3rd Gear grind - Toyota Yaris Forums

hatchbackkid82 · 03-04-2009, 08:52 AM

I just started to develop a 3rd gear grind. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this. Shifting from 2nd to 3rd, it will never be hard to get into gear, but on occasion there is a slight grind. Has anyone else experienced this? The other thing is does anyone know if having an intake on there will void the entire warranty?

hatchbackkid82 · 03-04-2009, 09:10 AM

I don't rough shift. Always make sure the clutch is all the way down when shift. It's driving me nuts. Even if i shift slow at a certain speed it will grind. The grinding sound is faint but still audible, but i can feel it through the shifter. It's like something is spinning in there

firemachine69 · 10-12-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by hatchbackkid82

I don't rough shift. Always make sure the clutch is all the way down when shift. It's driving me nuts. Even if i shift slow at a certain speed it will grind. The grinding sound is faint but still audible, but i can feel it through the shifter. It's like something is spinning in there

Your synchronizer is likely pooched.

Go make an appointment with Toyota, I hope you have drivetrain warranty left!

az_saguaro · 11-01-2010, 10:19 PM

Definitely know the synchro was gone, they also found 4th gear teeth chipped and some fried bearings. Took a lot of "discussion" on the phone, but did get it the VSA (extended warranty) to cover repairs. Whew!

hatchbackkid82 · 11-02-2010, 08:41 AM

Got it taken care of, ended up with a new transmission

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Originally Posted by firemachine69

Your synchronizer is likely pooched.

Go make an appointment with Toyota, I hope you have drivetrain warranty left!

2o6 · 03-16-2012, 06:40 PM

Don't mean to be a super bump, but I have the same issue with 3rd.....

yarisman1974 · 04-24-2012, 03:25 PM

Well looks like evryone on here is experiencing the same thing as me, downshift from 3rd to 2nd gear, and unless I am under 40KM/h the gear will grind, meaning to me it's a synchro. Only problem is at 70K I had this problem last year and under powertrain warranty the synchro was replaced. Fast forward to this year and 13 months after the repair the very same issue is happening, and after speaking with the dealer and Toyota Canada because my PT warranty has expired, I do still have ECP warranty....however I got 2 calls today from Toyota, one saying that they would do a ONE time shot and waive the fee to have the dealer rip apart the transmisson, but an hour ago Toyota called back and NOW they won't honour that whatsoever and will only waive the fee if they cam prove that I didn't cause the issue as they claim that a synchro is wear and tear...I'm not happy at all with how Toyota is handling this, and may consider taking this up a notch. Any thoughts on this? I would appreciate that. Thanks.

hatchbackkid82 · 03-04-2009, 09:13 AM

Well looks like i'm back under the hood tonight

. Just put my intake on Sunday...this blows

hatchbackkid82 · 03-04-2009, 09:22 AM

I hope your right PK. I'm dreading having to shell out money. I'm out of the bumper to bumper warranty. Just have the powertrain warranty, i know they will tryto figure out a way to suck money out of me

MUSKOKA800 · 03-04-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by hatchbackkid82

I hope your right PK. I'm dreading having to shell out money. I'm out of the bumper to bumper warranty. Just have the powertrain warranty, i know they will tryto figure out a way to suck money out of me

Powertrain warranty should cover transmission problems.

hatchbackkid82 · 03-04-2009, 11:00 AM

Yeah just don't want to give them a leg to stand on. They see the intake and then some how they blame the tranny problem on that. you know they come up with any old thing to make money

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Originally Posted by MUSKOKA800

Powertrain warranty should cover transmission problems.

at3GG · 03-04-2009, 09:33 AM

mine does the same downshifting from 2 to 3 sometimes, even with the clutch fully depressed and shifting sloowly, but only if i dont let the rpm drop. Fait but still there. Also, an intake will NOT void your entire warranty. If they KNOW that you installed an intake, it will void the stock airbox and intake system portion of the watrranty and nothing. This is straight from the mouth of my Toyota Dealer. Good Luck!

Tamago · 03-04-2009, 09:45 AM

ahh the old weak synchro problem..

what gear oil are you using?

Loren · 03-04-2009, 09:49 AM

I'd check your clutch hydraulics. If the slave has a slight leak or the fluid is old or you've somehow gotten a little air in the system, the clutch may not be releasing properly. What you describe is one of the first symptoms.

hatchbackkid82 · 03-04-2009, 10:00 AM

75w-90 Mobil 1 synthetic If i remember right. It's a grind for sure, doesn't happen all the time. It definitely happens at high rpm all the time. Shift from 1st to 2nd is fine, sfifting 2nd to 3rd, pressing clutch all the way still grinds. I can't shift from 2nd to 3rd in one smooth motion at high rpm without a grind. Actually have to wait for a second or so.

