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04-28-2009, 02:57 PM | #37 |
i did some research on both it looks like zage makes the kit for HKS they may use there own hks turbo but everything else is outsourced. the first zage kit was a moddified hks xa/xb tubo kit.
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04-28-2009, 03:00 PM | #38 | |
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sounds like BS to me. which one is kou? |
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04-28-2009, 03:03 PM | #39 |
why would a company not see what was needed to fit there turbo kit in a different model, they would modify the one they have first then make the parts needed.
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so you're telling me Zage and HKS are the same in terms of this turbo kit? the HKS kit was not designed/developed by HKS but by Zage? Zage stamps the HKS oil pan for them, and doesn't include an intercooler? I'm just trying to understand your contradictory statement. |
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04-28-2009, 03:10 PM | #41 |
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looks like Zage used all their good oil line tubing for the HKS order......
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04-28-2009, 03:12 PM | #42 |
hks offers there own turbo and engine management for an xa/xb with there finished kit, zage developed the yaris kit from that kit, how hard is that to understand.everyone outsources.
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first you said Zage made the HKS kit. then you said Zage used the HKS kit for their Yaris kit. now you're saying Zage stole the HKS kit design from the xA/xB and made some minor changes and are calling it their own. so Zage isn't making the HKS kits, they just used an HKS kit as their initial setup for their new "Zage" Yaris kit. or are you still saying Zage makes the HKS kits? see where you're not making sense? or do I need to add in your previous quotes? |
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04-28-2009, 03:21 PM | #45 |
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also please define the term "outsource".
if "EVERYONE" outsources, who makes the Zage kit? HKS? |
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^^^ Does this kind of shit keep you up at night? Seriously, you have way too much time on your hands.
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I just would prefer to know the truth whenever possible instead of some mindless regurgitation found somewhere on the internets. does me asking questions keep you up at night? I actually get paid by Yarisworld to keep the drama going.* *the above comment is 100% false |
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... and you're doing a great job with overly aggressive negativity and sarcasm. The actual knowledge you have is pretty good, though.
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I'll try to be cuddly and lovey dovey for a few days and see if it helps, but from what I've witnessed before it takes short sentences to get the point across on a forum and that can misconstrued as aggressive and negative, then again if something is in the middle of a paragraph there is a very slim chance it'll get read especially if it is something worth reading. Thank you cali for your positive comments towards my knowledge. Cali, do you have any comments about this turbo kit in particular?
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ok, I'll offer a few comments. The context for my comments is that someone buying this expects to more or less bolt it on and have a professional shop make adjustments, fabricate what's needed, tune and dyno the car.
1. What turbo is it? It's the heart of the kit, and I personally would only trust a name brand in my car to blow boost. 2. I like water lines and external wastegates, but that's not a critical point. 3. Management - I've always recommended finding a good shop with a dyno and someone who really knows how to tune cars before installing anything. Further, the tuner will have a preferred method/more knowledge on how to do it. Make sure they know how to tune the car with THIS management, including wiring, or you'll be wasting money on parts they can't use. 4. As noted, a downpipe will need to be fabricated. Again make sure the shop you are dealing with can do ALL of the work required to complete the project. 5. Intercooler and BOV -- Routing, choices, fabricating and installing will cost something, as will the purchase of a BOV. The bottom line: It's an unknown turbo with quite a bit of work (in my opinion only!) to install correctly and unknown tuning strategy to make reliable power with a USDM car. I personally would lay out a plan, find a shop, source a mani, a turbo, and just build my own.
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building ones own would obviously be a better solution as it'd all be custom and to the proper (hopefully) specs.
maybe we can find someone with a bunch of $$ willing to test? |
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The internet is full of mindless regurgitation of useless info and knowing this I tend to do my own research rather than brow beat random posters over confusing or incomprehensible comments. So... YW wants to know - are you and Tamago related in some way? I'd swear you two are twins separated at birth. Lastly, to give props where due - Tamago does seem to know his shit and for that he has my respect - though I do enjoy needling him a bit over his demeanor - I'm not so familiar with you (other than your wheel snobbery) so I'll have to take Garm's word for it. Sleep well! |
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04-28-2009, 05:42 PM | #53 | |
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what is garm's word?
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