MPG. If I drove a steady 60 mph in our Yaris sedan I would also get close to 50 MPG, maybe 47-49 MPG.

In my experience, our Yaris isn't capable of breaking 50 MPG on an entire tank without engaging in slower than 60 mph though(I drive 50 -55 to get those numbers), so if you're getting 50 mpg and going 60 mph, that is better than the Yaris. I haven't seen anyone else report numbers like that yet. This is great news for you and hopefully for all the new Fit owners. I just don't understand why I'm not seeing any other Fit owners on cleanmpg reporting numbers like this.

[nsmitchell]

voodoo - Were you using crusie or foot control. With Foot Control you can get better MPGs. I am using cruise control in both cars to be fair. Now I do have Michelin HydroEdge tires on my Yaris that are slightly wider than stock, so that may be affecting my MPGs. On my Yaris they are pumped to 44PSI. On my Fit I have not touched the stock tire pressure. Haven't even removed a valve stem cap. With the Fit Sports low profile tires, I don't think I'm going to inflate them over the reccomended PSI just for ride comfort. The Fit is a little rough over rough roads, but in a good way. :wink:

[voodoo22]

voodoo - Were you using crusie or foot control. With Foot Control you can get better MPGs. I am using cruise control in both cars to be fair. Now I do have Michelin HydroEdge tires on my Yaris that are slightly wider than stock, so that may be affecting my MPGs. On my Yaris they are pumped to 44PSI. On my Fit I have not touched the stock tire pressure. Haven't even removed a valve stem cap. With the Fit Sports low profile tires, I don't think I'm going to inflate them over the reccomended PSI just for ride comfort. The Fit is a little rough over rough roads, but in a good way. :wink:

That makes some more sense. I don't have cruise control. So you're possibly taking a double hit with cruise control and wider tires on your Yaris vs ours which is still on oem Bridgestones.

I know around here, it's just hilly enough that MPG would suffer a lot with cruise on, not so much in the prairies.

Thanks for helping me figure out what you're saying.

I'd still check your psi on your Fit if I was you. Who knows what whomever was smoking when they filled your tires. I just got the Yaris from an oil changed they pumped my tires between 30-36 psi.

[nsmitchell]

Good Point. My brother has a nice Craftsman digital tire gauge and I just bought a new tire pump.

[stuffy]

That makes some more sense. I don't have cruise control. So you're possibly taking a double hit with cruise control and wider tires on your Yaris vs ours which is still on oem Bridgestones.

I know around here, it's just hilly enough that MPG would suffer a lot with cruise on, not so much in the prairies.

Thanks for helping me figure out what you're saying.

I'd still check your psi on your Fit if I was you. Who knows what whomever was smoking when they filled your tires. I just got the Yaris from an oil changed they pumped my tires between 30-36 psi.

are your numbers all highway miles?

the best i've been able to achieve on the highway in my yaris (manual) is 45 mpg (u.s. gallon), that's travelling a top speed of 110 km/h

are you saying that you aren't adjusting your driving to get such good numbers?

[voodoo22]

are your numbers all highway miles?

the best i've been able to achieve on the highway in my yaris (manual) is 45 mpg (u.s. gallon), that's travelling a top speed of 110 km/h

are you saying that you aren't adjusting your driving to get such good numbers?

Most of my tanks are a majority of highway miles, but I have some where I've achieved high 40 US MPG in mostly heavy traffic in downtown Toronto. That does involve thinking about FE to achieve. Turning the car off at long lights, accelerating slowly and coasting to red lights.

However, my highway mileage often includes bumper to bumper traffic jams (you are probably familiar with the 401? I drive Markham Rd to Mississauga Rd, everyday to work). The worst one was last year, it took me 3 hours to get to work instead of the usual 40-50 minutes.

To get over 40 US MPG on highway driving takes no adjustment to my driving at all. I can get between 40-44 mpg (depending on other coniditions) even if I'm going 75 mph the majority of the time. Usually closer to 40 and a few times below that, but barely.

For me to get over 50 US MPG consistently I do have to drive slow, the weather has to be warm and I can't do much more than 50% city driving on a tank. Going over 55 mph very often, will kill a 50 + US MPG tank for me.

In the warm weather, you may be surprised how easy it is to get over 50 US MPG if you aren't driving all city, as long as you try to stay between 50-55mph and don't drive in the mountains like Bailout.

