Micro Image Intake Manifold thread - Page 14 - Toyota Yaris Forums

tooter · 02-02-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 1.5

@tooter so the tb installation requires a larger o ring, possible chip swap, removal of epoxy, and adjusting the idle set screw? I skipped anything about the butterfly valve needing space since Im sure MI thought of those dimmensions with the new manifold design since they wanted to be able to combine the two for even better performance.

You're absolutely right. A larger butterfly likely won't clear a smaller stock bore, so it's a simple matter to make a larger bore and larger diameter gasket to fit both throttle bodies.

You want the flow to be compatable with the larger throttle body anyways.

cali yaris · 02-02-2013, 12:03 PM

I got PM's that the thread has become confusing, and I can't prune it, so.....

For those following along, please note that posts from #231 on (Silver Streak) refer to swapping a 1ZZ throttle body onto a STOCK manifold, and are not about the MICRO IMAGE manifold.

Our manifold comes with the O-ring, is a direct bolt-on, and requires no modifications to use either a 1ZZ throttle body or your stock 1NZ throttle body.

1.5 · 02-02-2013, 12:05 PM

awesome ^^

sorry to get off topic

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 02-02-2013, 07:14 PM

Awesome! I'm so excited to see the new version of the manifold. I've already got my information in and am on the wait list. I can't wait to get this and install it with my 1ZZ throttle body.

Golddeenoh · 02-02-2013, 08:14 PM

now to get Garm to confirm the intake kit that comes with the 1zz throttle body and a set of 1zz injectors. hint hint...

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 02-02-2013, 08:18 PM

Why would you need 1zz injectors? I mean, I understand that they are a larger injector, but unless you are going turbocharged/supercharged, what's the point? Seems like it would be a bit overkill for NA.

1.5 · 02-02-2013, 08:46 PM

Not necessarily, a large TB and upgraded manifold will lean out the mixture. I'm sure the maf will see more air coming in and increase the fuel delivery but if the stock injectors can't pump anymore, then the 1zz should meet those needs. More air + more fuel = more explosions = more power.

cali yaris · 02-02-2013, 09:00 PM

^ I don't see this manifold + 1ZZ TB requiring larger injectors.

Dynos will tell, but it certainly doesn't need them with the stock TB - as shown on the dyno.

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 02-02-2013, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1.5

More air + more fuel = more explosions = more power.

Not always. I've dyno-tuned two Hondas I've owned in the past with VAFCs and wide-band, both with many bolt-on mods and larger throttle bodies. Naturally aspirated, with stock injectors, EVERY TIME I made power by reducing the fuel injector pulse from stock. You'd be surprised what the stock injectors are capable of, every time I've put a car on a dyno with a wide-band o2, the car was running rich and I ended up taking away fuel to make power. In the case of my H22A-swapped Civic, I made 9 hp and 10 tq at the wheels with just a VAFC and some dyno time. The fuel and air mixtures need to be in balance, too much of either one isn't a good thing.

More air + balanced fuel = more power
More air + too much fuel = less power, lower mpg

3cyltrbo · 02-06-2013, 03:30 PM

anyone get theirs yet?

pictures? / install impressions?

sound? / buttdyno?

Will

1.5 · 02-06-2013, 03:33 PM

not yet but I am dying waiting lol

mines in finishing right now

tooter · 02-06-2013, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1.5

not yet but I am dying waiting lol

mines in finishing right now

Can't wait to actually see one!

Be sure to post lots of pictures. If yours is only being finished now, they must be shipping directly from Golden Eagle. Isn't there anyone else here who actually has one?

1.5 · 02-06-2013, 04:59 PM

well they only got 3 and mine is one of those and its actually being custom plated... I couldnt keep it a secret anymore lol so its taking a while

the other 2 may have shipped out already unless maybe garm is keeping one to put on his hatch

Yoda · 02-06-2013, 05:58 PM

i really cant imagine the need for bigger injectors for this N/A setup. Your better off getting your car tuned.

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 02-06-2013, 08:15 PM

I've tried calling and emailing but don't have a date as to when I'm getting one shipped to me yet. I WANT so badly. When I do get one I'll be sure to post lots of pics and try and get it to a dyno after install.

Captain Slow · 02-06-2013, 08:22 PM

Forgive me for not wanting to read through 14 pages of posts....but is there any dyno data on this intake manifold to show the gains? thanks.

1.5 · 02-06-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tooter

Ok... I see the 7 foot pounds of torque, and almost 5 horsepower...

...and hoping that Garm will post some pictures.

