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PETERPOOP · 05-04-2009, 10:20 PM

awesome! i plan on doing meth injection during my tune also! have fun with your extra HP!

thebarber · 05-04-2009, 10:31 PM

very nice....

best to buy washer fluid by the case

im curious to see the adapter plate for the throttle body

808_Yaris · 05-05-2009, 02:52 AM

amazing! can't wait to see the tests!

Sabretooth · 05-05-2009, 05:37 AM

Just Wow...only the 2nd or 3rd Retrofitted Yaris to an Xa or Xb kit. Major congratz!

I was hoping sometime that someone would attempt a Greddy Xb S/C kit so we can see how that goes. Seeing it comes with Emanage blue, we could tune it similar to Chino's kit has been tuned. I know of one vid on Youtube of a Yaris with the Xb supercharger, although I dont know how it was done, or if its still running strong.

Tamago · 05-05-2009, 06:43 AM

IMO, Blitz (lysholm) is a superior supercharger to Greddy (Eaton) as the Eaton unit is less efficient

TheRealEnth · 05-05-2009, 08:42 AM

sick with it

nsmitchell · 05-05-2009, 09:23 AM

Awesome! So the meth/water is used to cut out knocking so you can increase compression?

Morgan · 05-05-2009, 09:27 AM

the water/meth kit is from AEM, I ordered it from Summit for about $400 shipped and it comes with different size injectors (I just used the smallest one in the kit). The nozzle must be put BEFORE the TB but AFTER the maf. The AEM system is progressive and you can set what psi it will start and what psi you want full to be. The kit has a controller box mounted in the car for tuning and my only complaint is that the adjuster is quite obviously set up to handle like 30+lbs of pressure so adjusting it for the wee 6-8ish lbs has been interesting.

I have kept my original Yaris TB, so no cable its still DriveByWire. But the plate that mates the two together is basically a glorified gasket made from StarBoard (marine ABS plastic) with for a 2ftx3ftx3/4in was about $30. StarBoard may quite possibly be the coolest material to work with ever. It is rated for about 250*F so its safe for the temperature range I needed and you can drill into it and cut it with normal wood working tools. Basically my TB is upside down and one of the holes in the Yaris TB is matched up with a hole to the Blitz intake tube and then the rest of the holes are either counter sunk into the StarBoard or drilled through with a nut and bolt to hold them together. And of course rtv to make a nice seal.

I am supposed to be going out of town on Wed, might push it back til Thursday so I can have more time to get ready. I've already burned through 1/3 tank of fuel (93 octane, cause Florida is awesome!) and 1/4 water-meth mixture with flooring it and trying to tune it.

The water methanol is pretty easy to set up, the US has been doing it will all piston driven airplane engines since like WWII and its known to be pretty safe and reliable. Most people put a water injection setup on their cars to squeeze out more octane and get more out of the engine. Living in Florida with no intercooler, I'm using it to cool and reduce my chances of knock. The concentration depends on what you need. Water - to cool; Methanol - increase octane/reduce knock. I need both so I'm running pretty much a 50/50 mix by volume.

I really loved chemistry and never thought I'd EVER have to use it in the real world. BUT when you buy a 1 gallon washer fluid and its a 33% methanol concentration and you have 100ml of Heet (~$2 from any auto parts store) which is 99% methanol. Rough numbers find something to pour both fluids into and shake. After its all mixed together you have a 40% methanol by volume and for now a 40meth/60water mix is close enough. For summer I will probably need to bump it up to 50/50.

Look into the concentrations for your needs, I'm not using this setup for more power but when tuned correctly it will increase the octane and cool the engine... so voila more power

hope that may answer some questions? all in all I probably wont go through that much methanol (or gas lol) but its new and the first few tanks after stuff like this are always pretty crappy mileage, right

Morgan · 05-05-2009, 06:43 PM

update - I noticed the belt slipping (and squeaking) while running the a/c and the supercharger, so I swapped back to the pulley that came with the kit and got a 66 inch belt [I was running a pulley from Advanced Auto Parts and a Gatorback 66.7in belt]

But after some fun in second gear, it pulls just as hard and runs great with 4 people and the a/c on

eTiMaGo · 05-09-2009, 10:07 AM

how did I miss this? great job, more boosted ladies FTW

supmet · 05-09-2009, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan

I really loved chemistry and never thought I'd EVER have to use it in the real world. BUT when you buy a 1 gallon washer fluid and its a 33% methanol concentration and you have 100ml of Heet (~$2 from any auto parts store) which is 99% methanol. Rough numbers find something to pour both fluids into and shake. After its all mixed together you have a 40% methanol by volume and for now a 40meth/60water mix is close enough. For summer I will probably need to bump it up to 50/50.