[stuffy]

Most of my tanks are a majority of highway miles, but I have some where I've achieved high 40 US MPG in mostly heavy traffic in downtown Toronto. That does involve thinking about FE to achieve. Turning the car off at long lights, accelerating slowly and coasting to red lights.

However, my highway mileage often includes bumper to bumper traffic jams (you are probably familiar with the 401? I drive Markham Rd to Mississauga Rd, everyday to work). The worst one was last year, it took me 3 hours to get to work instead of the usual 40-50 minutes.

To get over 40 US MPG on highway driving takes no adjustment to my driving at all. I can get between 40-44 mpg (depending on other coniditions) even if I'm going 75 mph the majority of the time. Usually closer to 40 and a few times below that, but barely.

For me to get over 50 US MPG consistently I do have to drive slow, the weather has to be warm and I can't do much more than 50% city driving on a tank. Going over 55 mph very often, will kill a 50 + US MPG tank for me.

In the warm weather, you may be surprised how easy it is to get over 50 US MPG if you aren't driving all city, as long as you try to stay between 50-55mph and don't drive in the mountains like Bailout.

i'd love to see how you get such good numbers in the city, i drive like a grandma, coast to lights, shut off engine on long lights but the highest i've gotten in the city is high 30's.

my trips are usually fairly short though, so this could be where i'm really taking a hit on the FE.

i can achieve the mid 40's on the highway, but not travelling faster than 110 km/h (that would be around 70 mph i think), anything over 110 my FE drops significantly.

i've had the yaris now for 3 years and have tracked the FE since the car was new, so i pretty much know what to expect depending on driving conditions and the time of year- that's why i found your numbers a bit high.

[KCALB SIRAY]

Fruit Fly

[voodoo22]

i'd love to see how you get such good numbers in the city, i drive like a grandma, coast to lights, shut off engine on long lights but the highest i've gotten in the city is high 30's.

my trips are usually fairly short though, so this could be where i'm really taking a hit on the FE.

i can achieve the mid 40's on the highway, but not travelling faster than 110 km/h (that would be around 70 mph i think), anything over 110 my FE drops significantly.

i've had the yaris now for 3 years and have tracked the FE since the car was new, so i pretty much know what to expect depending on driving conditions and the time of year- that's why i found your numbers a bit high.

Maybe I drive like a Grandma's Grandma?:redface:

That is one difference depending on what your idea of a short trip is, except for picking my wife up after work, I rarely drive on trips shorter than 60 km's round trip and my commute is a minimum 104 kms r/t.

I too have tracked the fuel mileage on our car since new over 60+ tanks and I know none of my numbers are aberrations as the Yaris has over 40k kms on it now. This past tank has been nearly 100% 401 driving and it looks like I have a chance to do well over 50 US MPG on winter tires going 80-90 km/h. I hit 712 km's when the 6th bar went away this morning. I've only had a couple short errands and haven't had to pick my wife up after work on this tank and I'm quite shocked with the numbers I appear to be getting on the winters. I can't tell if the numbers are accurate yet though as I don't have a scan guage and every now and then the fuel gauge on the Yaris seems to have a brain fart.

I don't feel I'm doing anything you aren't, but I'm sure some of this discrepancy could be chalked up to perhaps me usually doing longer trips than you?

[stuffy]

that's probably what it is, my city trips are probably under 20 km round trips.

i don't have a scanguage either, but you're probably going to get a more precise reading by just crunching the numbers after filling up-

i would like to try out a scangauge to see specifically what kind of driving is giving me the best FE, but to spend a couple hundred bucks on it is not worth it even in the long run.
it would be nice to buy one as a group and give everyone a month with it to help them improve their driving, then pass it on to the next person.

[SilverBack]

I'd choose my silver egg over any other car in it's class anyday. It's small, inexpensive, good on gas, reliable, ..and surprisingly a chick magnet (wasn't expecting that, but I'm not complaining:drool:)

[voodoo22]

that's probably what it is, my city trips are probably under 20 km round trips.

i don't have a scanguage either, but you're probably going to get a more precise reading by just crunching the numbers after filling up-

i would like to try out a scangauge to see specifically what kind of driving is giving me the best FE, but to spend a couple hundred bucks on it is not worth it even in the long run.
it would be nice to buy one as a group and give everyone a month with it to help them improve their driving, then pass it on to the next person.

