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Old 06-21-2012, 12:50 AM   #55
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I still dont see the point in bashing Garm. Hes done so much for our community and really paving a way for us to enjoy our cars to the fullest. Just bashing him about his business is just wasting his time and taking away from work he is working on rather than defending himself against bogus claims. I personally know Jeff and Garm and I can say their both one of a kind people who wouldnt want to even think of screwing peopleout of their hard earned money but if Ive learned one thing in aftermarket parts on a car is that builds hardly go according to plan. Theres always a kink of some sort that needs to be worked out and you just have to be flexible and work with it. Stop blaming other people for your own mistakes. Figure out what happened, think of a solution and DO IT! No need to rant, it just takes more time away from actually working towards a solution.

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Old 06-21-2012, 12:50 AM   #56
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I thought you already did.



They didn't open and inspect the product (I called and asked if they do that). But you are criticizing us for not doing it. That's the point. I'm glad you are happy with them, as you should be; good company.

Are we clear?

I got a copy of what Jeff wrote you, so I know it was sent. I'd like a yes or no immediately so we don't waste any more of your time.
e-mailed you

(i guess what you are offering is what I proposed to Jeff when I called him on Monday)
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:03 AM   #57
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Just curious.. you are constantly repeating the words @positive, satisfaction, value@ - why would you do this?
I can understand how it would seem that way. Once the larger context has been rejected, all that's left are meaningless disconnected words.

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Are you a McDonalds shift manager or something?
No... but I would make a very good one because I have a positive attitude, take personal satisfaction in doing a good job, and would have a high value to my employer.

Seriously, I've been a modestly successful businessman for 30 years and have learned a lot about myself as well as others. Your taking the time here to relate your situation as well as sharing how you have chosen to respond to it is far better than any lesson that could ever be taught in school.
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:24 AM   #58
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I can understand how it would seem that way. Once the larger context has been rejected, all that's left are meaningless disconnected words.



No... but I would make a very good one because I have a positive attitude, take personal satisfaction in doing a good job, and would have a high value to my employer.

Seriously, I've been a modestly successful businessman for 30 years and have learned a lot about myself as well as others. Your taking the time here to relate your situation as well as sharing how you have chosen to respond to it is far better than any lesson that could ever be taught in school.
It was funny to read @just do something with your tools@ for the first time.. this mantra became boring 25 minutes later and sure is totally out-of-place now. Moreover, would you read carefully your own posts here, it appears that your time better be spent on something different than posting in this thread (something positive, adding value and creating personal satisfaction).
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:38 AM   #59
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Was offered a solution by Jeff that is totally acceptable. Case closed.
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:39 AM   #60
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It was funny to read...
It's been a pleasure to entertain you.
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Old 06-21-2012, 01:48 AM   #61
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I still dont see the point in bashing Garm. Hes done so much for our community and really paving a way for us to enjoy our cars to the fullest. Just bashing him about his business is just wasting his time and taking away from work he is working on rather than defending himself against bogus claims. I personally know Jeff and Garm and I can say their both one of a kind people who wouldnt want to even think of screwing peopleout of their hard earned money but if Ive learned one thing in aftermarket parts on a car is that builds hardly go according to plan. Theres always a kink of some sort that needs to be worked out and you just have to be flexible and work with it. Stop blaming other people for your own mistakes. Figure out what happened, think of a solution and DO IT! No need to rant, it just takes more time away from actually working towards a solution.

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I do not want to repeat why I did all this..

Interestingly, I leared a lot about both MI guys over the last couple days:

- Jeff: totally nice guy, very professional ar all times, (called him on Monday and I am sort of tough negotiator)

- Garm: irresponsible, impulsive, and generally evil
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:12 AM   #62
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^ LOL, thank you; I'm glad I hired Jeff.

I'm quite sure we both learned a lot about you as well.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:15 AM   #63
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:41 AM   #64
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- Jeff: totally nice guy, very professional ar all times, (called him on Monday and I am sort of tough negotiator)

- Garm: irresponsible, impulsive, and generally evil


Personally, I found both to be extremely professional and dealt with my questions and concerns on my projector kit promptly and courteously. It didn't lead to me airing my dirty laundry all over the forum about one of only two vendors that supports this site.

Kinda funny you're all about Jeff when he works for Garm. Not the other way around.

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Old 06-21-2012, 09:26 AM   #65
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I do not want to repeat why I did all this..

Interestingly, I leared a lot about both MI guys over the last couple days:

- Jeff: totally nice guy, very professional ar all times, (called him on Monday and I am sort of tough negotiator)

- Garm: irresponsible, impulsive, and generally evil

We learned a lot about you...

Tolmach: irresponsible, impulsive, coward
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:27 AM   #66
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I do not want to repeat why I did all this..

Interestingly, I leared a lot about both MI guys over the last couple days:

- Jeff: totally nice guy, very professional ar all times, (called him on Monday and I am sort of tough negotiator)

- Garm: irresponsible, impulsive, and generally evil

We learned a lot about you...

Tolmach: irresponsible, impulsive, coward
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Old 06-21-2012, 12:15 PM   #67
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I do not want to repeat why I did all this..
No need to, Tolmach. It's a safe assumption that you will repeat this pattern as you continue poison your business relationships with others.

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- Jeff: totally nice guy, very professional ar all times, (called him on Monday and I am sort of tough negotiator)
You only think you won because you got your way. You haven't considered the damage done to your own moral character.

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In my business, you're precisely the kind of person I refuse to deal with. When I meet clients who have acquired a collection of complaints about other people with whom they no longer do business, I don't do business with them either.

Well, this certainly has been revealing. As everyone sets an example for others...

...even if it's a bad one.

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Old 06-21-2012, 01:03 PM   #68
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:41 PM   #69
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this fits just right about here..
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:14 PM   #70
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Glad all this is over but it was entertaining!
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:07 PM   #71
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I feel like buying something from MI right now just to piss Tolmach off.. No worries Garm, cant please everyone haha
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:09 PM   #72
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Hey Garm did you inspect my intake I ordered before you shipped it. Just wondering!
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