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Old 07-12-2010, 10:36 AM   #19
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i've had good luck with my kumho ecsta ast's.
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Old 07-12-2010, 02:18 PM   #20
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The stock'ers are junk. MUCH better tires for the money.


Having said that...


If you plan on selling the car in the future, "factory" tires add value to a car.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:05 PM   #21
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The stock'ers are junk. MUCH better tires for the money.


Having said that...


If you plan on selling the car in the future, "factory" tires add value to a car.
I have to disagree with that.
Most "factory" tires are "entry level" tires and are widely regarded as garbage for the most part. They are definately nothing special.
So, if you upgrade your tires, it will certainly not decrease the value of a car.
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Old 07-12-2010, 08:04 PM   #22
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could somebody explain the UTQG system to me a little better than they do on tirerack? at http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=48 they make it sound like the treadwear number is something you can't really go by.

p.s. Stock tires are Bridgestone Potenza's.
The UTQG rating are not standardized across the industry so pretty much worthless when comparing between brands. Apples vs Oranges.
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Old 07-13-2010, 01:28 PM   #23
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I really like the Dunlop Signatures that are on my Yaris. They seem to be a quality, and inexpensive tire.
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:42 PM   #24
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I have to disagree with that.
Most "factory" tires are "entry level" tires and are widely regarded as garbage for the most part. They are definately nothing special.
So, if you upgrade your tires, it will certainly not decrease the value of a car.


Go to a dealer, tell him that, then come back and report with what they tell you, mm'kay?





People don't want what "you" think is an upgrade, they want to see what came from the factory.



Unless we're talking some highly visible tire upgrade (say, to a michelin hydro-edge), most people who read 'Sumito' on the sidewalls automatically think "cheap shit", regardless if that may be the case or not.

And anyone who bothers looking at tires, will instantly recognize the box-store replacements.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:13 PM   #25
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Go to a dealer, tell him that, then come back and report with what they tell you, mm'kay?





People don't want what "you" think is an upgrade, they want to see what came from the factory.



Unless we're talking some highly visible tire upgrade (say, to a michelin hydro-edge), most people who read 'Sumito' on the sidewalls automatically think "cheap shit", regardless if that may be the case or not.

And anyone who bothers looking at tires, will instantly recognize the box-store replacements.
Well, things are a bit different here so, let's just agree to disagree.
Most in my area understand that factory tires are about the cheapest avalible. :)

Also, most would prefer new "upgrade" tires to worn factiory tires any day. The key word here is "upgrade", not downgrade. Ask your local dealer about that.
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Old 07-16-2010, 11:02 AM   #26
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not planning on selling the car anytime soon, so this is a non-issue for me. The yaris stock tires(potenza's) are some of the most expensive on tirerack.com, but I might want a less performance oriented tire if I was buying a yaris used.

Also, I was still curious what I'd be looking at money-wise for a separate pair of wheels+snow tires. Then I could keep the stock tires for summer until they're dead, and then replace them with something that is efficient and gives a comfortable ride, without having to compromise for snow performance. Any advice would be appreciated.

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Old 07-16-2010, 11:56 AM   #27
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Right now, Tirerack is showing no steel wheels available for the Yaris... I would give them a call to find out when they may be available. I am sure that they were shown to be in warehouse last fall.

You can have the snows mounted & balanced... then shipped to your door.

http://www.tirerack.com/snow/WinterW...&Qty2=4&Qty3=4

They do show a 14" combo for the Yaris LB... but the tire is a bit more expensive... the steel wheel is $40 each.
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Old 07-16-2010, 03:53 PM   #28
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I've had the Dunlop Signatures on my car for quite a while and I'm really happy with them as well. Great treadwear and pretty good in the snow/rain. I'm just having to be a little more careful now though because the outter treads are starting to get flat due to too much heavy turning. The rest of the meat on the tires is wearing perfect and very well though.
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Old 07-16-2010, 04:18 PM   #29
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i paid about 400$ for 4 Toyo TPT tires 195/55/15. They are pretty decent i feel they are going to suck in the winter so I'm thinking of putting blizzak's on my steelies and then save up during winter to get summer tires on my rims
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