That's my exact way of thinking. A scan guage isn't going to give enough of a benefit to pay for itself on our cars unless you were getting horrible numbers now and hopefully the next cars we have will have similar technology built into it.

[Jem_hadar]

Good points.
and is geared irresponsibly so that it gets worse fuel economy.
LOL. Way to make an over-the-top comment.

Its fuel economy is 1-2 mpgs off a Yaris (Canadian ratings anyways). And that equates to "irresponsible" gearing. C'mon hahahahaha that comment's a joke.

[voodoo22]

LOL. Way to make an over-the-top comment.

Its fuel economy is 1-2 mpgs off a Yaris (Canadian ratings anyways). And that equates to "irresponsible" gearing. C'mon hahahahaha that comment's a joke.

You could have worded your response in a much more mature way if you didn't understand where I was coming from.

My statement is only a joke if you think the Yaris' mileage should be the best in class. If Honda geared their cars better they could be rated better than a Yaris and have more potential than it currently has. They also would have qualified for $1000 back from the now defunct eco rebate program. If losing 1000's of sales over the past couple of years simply because of poor gearing choices is a joke, than that's some pretty bad humour.

[nsmitchell]

Yaris EPA Estimates are 29/35
Fit EPA Estimates are 28/35

1MPG off in the city... WOW! Not much difference there.

We all know these numbers are not real world, but it does mean they are close in MPGs.

[stuffy]

i did read that while the new fit has more horsepower, the engine is more efficient now and gets better fuel economy than the previous generation despite having more power.
i'm not sure what technical changes were made to achieve this.

[gid]

less emissions too :wink: . There's days I could use a catalytic converter . Especially after fast foods :burnrubber: . :flame: . Roll down that window !!! :eek:

[firemachine69]

i did read that while the new fit has more horsepower, the engine is more efficient now and gets better fuel economy than the previous generation despite having more power.
i'm not sure what technical changes were made to achieve this.

I believe they implemented dual-VTEC (sort of like how the Corolla has dual VVTI on both intake and exhaust sides).

[earljail]

The seats may be a subjective opinion (they feel more supportive that the seats on the Yaris...after a long drive in the Yaris I had to have a chiropracter waiting for me when I arrived at my destination!


I just drove (http://www.sfu.ca/~cpp1/north/index.html) 6826.4 kilometres, 4241.73 miles to Alaska, taking seven days. That is a lot of driving in so little time. At no point did my back hurt, and my back usually hurts. (like at work after a couple hours, or at the computer)

Obviously, your mileage may vary about the seats, but I didn't mind them at all, in my 2007 regular hatchback.

What can I say...I am becoming a Phit Phreak!:biggrin:

http://fitfreak.net/

You're not very original... :rolleyes:

[bobby]

Hey, Check out this recent Wall Street Journal review of the 2009 Phit. Apparently, the Phit is tops in its class. (Leave it to me to pick the best!) :thumbup:


http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122608623013409143.html


http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/autos/0806/gallery.2008_jdpower_apeal/2.html

[yarswiss]

How about comparing the international models of the car, instead of just the American version? More Yari and Jazz's (as the Fit is called overseas) are sold around the world than in the US.

Lets say we took the extremes of both:
Economy: Yaris 1.0l, 1.4l diesel vs. Jazz 1.2l. Yaris wins out here, as the Jazz is not offered in diesel, and the 1.0l is much better on FE than the smallest engine Honda offers in the Fit, which is 1.3l. 1.0l gets 56mpg imperial, while the 1.3l gets 53mpg imperial. Yes, it's unfair comparing these engines, as the yaris is also offered in the 1.3l form, but I'm comparing the lowest/smallest available engines.

Sport: Yaris TS 1.8l vs. Fit Sport 1.5l. 132hp vs. 117hp. Once again, comparison may seem unfair, but the comparison here is between the most powerful versions one can get.

Of course, we are comparing vehicles that aren't available here, but just for arguments sake, the Yaris is available in much more trims and engine choices than the Fit is.

Nevertheless, we are just comparing oranges to oranges here. These are both great, cheap, affordable economy hot hatches, made by reliable Japanese automakers, and if the new generation sucks, it sure is going to be improved in the future.

[bobby]

Why not just compare the cars we can buy here...?

[earljail]

Why not just compare the cars we can buy here...?