100 mL = 3.38 oz

33% of one gallon = 42.66 oz

42.66 + 3.38 = 46.05

46.05 oz /131.38 oz = 35%

Is my math wrong?

ztrack157 · 05-09-2009, 05:29 PM

nope looks right. 35.04%

Russelt3hPirate · 05-11-2009, 10:43 AM

as long as her mixture is consistent and tuned on that same mix it doesn't really matter what the % is.

same goes with mixing fuels, if I ran 1/4 tank 93 and 5 gallon 110 for my tune anytime I run my "race map" I just need to have 1/4 or less of 93 and 5 gallon of 110 and I'm good. (note, example isn't from a Yaris, at least not yet anyway... ;) ).

Morgan · 05-14-2009, 11:31 AM

% by volume and % by weight are different... I can never remember which one is which but I know the math you provided is not the math I used to determine the concentration

Tamago · 05-14-2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan

% by volume and % by weight are totally different...

you geek ;)

welcome back!

Morgan · 05-14-2009, 11:35 AM

hehe ninja edit...

and thanks!

Tamago · 05-14-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan

% by volume and % by weight are different... I can never remember which one is which but I know the math you provided is not the math I used to determine the concentration

methanol and water have different specific gravities, for sure.

Russelt3hPirate · 05-14-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

methanol and water have different specific gravities, for sure.

who cares!

use the same mixture everytime and stop doing math.

05-04-2009, 10:31 PM	#20
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	very nice.... best to buy washer fluid by the case im curious to see the adapter plate for the throttle body __________________

05-05-2009, 05:37 AM	#22
Sabretooth 37HSSV View User's Garage Drives: '11 Mazdaspeed 3 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: St Cloud FL Posts: 1,395	Just Wow...only the 2nd or 3rd Retrofitted Yaris to an Xa or Xb kit. Major congratz! I was hoping sometime that someone would attempt a Greddy Xb S/C kit so we can see how that goes. Seeing it comes with Emanage blue, we could tune it similar to Chino's kit has been tuned. I know of one vid on Youtube of a Yaris with the Xb supercharger, although I dont know how it was done, or if its still running strong. __________________ 07 Toyota Yaris Hatchback -sold- 11 Mazdaspeed 3 -SRI/TIP, 3 inch TBI, Custom FMIC, Tuned by Cobb Accessport, HKS ssq2 BOV, Upgraded HPFP- Clean stock look... Killer performance.

05-05-2009, 08:42 AM	#24
TheRealEnth Beast View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Blz Blu LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,365	sick with it __________________ One you've taken a yaris for a spin, there's no turning back. Its a Chao!!!

05-05-2009, 09:23 AM	#25
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	Awesome! So the meth/water is used to cut out knocking so you can increase compression? __________________ Other car is a 2005 Mustang Convertible 4.0L V6 Manual - Legend Lime Get YarAss in gear! RIP - Casey Tatum

