Fuel Economy - Page 27 - Toyota Yaris Forums

spacemanoeuvres · 07-04-2006, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master2192

I think the paseo is much more aerodynamic than the Yaris. It definitely looks more aerodynamic than the liftback.

Also gearing could come into play. But I think you would have closer numbers to what you expected if you had got the Yaris Sedan. The Paseo and the liftback are way different body designs.

The Yaris Liftback is 9 inches taller than my old Paseo so the aerodynamics definitely come into play, especially at higher speeds.

Once I save up a few bills I'm going to hookup the lowering springs so that should help.

Idjiit · 07-04-2006, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacemanoeuvres

Fill up #3:

Took 11.350 gallons with the odometer on 398.

That's approx 35.1 (US) miles per gallon...blech, disappointing

Driving was 65/35 highway; frequently cruising at 80+ mph with the AC running about 20% of the city & hwy miles.

The car's hardly broken in, you need to relax. After the tires break in a bit, you'll see an increase in mileage, and keeping your top speed around 70-75mph will help tremendously. There's a steep fall off in MPG over 70 in our Prius even.

NickNickNick · 07-04-2006, 05:47 PM

Last fill: 650km on 36L.

42mpg USA. 5.5L/100km.

Ryu · 07-04-2006, 09:19 PM

Another fill up for the automatic Yaris 332.1km using 21.843L
comes to 6.577L/100km

swng · 07-07-2006, 08:41 PM

First fuel gauge bar lasted 175 km. Not a record, but still good. The important thing is that the oil change in June appears to have helped a bit. I would be very tempted to try synthetic oil the next time. It costs about Cdn $30 more.

60 Somethings · 07-09-2006, 12:20 AM

Mileage report on new hatchback with 3,000 miles on it and initial oil change at 2,500 miles.

On last tank we drove 343 miles before refueling.

1/3 consisted of city driving and other 2/3 was a trip yesterday up to Timberline Lodge at Mt Hood. Pretty much all of it was with A/C on. The city driving was mostly with two adults in the car, and yesterday's trip was with three adults.

Vancouver, WA is approx 280' elevation. Went across to Portland and took Hwy 26 to Timberline Lodge turnoff at Gov't Camp (3,995'). The last 6 miles is a curvey road up to the Lodge at 6,000' (turned off the A/C for that part). Came down through Hood River Valley to city of Hood River, then back along Hwy 14 on the WA side of the gorge.

Stayed up with traffic all the way - just kept the revs up and it ran like a champ. Very smooth and A/C was great - it was a hot day.

Mileage came out at 34.7 MPG for the tank. Given the conditions we were very pleased.

Expect to get 38 MPG on drives to Seattle with the A/C on. We need to do that soon, and I will report the results.

Tankota · 07-09-2006, 04:26 PM

I'm getting about 34 average right now, at 1500 miles. 40% City, 40% highway, 20% L.A. Traffic.

And it's been so hot out where I am the AC has never been off since I got the car..

johnson306 · 07-12-2006, 01:20 PM

My first tank came in at 503 kilometres. I have no idea how many mpg that is? anyone want to convert? that was using 37 L.

asa805 · 07-12-2006, 02:24 PM

seriously i dont get this stupid crap. I got 27 my frist fill up and just got 24 my second! What the F&*( is going on!!!

I had low tire pressure.... could that be the culprit. I do mainly city driving, probably 85/15 with most of my driving trips between 5-15 minutes long. I dont rev the engine while its cold, am careful over bumps, dont go over 70 (usually hover around 60 like an old fart (im 27!)), and really trying not to stop short if i can help it.

So seriously... how come i am getting 10mpg difference between other drivers doing similiar driving? Ok maybe im doing too many short trips but i figure i shoudl be getting at least 30!!!

sorry but im starting to think this car is just a peice of shit in a cute cars clothing :(

swng · 07-12-2006, 06:37 PM

To johnson306:
http://www.roity.com/petrol/metcalc.html
http://www.hicloneqld.com/data.htm.

To asa805:
http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...nce.cfm?attr=8
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml

Hope you like these sites, gentlemen. I bet that most of the contents therein you already know. But there is no harm to take a look again. Enjoy!

