cld tiles

[patm]

what is the minimum number of cld tiles needed for the outer door skin of the driver and passanger doors of a 2007 yaris sedan.

[yojabbajabba]

Originally Posted by patm

what is the minimum number of cld tiles needed for the outer door skin of the driver and passanger doors of a 2007 yaris sedan.

Hi there.

Check out derickveliz2's (huge) thread on his SQ build, and send him a PM on how much he has used (I have done so also :D)

Hope this helps.
Aaron

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by patm

what is the minimum number of cld tiles needed for the outer door skin of the driver and passanger doors of a 2007 yaris sedan.

I used 5 or 6 but...

then I applied more MAT. a lot more! to stiff the door acoustical characteristics, remember that it actually works like a speaker enclosure!


D.

[Crackerballer]

Derick I want to bump this and ask if you think 2 tiles per door will help with road noise and some help to sound quality. I am mainly looking to eliminate road noise, so not anywhere as extreme as what you're doing, but just a bit quieter. I was thinking of doing the doors and the floor. Not going to tackle the firewall, may also do the spare wheel well and trunk too. Thanks.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Crackerballer

Derick I want to bump this and ask if you think 2 tiles per door will help with road noise and some help to sound quality. I am mainly looking to eliminate road noise, so not anywhere as extreme as what you're doing, but just a bit quieter. I was thinking of doing the doors and the floor. Not going to tackle the firewall, may also do the spare wheel well and trunk too. Thanks.

CB...

2 CLD Tiles per door it will do almost nothing that you could perceive while driving,
blocking road noise is more of a "ON" / "OFF" thing CLD Tiles will prevent large flat sheet panels to reverberate but CLD Tiles alone will not block noise.

These 2 CLD Tiles help making the door a better speaker enclosure, but for that I would use MAT, a cheaper version of CLD Tiles and conver as much
surface as possible inside the door.

A layer of MLV with your 2 CLD Tiles per door and a thin layer of CCFoam will do what you want.

Covering the entire floor + wheel wells makes a big difference in road noise.

FYI, I used 5 CLD Tiles and maybe 24" of Rope, per door and losts of MAT.
(plus a layer of MLV, and CCFoam).

D.

[yojabbajabba]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

CB...

FYI, I used 5 CLD Tiles and maybe 24" of Rope, per door and lots of MAT.
(plus a layer of MLV, and CCFoam).

D.

When doing the doors, where did you apply the RAAMMat? I understand how the CLD Tiles work, and where that goes (and how much) but in this entire SQ/road-noise-kill build I haven't figured out WHERE and WHY you are using MAT?

Thanks Derick.

[derickveliz2]

Lets say I took care of road noise using CLD+CCFoam+MLV,

OK, now my Lows (50Hz-200Hz) are in the OEM doors location (lots of BASS here) the speaker needs an enclosure, (solid, rigid, vibration proof, acoustically treated, etc) how can I make the skinny door walls perform as I proper speaker box? adding mass to it's walls in my case I used MAT, inside the door an as much I could in the structure of the door to reduce vibrations, also applied behind the plastic panel that covers the entire door.

I would love to have my speakers in solid oak wood enclosures BUT... I can't the doors come in cheap metal and plastic.



Just for the record: 3 to 4 layers of MAT does block road noise, but you pay for that extra material and time.

D.

[yojabbajabba]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Lets say I took care of road noise using CLD+CCFoam+MLV,

OK, now my Lows (50Hz-200Hz) are in the OEM doors location (lots of BASS here) the speaker needs an enclosure, (solid, rigid, vibration proof, acoustically treated, etc) how can I make the skinny door walls perform as I proper speaker box? adding mass to it's walls in my case I used MAT, inside the door an as much I could in the structure of the door to reduce vibrations, also applied behind the plastic panel that covers the entire door.

I would love to have my speakers in solid oak wood enclosures BUT... I can't the doors come in cheap metal and plastic.



Just for the record: 3 to 4 layers of MAT does block road noise, but you pay for that extra material and time.

D.

So basically ROAD NOISE is the goal with CCF+CLD+MLV (although it would help with acoustically treating the door). MAT is primarily there to counteract the active frequencies of the speakers. Is that correct?

Aaron

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by yojabbajabba

So basically ROAD NOISE is the goal with CCF+CLD+MLV (although it would help with acoustically treating the door). MAT is primarily there to counteract the active frequencies of the speakers. Is that correct?

Aaron

Yes.

D.