05-05-2009, 09:27 AM	#26
Morgan View User's Garage Drives: 07 MM LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PCB, FL Posts: 504	the water/meth kit is from AEM, I ordered it from Summit for about $400 shipped and it comes with different size injectors (I just used the smallest one in the kit). The nozzle must be put BEFORE the TB but AFTER the maf. The AEM system is progressive and you can set what psi it will start and what psi you want full to be. The kit has a controller box mounted in the car for tuning and my only complaint is that the adjuster is quite obviously set up to handle like 30+lbs of pressure so adjusting it for the wee 6-8ish lbs has been interesting. I have kept my original Yaris TB, so no cable its still DriveByWire. But the plate that mates the two together is basically a glorified gasket made from StarBoard (marine ABS plastic) with for a 2ftx3ftx3/4in was about $30. StarBoard may quite possibly be the coolest material to work with ever. It is rated for about 250*F so its safe for the temperature range I needed and you can drill into it and cut it with normal wood working tools. Basically my TB is upside down and one of the holes in the Yaris TB is matched up with a hole to the Blitz intake tube and then the rest of the holes are either counter sunk into the StarBoard or drilled through with a nut and bolt to hold them together. And of course rtv to make a nice seal. I am supposed to be going out of town on Wed, might push it back til Thursday so I can have more time to get ready. I've already burned through 1/3 tank of fuel (93 octane, cause Florida is awesome!) and 1/4 water-meth mixture with flooring it and trying to tune it. The water methanol is pretty easy to set up, the US has been doing it will all piston driven airplane engines since like WWII and its known to be pretty safe and reliable. Most people put a water injection setup on their cars to squeeze out more octane and get more out of the engine. Living in Florida with no intercooler, I'm using it to cool and reduce my chances of knock. The concentration depends on what you need. Water - to cool; Methanol - increase octane/reduce knock. I need both so I'm running pretty much a 50/50 mix by volume. I really loved chemistry and never thought I'd EVER have to use it in the real world. BUT when you buy a 1 gallon washer fluid and its a 33% methanol concentration and you have 100ml of Heet (~$2 from any auto parts store) which is 99% methanol. Rough numbers find something to pour both fluids into and shake. After its all mixed together you have a 40% methanol by volume and for now a 40meth/60water mix is close enough. For summer I will probably need to bump it up to 50/50. Look into the concentrations for your needs, I'm not using this setup for more power but when tuned correctly it will increase the octane and cool the engine... so voila more power hope that may answer some questions? all in all I probably wont go through that much methanol (or gas lol) but its new and the first few tanks after stuff like this are always pretty crappy mileage, right __________________

05-04-2009, 10:20 PM	#19
PETERPOOP View User's Garage Drives: 08 white liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oahu Posts: 3,674	awesome! i plan on doing meth injection during my tune also! have fun with your extra HP!

05-05-2009, 02:52 AM	#21
808_Yaris Where is Oahu? View User's Garage Drives: 5-door meteorite metallic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: HI Posts: 1,346	amazing! can't wait to see the tests!

05-05-2009, 06:43 PM	#27
Morgan View User's Garage Drives: 07 MM LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PCB, FL Posts: 504	update - I noticed the belt slipping (and squeaking) while running the a/c and the supercharger, so I swapped back to the pulley that came with the kit and got a 66 inch belt [I was running a pulley from Advanced Auto Parts and a Gatorback 66.7in belt] But after some fun in second gear, it pulls just as hard and runs great with 4 people and the a/c on __________________

05-09-2009, 10:07 AM	#28
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	how did I miss this? great job, more boosted ladies FTW __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

05-09-2009, 05:29 PM	#30
ztrack157 Vroom Vroom Beep Beep View User's Garage Drives: Powered Roller Skate Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Biggs, CA Posts: 404	nope looks right. 35.04% __________________ Ever blown out an R-200 diff god know's I have

05-11-2009, 10:43 AM	#31
Russelt3hPirate l33t3st Asshole Drives: MY07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Epcot Posts: 588	as long as her mixture is consistent and tuned on that same mix it doesn't really matter what the % is. same goes with mixing fuels, if I ran 1/4 tank 93 and 5 gallon 110 for my tune anytime I run my "race map" I just need to have 1/4 or less of 93 and 5 gallon of 110 and I'm good. (note, example isn't from a Yaris, at least not yet anyway... ;) ). __________________

05-14-2009, 11:31 AM	#32
Morgan View User's Garage Drives: 07 MM LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PCB, FL Posts: 504	% by volume and % by weight are different... I can never remember which one is which but I know the math you provided is not the math I used to determine the concentration __________________

05-14-2009, 11:35 AM	#34
Morgan View User's Garage Drives: 07 MM LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PCB, FL Posts: 504	hehe ninja edit... and thanks! __________________

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