Dylanby · 07-12-2006, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asa805

seriously i dont get this stupid crap. I got 27 my frist fill up and just got 24 my second! What the F&*( is going on!!!

I had low tire pressure.... could that be the culprit. I do mainly city driving, probably 85/15 with most of my driving trips between 5-15 minutes long. I dont rev the engine while its cold, am careful over bumps, dont go over 70 (usually hover around 60 like an old fart (im 27!)), and really trying not to stop short if i can help it.

So seriously... how come i am getting 10mpg difference between other drivers doing similiar driving? Ok maybe im doing too many short trips but i figure i shoudl be getting at least 30!!!

sorry but im starting to think this car is just a peice of shit in a cute cars clothing :(

The mileage is going to suck during the break in period. Some people didn't start seeing great numbers until their first oil change. Those numbers do seem low tho'.

fnkngrv · 07-13-2006, 03:28 PM

Maybe you just happened to get a dud. The lowest I have had so far was 37 or 38 and that was with 60/40 split I would think....60 being HWY. I now have 3015 miles and I am going to be taking it in for the first change this weekend.

spacemanoeuvres · 07-13-2006, 07:56 PM

First 5

OD - GAL (US MPG):

395.0 - 11.00 (35.9)
397.4 - 11.00 (36.1)
398.0 - 11.35 (35.1)
377.7 - 10.70 (35.3)
421.5 - 10.86 (38.8)

1,989.6 - 54.93 (36.2)

5 Speed Liftback, 35/65 cty/hwy

Didn't use AC at high speeds on the last tank, it made a considerable difference.

asa805 · 07-13-2006, 10:52 PM

can people please specify if they are driving man/auto and roughly how many miles are hwy or city?

Thanks ...

*just sitting here seething with jealousy* lol

*Chris07LB* · 07-14-2006, 05:36 AM

Im still getting over 400 out of my full tanks..

Auto slush box / Liftback / 98% highway driven miles.

swng · 07-14-2006, 10:04 PM

In the case of the Yaris, the difference in fuel economy between the stick and auto versions is not big. If interested in verifying this, please check it out on www.toyota.ca. Just go to the specificatons page for the Yaris.
Moreover, IMHO, because the auto version has a degree of autonomy, it tends to give out fuel economy numbers closer (than the stick version) to the average, whilst a stick shift will produce numbers that vary greatly, depending on the user's driving style.
At the risk of over simplifying, I would say that one can use the stick shift to ,deliberately or inadvertently, produce low mileage by always using low gears, laboring/lugging engine etc. On the other hand, an auto transmission will normally select the best gear for the situation, at least most of the time and hence produce results that are closer to the norm/average.
Having said that, I would still say that the stick version, if driven by a proficient driver driving with a thrifty style, should produce slightly better numbers than a similar car with an automatic transmission driven similarly.
Also, I do not imply in anyway that poor mileage must be a result of bad driving style. There are too many reasons which can lead to poor fuel economy.

TRD_Yaris · 07-15-2006, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swng

In the case of the Yaris, the difference in fuel economy between the stick and auto versions is not big. If interested in verifying this, please check it out on www.toyota.ca. Just go to the specificatons page for the Yaris.
Moreover, IMHO, because the auto version has a degree of autonomy, it tends to give out fuel economy numbers closer (than the stick version) to the average, whilst a stick shift will produce numbers that vary greatly, depending on the user's driving style.
At the risk of over simplifying, I would say that one can use the stick shift to ,deliberately or inadvertently, produce low mileage by always using low gears, laboring/lugging engine etc. On the other hand, an auto transmission will normally select the best gear for the situation, at least most of the time and hence produce results that are closer to the norm/average.
Having said that, I would still say that the stick version, if driven by a proficient driver driving with a thrifty style, should produce slightly better numbers than a similar car with an automatic transmission driven similarly.
Also, I do not imply in anyway that poor mileage must be a result of bad driving style. There are too many reasons which can lead to poor fuel economy.

WOw! that is a WELL thought out statement(S). I wish i could articulate to this degree.
I agree completely. heavier engines/chassis will make automatic trannies less productive, but on a yaris it should be negligible..especially for crappy drivers :P
but, too bad we didn't get a 5th gear on the automatic tranny like the hondas :( it's like being in 5th instead of 6th nowadays.

jay · 07-16-2006, 01:22 AM

4 more sets of numbers to report, as a followup to my prior post on this thread.