Because this is the Internet. There is no here. This is Yarisworld.com, not Yarisamerica.com.

[SIPNGAS]

Because this is the Internet. There is no here. This is Yarisworld.com, not Yarisamerica.com.

Very nice! :clap:

Great point...

[marcus]

burn!!!

[Latka]

I like the Fit. I like the Yaris. I also looked at the Hyundai Accent. I didn't fit in the Accent, so it's out. Next in terms of pricing is the Yaris. When I checked last week they actually had some in stock vs the Honda dealer that had the $20,000 model (ha!) on the showroom floor and *one* other. The more I look at the Yaris styling the more I like it. Can't wait to get my own.

[bobby]

Owning both the 2007 Yaris, and now the 2009 Phit Sport w/Navigation, and I can tell you honestly that although I do love the Yaris, the Phit is a vastly superior car in virtually every way.

[SIPNGAS]

So, why are you spelling it wrong?

Sorry, but you're on a Yaris forum..we kinda like these cars.

[KCALB SIRAY]

he can'r spell anyway, we all know that, lol....that's why he needs change

[SIPNGAS]

he can'r spell anyway, we all know that, lol....that's why he needs change

LMAO:bellyroll:

[specialeducator]

Owning both the 2007 Yaris, and now the 2009 Phit Sport w/Navigation, and I can tell you honestly that although I do love the Yaris, the Phit is a vastly superior car in virtually every way.

one word: price

[marcus]

"vastly superior car in virtually every way".. did i hear this right.. as far as i know is that no car is vastly superior to other cars, each car has something better compare to other cars.. unless its on the expensive end..

[Bob_VT]

he can'r spell anyway, we all know that, lol....that's why he needs change

BVD's :confused: But the skid marks are trademarked!

[bobby]

I love the Yaris....but I looooooooooooove my Phit Sport! :thumbup:

I may not spell well, but I do know a terrific car when I drive one...and the Phit is one hell of a car! :biggrin:

[marcus]

hehehe

[bobby]

Because I own a Yaris & love that too! :wink:

[Jem_hadar]

I like the Fit. I like the Yaris. I also looked at the Hyundai Accent.

I actually really like the exterior styling of the new 2door Hyundai accents. Very hot imo.

But the interior is boring and brtual IMO. i would not wanan hafta face that interior for 5+ years.

(but at that helluva good cash price of $10,000, whats to complain abt i guess? esp with that 5 year warranty too.)

[gid]

should be interesting with the 1.6 ltr. VERSA coming out soon . The 5 speed manual can be had for less than $10 grand , that's without A.C.. :evil: . Add another $1,000 or so for the A.C. and under $12,000 . May have to test drive one :burnrubber: .

[Latka]

The Fit got axed 'cause they don't make a 2dr Hatchback. Same with the Versa. :(

I like the Yaris. I'm really excited about gettin one for myself!

[bobby]

I like the looks of 2-door hatchbacks, but I've gotta tell you, the extra 2 doors on the Phit are so convenient! :wink:

[marcus]

this thread should be "BOBBY's SUPERIOR PHIT"

[KCALB SIRAY]

this thread should be "BOBBY's SUPERIOR PHIT FOR CHANGE"

[SIPNGAS]

LOL

Mikey, this is what I'm talking about.:wink:

[KCALB SIRAY]

ha, lol

[bobby]

this thread should be "BOBBY's SUPERIOR PHIT FOR CHANGE"


Frankly, I could not agree more. Let's get them to re-name it. It is a great suggestion! Thanks!:biggrin:

[SIPNGAS]

You keep showing the car in the dealer drive and not your own..how come?

[33OH]

I actually really like the exterior styling of the new 2door Hyundai accents. Very hot imo.

But the interior is boring and brtual IMO. i would not wanan hafta face that interior for 5+ years.

(but at that helluva good cash price of $10,000, whats to complain abt i guess? esp with that 5 year warranty too.)

I have a 2007 Hyundai Accent hatchback and it's a pretty decent car. Worse gas mileage than the Yaris (I get about 32-36 highway). The interior is boring and scuffs SO EASILY that it's annoying.

Here in Ohio they have a 20 year/200,000 mile warranty? weird.

