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Old 01-16-2009, 02:33 PM   #19
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Yeah, back in the good old days when gas stations sold tires and batteries instead of bread and eggs.
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Old 01-16-2009, 03:33 PM   #20
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Yeah, back in the good old days when gas stations sold tires and batteries instead of bread and eggs.
Your gas station sells bread and eggs? Mine sells money orders and lotto tickets.

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Old 01-17-2009, 07:45 PM   #21
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filled '08 5 spped manual Liftback with 9.41 gallons of SUNOCO 89 at 332.5 miles ( 2 bars left ) and got 35.3 miles per gallon . The average temp was 20 , many hills , all season tires , 2 people (90% of time ) , 38% City /62% Hwy.. Better than the 33.62 m.p.g. I predicted .

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Old 01-17-2009, 07:53 PM   #22
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This thing has not been as bothered by the cold temps as my Jeeps which drop 5+ mpg in the winter-must be the cold fluids in the differentials/transfer case and bigger transmissions that make the difference. I'm hanging in at 39-42 depending on if that tank was mostly freeway or city driving.
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Old 01-18-2009, 02:46 AM   #23
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Average temperature was -28C, and I was over at a friend's most every night, so no block heater usage. It really is a 5K screamer when it's cold!
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Old 01-18-2009, 08:07 AM   #24
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I wonder if the fuel maps in the automatics are different than the manual cars, I also have a full grill block and any time when the temp dips to below 20*F it seems to really kill my MPG. (my 20% drop in the winter as opposed to your 7%)

The water temp is still staying in the 184-188 range, but it seems at any given RPM I'm sucking more gas, the only difference I can attribute this to is the intake air temp

anyone else have any thoughts???
I'm thinking the ATF gets cooled off a lot more than the grease in a MT and has a resultant higher mean winter viscosity.
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Old 01-18-2009, 07:25 PM   #25
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Yeah, back in the good old days when gas stations sold tires and batteries instead of bread and eggs.
I remember.....they used to wash your windshield and check your oil while car was fueling. Could always get a flat tire fixed fast and local mechanic did not have all sorts of electronics to deal with.
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Old 01-18-2009, 11:34 PM   #26
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Although my Yaris is new....and shiny.....I have been getting around 34 MPG in mixed driving. Here in Indianapolis, the temps have been below 30 degees with a couple of days in the singe to minus digits.
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:27 AM   #27
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Last time I filled up I got 33 mpg, and that was with a lot of idling and spinning of tires (I got stuck).
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:40 AM   #28
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i have to try covering the grill.. summer im doing 6.42 li/100km winter my average is about 7.1 li/100 km..
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:22 PM   #29
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Another thing... Had two bars left when I put it to bed last night; this morning, after warming it up/thawing out the windshield for five minutes, it was FLASHING rapidly to refill (skipped the slow flash entirely). I raced over to the pump, where it took under 10 gallons, giving me the usual 32 mpg for this tank. When does yours start to flash???
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:52 PM   #30
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that will happen once every now and then.. for 2 years that happen once..

the last bar should give u 6.2 liters.. i think itll flash faster once ur on the last 3 liters.
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Old 01-23-2009, 04:52 AM   #31
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I'm curious what octane you guys are using... I've been putting premium in mine, because the difference in a 10 gallon tank is only about $2-$3 extra per fill up and in our yari, that's not that often... Seems to have better pickup and mileage. What do you guys think?
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Old 01-23-2009, 08:20 AM   #32
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First few months with mine so I do not have any previous winter numbers to compare to.

Warm weather I hit a few 45 mpg tanks, the average with my 6,500 miles is ~43.5 mpg. Winter mornings here we have temps in the teens, many 20’s and the overall average right now is 29. Afternoons usually into the 30’s or 40’s with many 50 degree highs. I have a full upper grille block that stays on until 55 F. I don’t really seem to be losing much mileage, maybe 1 or 2 mpg per tank. Current tank, which has been our coldest weather so far, is sitting at 43.1. I did have one bad commute with an accident on a long uphill that I have been slowly trying to recover from.

I am working hard for this mileage! I’m working harder with the cold weather so maybe this is why the difference is small. I’m hoping that I stumbled on a technique to get me 44 mpg in the winter and this will give me closer to 50 mpg in warm weather. I’m chasing Voodoo22’s consecutive 50 mpg tank record. Watch your back Voodoo22… I’m coming after that record!
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:37 AM   #33
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I'm curious what octane you guys are using... I've been putting premium in mine, because the difference in a 10 gallon tank is only about $2-$3 extra per fill up and in our yari, that's not that often... Seems to have better pickup and mileage. What do you guys think?
That is a topic that has been hashed out thoroughly but the data was lost in the hack. The findings were consistent, though:

If you drive it like you stole it you will see a slight increase in MPG with higher octane fuel but if you drive lighter or are a hypermiler you will see a large decrease in MPG with higher octane fuel.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:51 AM   #34
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In full summer set up i was getting close to 800 kilometers per tank,now with winter tires,and winter formulated gas and only city driving i'm lucky to get 400kms,as for using higher octane gas in a car meant for regular gas?an absurd waste of money.
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Old 01-23-2009, 11:15 AM   #35
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In full summer set up i was getting close to 800 kilometers per tank,now with winter tires,and winter formulated gas and only city driving i'm lucky to get 400kms,as for using higher octane gas in a car meant for regular gas?an absurd waste of money.
ok i dont get how ur losing half of ur mpg... i guess im not doing too bad with 500km on a 36 liters./ 7 bars this winter 60/40 cty/hwy.
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Old 01-23-2009, 01:30 PM   #36
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I might be able to get it up to 500kms but that would be getting into the flashing last bar for sure.
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