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Old 11-13-2009, 03:09 AM   #19
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Sometimes it's a pleasure to shift the automatic. Live a little and shift your automatic.
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Old 11-13-2009, 03:33 AM   #20
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I typically only downshift to hit DFCO.
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:22 AM   #21
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I only downshift to reduce braking on long downhill stretches.
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Old 11-13-2009, 09:17 PM   #22
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its pretty fun to floor it going uphill and hear the engine go nuts although im scared it'll break lol
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:48 PM   #23
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I don't expect it will.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:48 PM   #24
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If I wanted to shift I'd have bought a standard
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:10 PM   #25
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I think if the car was designed that way it would have a tiptronic transmission where you could upshift and downshift at will or a paddle shift design.

Primarly those type of transmissions have a builtin failsafe that wont let you downshift a car accidentally beyond what the rev limiter would allow and would also upshift the transmission should you forget to do so to prevent damage to the motor or transmission.

I am not sure if the yaris transmission has something like that it could but i havent tried to find out.

Also depending on what speed you are in if you dont know what you are doing downshifting at high speed constantly is going to put premature wear on the transmission as well as its hard on the engine mounts. I would only reccomend shifting down such as going or downhill driving to utilize engine braking.

Which is primarly WHY they have those numbers there. Thats the what the engineers who put those options there had in mind. Thats why the shifter has that staircase design shifter. So you have to pause for a second between each gear shift and usually have to look down before you go into the gear that you want. Not a typical forward or backward motion.

If you enjoy shifting through the gears then purchase a manual transmission yaris or if you dont like using the clutch purchase a vehicle that has a tiptronic style transmission/shifter.

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Old 11-16-2009, 10:58 PM   #26
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Someone is going to say t sooner or later - so I may as well do it nicely (I hope).
If you enjoy shifting so much, why not just buy the manual tranny?
lol, cause I only want to shift when I want.....then let the car do the rest
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:59 AM   #27
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I feel sorry for all of you guys that are missing a pedal.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:12 AM   #28
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I feel sorry for all of you guys that are missing a pedal.
I feel the same way when I see someone stuck in heavy stop-and-go traffic with a manual transmission...
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Old 11-17-2009, 10:30 AM   #29
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Why would shifting the automatic tranny manually wear it out faster? BTW I shift my auto into neutral coming to a stop. My feet are screwed up and its very painfull holding the car at a stop with the brakes. Also, the car makes groaning/clacking noises sometimes doing that. (holding at a light) Can this neutralizing hurt anything? (IYHO)
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:04 AM   #30
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I typically only downshift to hit DFCO.
often....downshifting reduces the chance the car will go into DFCO

it -will- run some gas through the injectors to prevent too much deceleration
in many circumstances.
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:53 AM   #31
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its like a neutered dog, lost all his joie de vivre and just lays in his bed licking his butt. sorry had to do it

as for stuck in heavy traffic if you drive smart its not that tiring
but how then, can I drink a beer, talk on cell phone, and smoke a hookah
and steer with my knee with a standard ?
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:06 PM   #32
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Driving in traffic with a manual is a bitch and will wear those components rapidly.
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Old 11-17-2009, 03:14 PM   #33
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Driving in traffic with a manual is a bitch and will wear those components rapidly.
Those components will wear in an auto car as well - don't think you don't have a clutch just because you have no control over it...
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:46 AM   #34
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I think if the car was designed that way it would have a tiptronic transmission where you could upshift and downshift at will or a paddle shift design.

Primarly those type of transmissions have a builtin failsafe that wont let you downshift a car accidentally beyond what the rev limiter would allow and would also upshift the transmission should you forget to do so to prevent damage to the motor or transmission.

I am not sure if the yaris transmission has something like that it could but i havent tried to find out.

Also depending on what speed you are in if you dont know what you are doing downshifting at high speed constantly is going to put premature wear on the transmission as well as its hard on the engine mounts. I would only reccomend shifting down such as going or downhill driving to utilize engine braking.

Which is primarly WHY they have those numbers there. Thats the what the engineers who put those options there had in mind. Thats why the shifter has that staircase design shifter. So you have to pause for a second between each gear shift and usually have to look down before you go into the gear that you want. Not a typical forward or backward motion.

If you enjoy shifting through the gears then purchase a manual transmission yaris or if you dont like using the clutch purchase a vehicle that has a tiptronic style transmission/shifter.
There is absolutely nothing mechanically different between a conventional automatic and "sport shift" auto with shift buttons, paddles, or a gear +/- selector.

Now if you are talking about a DSG, SMG, or any other type of automated manual transmission (which are far more rare and much more expensive to produce), then that's different. But 99% of the cars out there with a "manual" mode are just regular autos moving through the gears as you would a yaris. If you don't believe me do some research. The auto-manual you find in a Ferrari, Audi, or BMW has nothing in common with a Dodge Caravan "Autostick."

Oh yeah, almost forgot. . . there usually still is a fail safe, but I wouldn't test that theory. My friend's kid accidentally shifted his camry's gear selector from D (5spd) to L. . . on the highway. Nothing happened.
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