|
01-13-2009, 05:28 PM | #19 |
Kickin' Yaris
Drives: 07 Yaris liftback Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: west harrison, ny
Posts: 523
|
No one is denying that President-Elect Obama is a really bright guy, probably the most educated president in the history of the nation. My point is that once you get the education, lifes experience should shape what your views are- not your college professors.
President-Elect Obama has had a wealth of experience maturing as only an African-American (in relation to most other politicians from senator and up) could experience. He has not had much experience as the leader of any group- this could be good and it could be bad. To say he is a great president because he has two degrees from one of the top learning institutions is premature, and a swipe at "lesser" presidents such as Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe and Lincoln |
01-13-2009, 05:30 PM | #20 |
I think the first line of the speach sets the tone. I have no doubt that PE Obama will deliver a speach that will become historic.
I am going to sit back and watch the fireworks. Since there is only one person in the oval office..... he will be the focal point of everything regardless if it is inherited or not. There are a hundreds of good speakers Reagan was one, Kennedy was one, Obama is one however being a good speaker is NOT related to a person's education. One of the greatest speakers in all of history never spent a day in college nor did he have a degree!
__________________
some people are little slinkies. . . . .they are really good for nothing. . . .but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Come to the DARKSIDE..... We have candy
|
|
01-13-2009, 05:34 PM | #21 | |
Banned
Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: OH
Posts: 7,787
|
Quote:
I'd stack those up against the SAG and a governorship any day. Arnold is the current governor of California, mind you. Maybe HE should be president, since he is more qualified. And about speaking, trust I have a deep respect for the power of persuasion. I in no way believe being a good speaker makes you a good leader or a just man. Hitler? |
|
01-13-2009, 06:00 PM | #22 | |
Kickin' Yaris
Drives: 07 Yaris liftback Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: west harrison, ny
Posts: 523
|
Quote:
I also take it that you don't remember the Carter campaign in '76- that was the most prolific campaign in political history, taking a relatively unknown Georgia peanut farmer and electing him to the governorship of a southern state and vaulting him into the presidency in 4 years. Carter was no one, even after he was elected governor. I hope President Obama exceeds the expectations that everyone has for President-Elect Obama, and thusly earns his greatness- rather than having it thrust upon him. No truly great person has been given his greatness- he has forged it and earned it himself |
|
01-13-2009, 06:08 PM | #23 |
So you are comparing Hitler to Obama? Have you read the Harvard Law Review? You are basing PE Obama's potential on his education...... correct?
Stop twisting what is being said! Bobselectric was saying Reagan was a great orator which come from the ability to speak to cameras. That is where the SAG comes in. Just a simple FYI the greatest orator was Jesus...... not educated with degrees. |
|
01-13-2009, 06:13 PM | #24 |
Kickin' Yaris
Drives: 07 Yaris liftback Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: west harrison, ny
Posts: 523
|
|
01-13-2009, 06:17 PM | #25 |
それを吸ってください
|
Pulling it back to the post, the idea of a Big Governement is not the right choice. We've seen it fall into the wrong hands and the housing bubble was the soap, so to speak. Too much lathering put us where we are now and it's time to stop it, cough ahembarneyfrankjimmycarterahem cough
|
01-13-2009, 06:21 PM | #26 | ||
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
some people are little slinkies. . . . .they are really good for nothing. . . .but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Come to the DARKSIDE..... We have candy
|
|||
01-13-2009, 06:22 PM | #27 |
Banned
Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: OH
Posts: 7,787
|
Jesus can't be the greatest orator ever. He isn't even on YouTube.
|
01-13-2009, 06:25 PM | #28 | |
それを吸ってください
|
Quote:
On Topic: The pork will comma with Obama, I'm just saying |
|
01-13-2009, 06:27 PM | #29 |
Banned
Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: OH
Posts: 7,787
|
I need to unsubscribe from this thread before I start swearing. Politics I can argue about and stay somewhat classy. Religion? Erm no. Later all, have fun!
|
01-13-2009, 06:33 PM | #30 |
Kickin' Yaris
Drives: 07 Yaris liftback Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: west harrison, ny
Posts: 523
|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JKIZ7j20EA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjWDrTXMgF8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhXeZ453ux4, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75V2socOEVc Examples- I hope that President-Elect Obama could make me feel the way these clips do |
01-13-2009, 06:59 PM | #31 |
I remember every one of those!
__________________
some people are little slinkies. . . . .they are really good for nothing. . . .but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs. Come to the DARKSIDE..... We have candy
|
|
01-13-2009, 07:16 PM | #32 |
Drives: '08 LB MT Bayou Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Colorado
Posts: 1,671
|
So I guess we're in for 4 years of comparison to Reagan. Fair enough.
As for Jesus, I find it hard to attribute anything written in The Bible as the actual words he may or may not have spoken given the fact that most of what is written of him and his 'speeches' was done after the fact and through the filter of hundreds of years after his death. Needless to say the words themselves are some of the most profound. It's a shame most people can't abide by them much less avoid the trap of spinning his teachings to match ones own point of view. |
01-13-2009, 08:00 PM | #33 | |
OMGWTFKITTYKATMEWMEWMEW
Drives: 2008 Yaris S Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Hawaii
Posts: 273
|
Quote:
Sure, Christianity has spread throughout the world and has had many followers but it's a fact that the Bible wasn't written until hundreds of years after his death. He never actually addressed millions in his speeches, he simply addressed a few and his beliefs were spread by word of mouth. We've all played the game "telephone" when we were kids right? You remember how messed up that original message got by the end of the line? Imagine how different the speeches were passing through centuries and thousands of different mouths. He was a fantastic symbol of how kind and selfless a human being could be, but I definitely wouldn't categorize him as the greatest orator. That is one thing we sadly won't ever know... That is, until Doc Brown perfects that Mr. Fusion and tricks out his Delorean.
__________________
|
|
01-13-2009, 09:20 PM | #34 |
jesus couldnt even talk his way out of crucifixion...blasphemy you say. there are other religions way before that of jesus and the jews. Zoroastrian religion was around 6 century B.C and is pretty much what every other religion is based on,all stories to control the will of man.
|
|
01-13-2009, 10:48 PM | #35 |
それを吸ってください
|
Anywho...the post
|
01-13-2009, 11:47 PM | #36 | |
Drives: Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Illinois
Posts: 56
|
Quote:
"As empty vessels make the loudest sound, so they that have least wit are the greatest babblers." –Plato Now let us all see who has the most posts in this thread. So far I think bob is in the lead with around 8. |
|
|
|