Per my regular 70/30 hwy/city mix -

5.93 L/100 km (zero A/C)
6.30 L/100 km (some A/C)

On a 1136.7 km total road trip (85 hwy/15 city, A/C running ~75% of the time) -

5.56 (!) L/100 km
In Monopoly money - 42.30 US mpg
In poker chips - 50.81 Imperial mpg

Back to the regular 70/30 hwy/city mix, and w/lots of A/C -

6.33 L/100km
...and back up to the low 6s I've been typically experiencing this summer.

It would appear that hwy running, for hours at a time, reduces the rate of fuel consumption.

Overall, these are substantial reductions from 7.1-7.2 L/100 km, when the car was still brand new thru the dead of winter. On the assumption that my driving style has been more or less the same, wear-in, usage mix, and environmental conditions seem to account for the rest of the difference.

I think my experience has been typical (no need to panic for the new Yaris owners).

Well, not much more I can add at this point. My Yaris has met all my expectations

07-09-2006, 12:20 AM	#474
60 Somethings Old Folks View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris LB, 2006 4Runner V8 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Vancouver, USA Posts: 222	Mileage report on new hatchback with 3,000 miles on it and initial oil change at 2,500 miles. On last tank we drove 343 miles before refueling. 1/3 consisted of city driving and other 2/3 was a trip yesterday up to Timberline Lodge at Mt Hood. Pretty much all of it was with A/C on. The city driving was mostly with two adults in the car, and yesterday's trip was with three adults. Vancouver, WA is approx 280' elevation. Went across to Portland and took Hwy 26 to Timberline Lodge turnoff at Gov't Camp (3,995'). The last 6 miles is a curvey road up to the Lodge at 6,000' (turned off the A/C for that part). Came down through Hood River Valley to city of Hood River, then back along Hwy 14 on the WA side of the gorge. Stayed up with traffic all the way - just kept the revs up and it ran like a champ. Very smooth and A/C was great - it was a hot day. *Mileage came out at 34.7 MPG for the tank.* Given the conditions we were very pleased. Expect to get 38 MPG on drives to Seattle with the A/C on. We need to do that soon, and I will report the results. Last edited by 60 Somethings; 07-10-2006 at 12:11 AM.

07-12-2006, 06:37 PM	#478
swng Drives: 06 3-dr auto RS Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,051	To johnson306: http://www.roity.com/petrol/metcalc.html http://www.hicloneqld.com/data.htm. To asa805: http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportatio...nce.cfm?attr=8 http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml Hope you like these sites, gentlemen. I bet that most of the contents therein you already know. But there is no harm to take a look again. Enjoy! Last edited by swng; 07-12-2006 at 06:53 PM.

07-13-2006, 03:28 PM	#480
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	Maybe you just happened to get a dud. The lowest I have had so far was 37 or 38 and that was with 60/40 split I would think....60 being HWY. I now have 3015 miles and I am going to be taking it in for the first change this weekend. __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

07-13-2006, 07:56 PM	#481
spacemanoeuvres spase peepole Drives: BLAZING BLUE Liftback 5 Speed Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bucks County, PA Posts: 119	First 5 OD - GAL (US MPG): 395.0 - 11.00 (35.9) 397.4 - 11.00 (36.1) 398.0 - 11.35 (35.1) 377.7 - 10.70 (35.3) 421.5 - 10.86 (38.8) 1,989.6 - 54.93 (36.2) 5 Speed Liftback, 35/65 cty/hwy Didn't use AC at high speeds on the last tank, it made a considerable difference. __________________ we am spase peepole Last edited by spacemanoeuvres; 07-14-2006 at 05:58 PM.