Here you go

cali yaris · 02-06-2013, 10:57 PM

Quote:

If yours is only being finished now, they must be shipping directly from Golden Eagle.

No. We are inspecting every manifold closely, and we have to assemble the included installation kit to go with it. They are all coming from us. Sorry for the delay on the first few; the batch of breather hose that came (that will be included) was not up to our standards.

We now have five going out by Friday; I'm sure there will be some feedback by next week sometime.

02-02-2013, 12:03 PM	#236
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I got PM's that the thread has become confusing, and I can't prune it, so..... For those following along, please note that posts from #231 on (Silver Streak) refer to swapping a 1ZZ throttle body onto a STOCK manifold, and are not about the MICRO IMAGE manifold. Our manifold comes with the O-ring, is a direct bolt-on, and requires no modifications to use either a 1ZZ throttle body or your stock 1NZ throttle body. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

02-02-2013, 12:05 PM	#237
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	awesome ^^ sorry to get off topic __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

02-02-2013, 08:14 PM	#239
Golddeenoh Takes corners too fast! View User's Garage Drives: Absolute Red 2009 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 830	now to get Garm to confirm the intake kit that comes with the 1zz throttle body and a set of 1zz injectors. hint hint... __________________ mods:15''Drag DR21 w/Nitto NeoGen 205/50R15, Tanabe DF210 lowering springs 1.6/1.8, TRD Rear Sway Bar, Tanabe Front Sway Bar, Micro Image Short Throw Shift Kit (both in and under), 8.64lbs flywheel, F1 Stage 4 Clutch, AEM Cold Air Intake (Red), Megan Racing Header, DC Sports Axle Back Exhaust, Micro Image Crank Pulley, NST lite Alternator Pulley, ARP Manifold Stud Kit,Tanabe Front Strut Tower Brace, ScanGuage II, Micro Image Silicone Radiator Hose Kit (Red), NRG Carbon Fiber Shift Knob (round), 2009-2011 Toyota Yaris Liftback Foglight kit, NRG Grounding Kit (Red), Hella Horns(Red),CF Hood

02-02-2013, 08:46 PM	#241
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	Not necessarily, a large TB and upgraded manifold will lean out the mixture. I'm sure the maf will see more air coming in and increase the fuel delivery but if the stock injectors can't pump anymore, then the 1zz should meet those needs. More air + more fuel = more explosions = more power. __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

02-02-2013, 09:00 PM	#242
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	^ I don't see this manifold + 1ZZ TB requiring larger injectors. Dynos will tell, but it certainly doesn't need them with the stock TB - as shown on the dyno. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

02-02-2013, 07:14 PM	#238
4/20 NEVER FORGET Drives: 2008 Yaris HB MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 100	Awesome! I'm so excited to see the new version of the manifold. I've already got my information in and am on the wait list. I can't wait to get this and install it with my 1ZZ throttle body.

02-02-2013, 08:18 PM	#240
4/20 NEVER FORGET Drives: 2008 Yaris HB MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 100	Why would you need 1zz injectors? I mean, I understand that they are a larger injector, but unless you are going turbocharged/supercharged, what's the point? Seems like it would be a bit overkill for NA.

02-06-2013, 03:30 PM	#244
3cyltrbo Drives: MR2 Spyd/Type R/Yaris/Civic Si Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 479	anyone get theirs yet? pictures? / install impressions? sound? / buttdyno? Will

02-06-2013, 03:33 PM	#245
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	not yet but I am dying waiting lol mines in finishing right now __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

02-06-2013, 04:59 PM	#247
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	well they only got 3 and mine is one of those and its actually being custom plated... I couldnt keep it a secret anymore lol so its taking a while the other 2 may have shipped out already unless maybe garm is keeping one to put on his hatch __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

02-06-2013, 05:58 PM	#248
Yoda Drives: 2008 Black Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: FL Posts: 966	i really cant imagine the need for bigger injectors for this N/A setup. Your better off getting your car tuned.

02-06-2013, 08:15 PM	#249
4/20 NEVER FORGET Drives: 2008 Yaris HB MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 100	I've tried calling and emailing but don't have a date as to when I'm getting one shipped to me yet. I WANT so badly. When I do get one I'll be sure to post lots of pics and try and get it to a dyno after install.

02-06-2013, 08:22 PM	#250
Captain Slow My Face Is Ridiculous View User's Garage Drives: 2010 Toyota Yaris 3dr LB Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 456	Forgive me for not wanting to read through 14 pages of posts....but is there any dyno data on this intake manifold to show the gains? thanks. __________________ {Buy my book - It Came From Tomorrow}

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