$2500 Turbo Kit update 11/2/08 - Page 5 - Toyota Yaris Forums

TheRealEnth · 11-25-2008, 07:44 AM

second car?

anubisx99 · 12-01-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PHXDEMON

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anubisx99 · 12-01-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PETERPOOP

updates? geez

9vapors · 12-03-2008, 04:55 AM

Im here for the turbo kit!

m911gt · 12-03-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 9vapors

Im here for the turbo kit!

would you like to supersize that order for $0.59 more?

cali yaris · 12-04-2008, 01:13 PM

it's amazing how creative you get when you want to keep a thread alive.

treppen · 12-04-2008, 03:28 PM

^lol i know iv been watching since 1988... at least thats how it feels

at3GG · 12-04-2008, 03:38 PM

ok NOOB question. With the IC piping going directly to the intake, where does the initial air for the engine come from? Is there simply enough "stuck" in the intercool to be sucked in to fire the engine? Or is it just that when the spark ignites the fuel...explosion..pulls in more o2?

gboezio · 12-04-2008, 05:29 PM

cali yaris · 12-04-2008, 05:42 PM

the "air in" part is where some tubing and your air filter goes, just for clarity.

Tamago · 12-04-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

the "air in" part is where some tubing and your air filter goes, just for clarity.

for some reason this made me LOL.. thanks, Captain Obvious

Tamago · 12-04-2008, 06:13 PM

i think someone has hit "THE WALL"

at3GG · 12-04-2008, 08:15 PM

ahhhhh ok sorry for the dumb question

at3GG · 12-04-2008, 08:33 PM

so wait...his intake assembly is going to be behind the engine then?

gboezio · 12-06-2008, 09:42 AM

I guess, the turbo need to be very close in the exhaust piping, just above the oil level for oil drainback, so the air intake need to bring fresh unrestricted air there, pressurized and sent out front for cooling, back to the throttle body.

As far as fuel management, I just don't see how not to upset the computer, piggyback is a hell of a headache and not cheap, the adaptation of the ECU will mess the tune in a matter of hours, it need a complete reflash, or to run a standalone in conjunction with the present computer to run the acceesories, but the EMS will still be pissed off...
The only ways I see to do this from now is either to run a 5000 $ Motec EMS or revert to cable throttle, hacksawing the whole throttle system and revert to pre historic engine control.
To run a piggyback:
EGO :
we need to lie to the EMS, we need to control, O2 sensors signal so the ECU thinks that it's running right not detecting the over rich condition or it will trim the fuel gradually until maxed out, then will trigger limp mode
MAF :
Limit the MAF signal so the EMS don't detect overboost and trigger limp home maps, the ECU need to think he's running WOT
Relying on a MAF signal mod will mess the timing tables, so the engine need to run as stock below 0 PSI
Injectors :
Intercept the injector signal modifying it to run larger injectors, the piggyback need to read Manifold pressure and compute pulse width
Ignition :
Intercept the CPS signal and offset the signal as boost retard (6 PSI+), still the engine may see that the crank is not phased with the cams sensors and trigger a CEL and limp mode, if below 6 PSI leave timing in full advance, use higher octane fuels instead.
I'm sure that if I think of it some more I will find even more stuff and the ECU will fight back any abnormalities, it may even datalog and blow the warranty, if someone care :D

Edit : I told you I'll find something else lol, the EMS may be able to compute that the TPS and MAF signal are out of wack and trigger limp mode again.
Testing testing testing...

heeroyuy01195 · 12-06-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

the "air in" part is where some tubing and your air filter goes, just for clarity.