07-14-2006, 10:04 PM	#484
swng Drives: 06 3-dr auto RS Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,051	In the case of the Yaris, the difference in fuel economy between the stick and auto versions is not big. If interested in verifying this, please check it out on www.toyota.ca. Just go to the specificatons page for the Yaris. Moreover, IMHO, because the auto version has a degree of autonomy, it tends to give out fuel economy numbers closer (than the stick version) to the average, whilst a stick shift will produce numbers that vary greatly, depending on the user's driving style. At the risk of over simplifying, I would say that one can use the stick shift to ,deliberately or inadvertently, produce low mileage by always using low gears, laboring/lugging engine etc. On the other hand, an auto transmission will normally select the best gear for the situation, at least most of the time and hence produce results that are closer to the norm/average. Having said that, I would still say that the stick version, if driven by a proficient driver driving with a thrifty style, should produce slightly better numbers than a similar car with an automatic transmission driven similarly. Also, I do not imply in anyway that poor mileage must be a result of bad driving style. There are too many reasons which can lead to poor fuel economy. Last edited by swng; 07-14-2006 at 10:47 PM.

07-04-2006, 05:47 PM	#471
NickNickNick Drives: 06 Silver Yaris 3-door Manual Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 96	Last fill: 650km on 36L. 42mpg USA. 5.5L/100km.

07-04-2006, 09:19 PM	#472
Ryu View User's Garage Drives: Copper Orange Mica Yaris Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Surrey, BC Posts: 503	Another fill up for the automatic Yaris 332.1km using 21.843L comes to 6.577L/100km

07-07-2006, 08:41 PM	#473
swng Drives: 06 3-dr auto RS Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: BC Posts: 1,051	First fuel gauge bar lasted 175 km. Not a record, but still good. The important thing is that the oil change in June appears to have helped a bit. I would be very tempted to try synthetic oil the next time. It costs about Cdn $30 more.

07-09-2006, 04:26 PM	#475
Tankota Prototype Tester Drives: Yaris S-Sedan / FJ Cruiser Join Date: May 2006 Location: Reseda, CA Posts: 67	I'm getting about 34 average right now, at 1500 miles. 40% City, 40% highway, 20% L.A. Traffic. And it's been so hot out where I am the AC has never been off since I got the car..

07-12-2006, 01:20 PM	#476
johnson306 Drives: Yaris sedan 2007 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 3	My first tank came in at 503 kilometres. I have no idea how many mpg that is? anyone want to convert? that was using 37 L.

07-12-2006, 02:24 PM	#477
asa805 Drives: 07 White 2dr Yaris Hatch Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 38	seriously i dont get this stupid crap. I got 27 my frist fill up and just got 24 my second! What the F&*( is going on!!! I had low tire pressure.... could that be the culprit. I do mainly city driving, probably 85/15 with most of my driving trips between 5-15 minutes long. I dont rev the engine while its cold, am careful over bumps, dont go over 70 (usually hover around 60 like an old fart (im 27!)), and really trying not to stop short if i can help it. So seriously... how come i am getting 10mpg difference between other drivers doing similiar driving? Ok maybe im doing too many short trips but i figure i shoudl be getting at least 30!!! sorry but im starting to think this car is just a peice of shit in a cute cars clothing :(

07-13-2006, 10:52 PM	#482
asa805 Drives: 07 White 2dr Yaris Hatch Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 38	can people please specify if they are driving man/auto and roughly how many miles are hwy or city? Thanks ... just sitting here seething with jealousy lol

07-14-2006, 05:36 AM	#483
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	Im still getting over 400 out of my full tanks.. Auto slush box / Liftback / 98% highway driven miles.

07-16-2006, 01:22 AM	#486
jay Drives: 2006 Yaris LE 5dr AT Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 41	4 more sets of numbers to report, as a followup to my prior post on this thread. Per my regular 70/30 hwy/city mix - 5.93 L/100 km (zero A/C) 6.30 L/100 km (some A/C) On a 1136.7 km total road trip (85 hwy/15 city, A/C running ~75% of the time) - 5.56 (!) L/100 km In Monopoly money - 42.30 US mpg In poker chips - 50.81 Imperial mpg Back to the regular 70/30 hwy/city mix, and w/lots of A/C - 6.33 L/100km ...and back up to the low 6s I've been typically experiencing this summer. It would appear that hwy running, for hours at a time, reduces the rate of fuel consumption. Overall, these are substantial reductions from 7.1-7.2 L/100 km, when the car was still brand new thru the dead of winter. On the assumption that my driving style has been more or less the same, wear-in, usage mix, and environmental conditions seem to account for the rest of the difference. I think my experience has been typical (no need to panic for the new Yaris owners). Well, not much more I can add at this point. My Yaris has met all my expectations