Tamago · 03-04-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hatchbackkid82

75w-90 Mobil 1 synthetic If i remember right. It's a grind for sure, doesn't happen all the time. It definitely happens at high rpm all the time. Shift from 1st to 2nd is fine, sfifting 2nd to 3rd, pressing clutch all the way still grinds. I can't shift from 2nd to 3rd in one smooth motion at high rpm without a grind. Actually have to wait for a second or so.

there's your problem

get rid of that mobil1

that's a synchro destroyer (ask me how i know)

cylaptor · 02-15-2019, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamago

there's your problem

get rid of that mobil1

that's a synchro destroyer (ask me how i know)

omg, I see that now. I have the same problem after putting in a Mobil1 75W-90 gear oil. It started to grinding and very difficult shifting.

hatchbackkid82 · 03-04-2009, 10:06 AM

Ummmm....... lol.... so how do you know? You screwed your tranny up?

03-04-2009, 08:52 AM	#1
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	3rd Gear grind I just started to develop a 3rd gear grind. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this. Shifting from 2nd to 3rd, it will never be hard to get into gear, but on occasion there is a slight grind. Has anyone else experienced this? The other thing is does anyone know if having an intake on there will void the entire warranty?

04-24-2012, 03:25 PM	#7
yarisman1974 Drives: 2007 Toyota Yaris Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 2	My 2007 Toyota Yaris is doing the same thing Well looks like evryone on here is experiencing the same thing as me, downshift from 3rd to 2nd gear, and unless I am under 40KM/h the gear will grind, meaning to me it's a synchro. Only problem is at 70K I had this problem last year and under powertrain warranty the synchro was replaced. Fast forward to this year and 13 months after the repair the very same issue is happening, and after speaking with the dealer and Toyota Canada because my PT warranty has expired, I do still have ECP warranty....however I got 2 calls today from Toyota, one saying that they would do a ONE time shot and waive the fee to have the dealer rip apart the transmisson, but an hour ago Toyota called back and NOW they won't honour that whatsoever and will only waive the fee if they cam prove that I didn't cause the issue as they claim that a synchro is wear and tear...I'm not happy at all with how Toyota is handling this, and may consider taking this up a notch. Any thoughts on this? I would appreciate that. Thanks.

03-04-2009, 09:13 AM	#8
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	Well looks like i'm back under the hood tonight. Just put my intake on Sunday...this blows

03-04-2009, 09:33 AM	#12
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	mine does the same downshifting from 2 to 3 sometimes, even with the clutch fully depressed and shifting sloowly, but only if i dont let the rpm drop. Fait but still there. Also, an intake will NOT void your entire warranty. If they KNOW that you installed an intake, it will void the stock airbox and intake system portion of the watrranty and nothing. This is straight from the mouth of my Toyota Dealer. Good Luck! __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

03-04-2009, 09:49 AM	#14
Loren What? Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Safety Harbor, FL Posts: 1,006	I'd check your clutch hydraulics. If the slave has a slight leak or the fluid is old or you've somehow gotten a little air in the system, the clutch may not be releasing properly. What you describe is one of the first symptoms. __________________ ----------------------- Loren@InvisibleSun.org -----------------------

03-04-2009, 09:10 AM	#2
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	I don't rough shift. Always make sure the clutch is all the way down when shift. It's driving me nuts. Even if i shift slow at a certain speed it will grind. The grinding sound is faint but still audible, but i can feel it through the shifter. It's like something is spinning in there

11-01-2010, 10:19 PM	#4
az_saguaro What to Mod Next? Drives: 2008 3Dr HB, Bayou Blue Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: U.S. AZ Posts: 22	Definitely know the synchro was gone, they also found 4th gear teeth chipped and some fried bearings. Took a lot of "discussion" on the phone, but did get it the VSA (extended warranty) to cover repairs. Whew!

03-16-2012, 06:40 PM	#6
2o6 Drives: 2007 Liftback Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 164	Don't mean to be a super bump, but I have the same issue with 3rd.....

03-04-2009, 09:22 AM	#9
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	I hope your right PK. I'm dreading having to shell out money. I'm out of the bumper to bumper warranty. Just have the powertrain warranty, i know they will tryto figure out a way to suck money out of me

03-04-2009, 10:00 AM	#15
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	75w-90 Mobil 1 synthetic If i remember right. It's a grind for sure, doesn't happen all the time. It definitely happens at high rpm all the time. Shift from 1st to 2nd is fine, sfifting 2nd to 3rd, pressing clutch all the way still grinds. I can't shift from 2nd to 3rd in one smooth motion at high rpm without a grind. Actually have to wait for a second or so.

03-04-2009, 10:06 AM	#18
hatchbackkid82 Drives: . Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: . Posts: 1,828	Ummmm....... lol.... so how do you know? You screwed your tranny up?

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