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Old 09-09-2009, 12:26 PM   #19
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I'm sorry I always thought the general rule was Understeer was much easier to control than Oversteer. Understeer is Plowing forward and Oversteer is when the rear end steps out. If I had to guess the wider track would reduce oversteer but i could be wrong.
If you carefully read my post, that is exactly what I said.

Decreased oversteer = Increased understeer

Increased understeer = Decreased oversteer.


When you increase the rear track your are some what improving the rear traction and therefore increasing understeer.

I also said this is actually a good thing for the average driver as it won't change the way the car handles and it will improve the high speed stability making the driver feel more confortable.


Experienced drivers who want to modify the handling of the car for more oversteer will still take benefits from the rear spacers but will add other factors such to higher rear rates, sway bars, front spacers to achieve the desired handling.

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Old 09-09-2009, 12:28 PM   #20
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understeer scares drivers
oversteer scares passengers



That's a good one!

And yeah the Yaris has put me before in some scary understeery situations at high speed... not funny.
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:29 PM   #21
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and it's not like installing rear hub spacers will turn your yaris into any more of a plough than it is from the factory anyway :) alignment and tire pressures are your best and easiest way to change the way your car rotates
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Old 11-11-2009, 06:30 AM   #22
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I recently purchased a set of 13mm PG spacers for my stock setup. Can anyone tell me where the (4) shims (washers with one flat side) are intended to go? Maybe (2) shims on the bottom pair of bolts to provide camber?
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:37 AM   #23
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I recently purchased a set of 13mm PG spacers for my stock setup. Can anyone tell me where the (4) shims (washers with one flat side) are intended to go? Maybe (2) shims on the bottom pair of bolts to provide camber?
yes, that's where they go, but not required. if you are running a low offset wheel (which you're not), you may experience rubbing on the passenger side. .
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