[gid]

talked to an owner of a '08 (?) Chevy AVEO' ( Daewoo ) hatchback with the 4 speed automatic and claimed to average close to 36 m.p.g. . Must have a light foot . Do like the looks and the flip up rear seat for more room . The '08 hatch we drove had easy clutch , better than the YARIS . The '09 is cheesy looking :thumbdown:.

[bobby]

Much easier. :biggrin:

http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122608623013409143.html

Here's an inside shot w/the Nav system. (The Nav system is INCREDIBLE...easy to use/program...I love it!!) :smile:

[bobby]

You keep showing the car in the dealer drive and not your own..how come?


Well, it will NEVER look as good as the day I went to go pick it up. Knowing that, I brought along my trusty Nikon D60 & snapped a few pictures of it, to remember how great it looked that day.

I will take some more photos of it now that it has a lil' bird doo-doo on it. The one thing I never liked about my Yaris is the color. (I bought it because it was a great deal, in spite of not liking the color). With the Phit Sport, I was determined to get it EXACTLY how I wanted, with all the bells & whistles. Full power, Nav system, fog lights, electronic stability control, etc. etc. Also, I really REALLY love the color: Orange Revolution Metallic. Let's face it, it was TIME for a revolution, eh?

[KCALB SIRAY]

You keep showing the car in the dealer drive and not your own..how come?

socialist democratic propaganda:thumbsup:

[KCALB SIRAY]

oooo Bobby sent me another unwanted PM, let me go see what he wants

[SIPNGAS]

oooo Bobby sent me another unwanted PM, let me go see what he wants

Fabulous...what did he say?

Is he SCARY? :bellyroll:

[KCALB SIRAY]

Fabulous...what did he say?

Is he SCARY? :bellyroll:

no but he starts to sound like the other troll. im sure he makes love to that "Phit" from z back with all 5 doors open and headlights flashing :iono:

socialist democratic propaganda lol, all about how Virginia voted a dem.

[bobby]

Propaganda?? I said that I was thrilled that VA voted for a Dem...the first time since 1964. How is that propaganda? Didn't VA go for Obama, or am I wrong about that?

Hey, on an even more interesting note, what do you think of the color of my Phit? Like it? Hate it? All opinions--poz or neg--are welcome! :wink:

[KCALB SIRAY]

it's gay

[bobby]

Perfect! I'll take that as a compliment. :smile:

Anymore positive responses?

[33OH]

I like the color but don't like the car. :)

[KCALB SIRAY]

cause it's gay

[33OH]

I just don't understand the "look at me I'm bigger than a van" hatchback cars. But everyone has their opinions, and it's not my money. :)

[bobby]

I like what the WSJ had to say about the Phit...it really is tops in its class, according to every review I have read. I have never read an online or magazine review which favored the performance of the Yaris over the Phit, but I would be very interested in reading it if somebody can find one.
http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122608623013409143.html

<patting myself on the back a little> I think I made a pretty wise choice in buying the Phit! :thumbup:

[bobby]

I just don't understand the "look at me I'm bigger than a van" hatchback cars. But everyone has their opinions, and it's not my money. :)


Well, I think it is EXTREMELY space-efficient. The back seats fold down completely flat, or the back seats (where one would sit) flip UP, allowing a bike, or other tall items to fit effortlessly. The design is quite remarkable and well thought out.

[33OH]

It's all personal preference.

Yeah, it's a bigger car, you're going to fit more stuff. My 32' box trailer is very space efficient too.

[bobby]

Agreed, it is bigger...but more importantly, it is exceedingly well designed so every square inch is used super-efficiently. Does your box trailer handle as well, have a Nav system, electronic stability control, and look as good...? :wink:

[33OH]

I think the box trailer looks better. But no, sadly no nav system. :(

[KCALB SIRAY]

did you get picked on in school, Bobby?

[bobby]

Who said I ever went to school...? :biggrin:

[KCALB SIRAY]

Bobby, do you like movies about gladiators?

[33OH]

I saw this in a review haha:

"Having trouble sleeping? Awake all night from insomnia? Are you falling asleep at your desk by day?

Then tonight before you go to bed, try one dose of FDA approved Honda Fit 2009 and you'll be sleeping like a log. And if symptoms persist, see your doctor."