And sometimes fury woodland creatures, birds, etc.

lol

But I've only seen that happen on all out racecars that just happen to suck in an animal while on the track....Actually one of the Ferrari F1 cars got taken out of a race because a bird got sucked into the engine...poor little guy :(

So no updates?

cali yaris · 12-06-2008, 12:49 PM

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poor little guy :(

The driver? LOL

heeroyuy01195 · 12-06-2008, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

The driver? LOL

I'll leave that for you guys to decide

11-25-2008, 07:44 AM	#73
TheRealEnth Beast View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Blz Blu LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,365	second car? __________________ One you've taken a yaris for a spin, there's no turning back. Its a Chao!!!

12-04-2008, 01:13 PM	#78
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	it's amazing how creative you get when you want to keep a thread alive. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

12-04-2008, 03:28 PM	#79
treppen . Drives: BRUTAL Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: J-ville Flo-rida Posts: 12	^lol i know iv been watching since 1988... at least thats how it feels __________________ I ride like I got a horse stable under my hood

12-04-2008, 03:38 PM	#80
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	ok NOOB question. With the IC piping going directly to the intake, where does the initial air for the engine come from? Is there simply enough "stuck" in the intercool to be sucked in to fire the engine? Or is it just that when the spark ignites the fuel...explosion..pulls in more o2? __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

12-04-2008, 05:42 PM	#82
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	the "air in" part is where some tubing and your air filter goes, just for clarity. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

12-03-2008, 04:55 AM	#76
9vapors Awesome. Drives: 07 Meteorite Metallic Hatch Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: NY Posts: 105	Im here for the turbo kit!

12-04-2008, 05:29 PM	#81
gboezio Drives: Yaris 4dr 2008 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: victoriaville,Qc,Canada Posts: 28

12-04-2008, 06:13 PM	#84
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	i think someone has hit "THE WALL"

12-04-2008, 08:15 PM	#85
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	ahhhhh ok sorry for the dumb question __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

12-04-2008, 08:33 PM	#86
at3GG Drives: 07 metmet LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: VA Beach Posts: 648	so wait...his intake assembly is going to be behind the engine then? __________________ F5 CAI, MR axleback, MR Header, NST SSK. Full Exhaust wrap, AT3 Custom SSK Konig Heliums 15x6.5 Black Tanabe Df210's

12-06-2008, 09:42 AM	#87
gboezio Drives: Yaris 4dr 2008 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: victoriaville,Qc,Canada Posts: 28	I guess, the turbo need to be very close in the exhaust piping, just above the oil level for oil drainback, so the air intake need to bring fresh unrestricted air there, pressurized and sent out front for cooling, back to the throttle body. As far as fuel management, I just don't see how not to upset the computer, piggyback is a hell of a headache and not cheap, the adaptation of the ECU will mess the tune in a matter of hours, it need a complete reflash, or to run a standalone in conjunction with the present computer to run the acceesories, but the EMS will still be pissed off... The only ways I see to do this from now is either to run a 5000 $ Motec EMS or revert to cable throttle, hacksawing the whole throttle system and revert to pre historic engine control. To run a piggyback: EGO : we need to lie to the EMS, we need to control, O2 sensors signal so the ECU thinks that it's running right not detecting the over rich condition or it will trim the fuel gradually until maxed out, then will trigger limp mode MAF : Limit the MAF signal so the EMS don't detect overboost and trigger limp home maps, the ECU need to think he's running WOT Relying on a MAF signal mod will mess the timing tables, so the engine need to run as stock below 0 PSI Injectors : Intercept the injector signal modifying it to run larger injectors, the piggyback need to read Manifold pressure and compute pulse width Ignition : Intercept the CPS signal and offset the signal as boost retard (6 PSI+), still the engine may see that the crank is not phased with the cams sensors and trigger a CEL and limp mode, if below 6 PSI leave timing in full advance, use higher octane fuels instead. I'm sure that if I think of it some more I will find even more stuff and the ECU will fight back any abnormalities, it may even datalog and blow the warranty, if someone care :D Edit : I told you I'll find something else lol, the EMS may be able to compute that the TPS and MAF signal are out of wack and trigger limp mode again. Testing testing testing...

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