[YarTrek]

Originally Posted by Road and Track
On '08 "Subcompacts"

Even though these are economy cars, you still care about power, right? Well, not too much, we hope, because none of them is going to press you into the back of the seat with thrilling acceleration. The Fit and Yaris get their drive from tidy 1.5-liter 4-cylinders, but don't think these are low-tech pieces: the Fit makes its 109 bhp and 105 lb.-ft. of torque from a VTEC-equipped all-aluminum 16-valve sohc engine. The Yaris counters with double-overhead cams and VVT-i to make 106 bhp and 103 lb.-ft., its torque peak at a lower 4200 rpm vs. the Fit's 4800. The Versa does them one better, going the big-displacement route with its 1.8-liter dohc aluminum 16-valve 4-cylinder making 122 bhp and 127 lb.-ft. of torque, the latter at 4800 rpm.

At our test track, the Yaris flat-out smoked the other two to 60 mph, taking 8.5 seconds against the Fit's 9.0 and the Versa's 9.1. Aside from its obvious lack-of-weight advantage (it weighs only 2295 lb.!), that quick time was achieved because the gearing of the Yaris' 5-speed manual transmission allowed it to hold 2nd gear to 60 mph, while the 6-speed Versa and shorter-geared 5-speed Fit required shifts to 3rd. Things start to even out by the quarter mile, and by the time these cars hit 100 (wait for it'and then wait some more), the Versa edges ahead with a 25.5-sec. run, beating the Yaris by 0.2 sec. and the Fit, which feels dead-slow at that speed, by 2.1 sec. Although none of them will set your hair on fire with speed, all three are quicker than the Toyota Prius, Honda Civic Hybrid, Scion xB and Volkswagen Jetta 2.5.

My question: Does the '09 Fit actually accelerate better than the '08 Fit?

[marcus]

the new fit has 117 hp.

[YarTrek]

But isn't the '09 Fit heavier?

[bobby]

Yes, it's a slightly bigger engine now. I have no idea about the 0-60 time, (not important to me) but the 2008 Phit was only a half-second faster than the Yaris...not exactly "smoking". Also, these tests were done on cars w/ MT...I have AT in both my 2007 Yaris and my 2009 Phit.

Thanks for passing along the review.

[bobby]

But isn't the '09 Fit heavier?


Marginally. Although it's longer, wider, and safer, the actual weight gain (correct me if I'm wrong) is about 50lbs.

[YarTrek]

Does the '09 Fit now have a DOHC instead of the old SOHC engine? That might help its power band to expand a bit.

[bobby]

DOHC now, 16-valve engine.

It's sweet. :smile:

[KCALB SIRAY]

Bobby, ever been to a Turkish prison?

[KCALB SIRAY]

Ya can't even make this shyt up! If you want to keep spelling it your way, you might have a problem with this company...to each his own.:laugh::laugh:

[KCALB SIRAY]

heheh a Vagina Fit :bellyroll:and the company is in NEW YORK of all places...hmmmmm lol

[SIPNGAS]

OH MY...lmao

[custom Lftback]

wow, lol

[Bob_VT]

What did your boyfriend pay for the Fit about $19400? Just too much money to compare in my book......

[bobby]

See, spelling Phit this way is absolutely phyne! :biggrin:

[SIPNGAS]

Like vaginal ANYTHING would matter to you? Really.

[bobby]

Most recent Phit foto:
Enjoy! :wink:
MORE PHIT FOTOS COMING THIS WEEKEND FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT!! STAY TUNED!! :smile:

[bobby]

I'm not so sure I'm a zealot or a fanatic. I'm very very happy with my new Phit Sport, and very very happy with our new President. (After eight loooong years with the worst and most unintellectual President in US history, who wouldn't be happy with a brilliant man [soon-to-be] in office...?)

If that makes me a "fanatic", I guess I have no choice but to plead guilty, your honor. :biggrin:

(It seems like the rest of the world is pretty thrilled by Obama being elected, eh? Have you ever seen such celebrations all over the world?! It looked like Y2K all over again!!)

[SIPNGAS]

LMAO

[nsmitchell]

Bobby, you are ruining your rep on Yarisworld. Slow down a bit.

The Fit is awesome, no question.

The two cars are totally different though. The Yaris "feels" economy, the Fit "feels" sophisticated.

People who bought for economy are getting it in the Yaris, at least in the city.

The Fit does seem to shine brighter on the Highway MPGs.

You just sit back and enjoy all of your needless gadgets like USB Thumbdrive audio, Voice activated NAV System, Stability control, traction control, steering wheel mounted cruise and audio controls, 7 airbags, gobs of space, magic rear seats, built in MPG guage, tachometer, sport suspension, fog lights, and all that other stuff, the Yaris folks will enjoy what they have. Lots of cubbies and some other things. :biggrin:

[nsmitchell]

The Yaris also has the MPG gauge it just needs to be enabled in either the gauge cluster cpu or the ecu itself

I thought it had to be enabled by the ScanGuage to the tune of $125.00.

[KCALB SIRAY]

Bobby, you are ruining your rep on Yarisworld. Slow down a bit.

The Fit is awesome, no question.

The two cars are totally different though. The Yaris "feels" economy, the Fit "feels" sophisticated.

People who bought for economy are getting it in the Yaris, at least in the city.

The Fit does seem to shine brighter on the Highway MPGs.

You just sit back and enjoy all of your needless gadgets like USB Thumbdrive audio, Voice activated NAV System, Stability control, traction control, steering wheel mounted cruise and audio controls, 7 airbags, gobs of space, magic rear seats, built in MPG guage, tachometer, sport suspension, fog lights, and all that other stuff, the Yaris folks will enjoy what they have. Lots of cubbies and some other things. :biggrin:

he likes the attention and it's also like talking to a def, blind, two leg dog.

[nsmitchell]

if you look closer especially at night on your LCD tank gauge just beside it you have the MPG segments, i was actually looking for someone with their dash taken apart to see if it can be enabled from the dash or the ecu
Are you pulling my leg?! This may be on Canadian Yarii but there is no LCD MPG guage on my 07 Yaris LB. It would be kickin if there was.

I love my Scanguage but it is stuck on my steering column and looks dorky.

[gid]

as for the YARIS , we're not very happy with either for build quality . Last night while riding in her '08 sedan there were / are all kinds of rattles emerging . There's a rattle in the lower driverside windshield where it meets the dash , a loud rattle in back window area ( may be brakelight ) , a very loud rattle inside passengers side pillar where seat belt mechanism is , and others that pop up on occasion . There's a long scratch / scuff on drivers side door near the window from carelessness at factory when installed ( didn't notice when bought ) . The high beam for drivers side shines in a one spot ( like a spotlight instead of spread out ) , very annoying :mad: , we think it's the headlights' reflective mirror(s) are defective ) . When car is started in morning it shakes and can hear metallic rattle ( heat shield ? Shifting lever cable ( 4 speed auto ) ? ) . Idles rough when idle , especially in drive . The 1st gear of the automatic is delayed and shifts abruptly . Since we've bought it I've had to adjust the height of drivers side headlight ( to low from factory ) , remove part of dash to fix the loud rattle of the display unit , and more work to be done . So , this YARIS should be renamed a FIT , because it gives us FITS of anger :mad: and disappointment :rolleyes: . Therefore , a HONDA Fit may be next in line .

[darthbauer]

Wtf does the Fit have to do with Obama?

You sir are an idiot.

[KCALB SIRAY]

he prefers PHIT and it's for vaginas

[gid]

he prefers PHIT and it's for vaginas we don't abuse it . Checked tranny fluid , it's fine . The , :moon:aults and :moon:umptions you made are :moon:anine . Just :moon:erting my opinion . :biggrin:

[33OH]

I haven't had any problems with my Yaris. Except the deerfinder not working. :)

[voodoo22]

Meh, it's better to say nothing at all.... doh

[darthbauer]

I'm kinda beyond lost on this one.

[KCALB SIRAY]

page 16 top of page, it explains it all

[gid]

page 16 top of page, it explains it all :wink:

[KCALB SIRAY]

I wonder:rolleyes:

[darthbauer]

That's kinda random.

[bobby]

Yes, this is true. The Yaris is more of an economy car, the Phit Sport is a lot more sophisticated. You pay more, but you get more.

I wouldn't be more happy with my choice! :biggrin:

http://sec.online.wsj.com/article/SB122608623013409143.html

[33OH]

Phit Phport is how its spelled. get it right.

[gid]

I wonder:rolleyes: with a VINEGAR solution . If yeh know what I mean . :bellyroll:

[gid]

SUMMER'S EVE makes me feel fine , flowing through the jasmine in my mouth ...

[darthbauer]

i think gid and bobby are the same person.....:rolleyes:


Maybe the same person and also on drugs.