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why? · 05-15-2006, 09:16 AM

Honda is just a second rate car company.

Wow, you just want to lie down and let anyone come here and insult us, don't you.

Sorry, I don't do it that way. Someone insults me and the gloves come off.

Thirty-Nine · 05-15-2006, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corey415

Again, why would one buy a Yaris LB as a opposed to a Corolla?
Perhaps some prefer a hatchback configuration? The fuel efficiency really isnt that different either. The passenger volume is very similar as well.

Agreed.

This was the problem Toyota had with the Echo, too. With a bunch of options, the Echo cost the same (if not more) than a Corolla. I don't want to see this happen with the Yaris. However, a fully loaded Yaris S can cost $17K and the Corolla is more powerful, better milage, more interior volume and may have better crash tests. So why by a Yaris? Personally, I like the Yaris' looks more than the Corolla, and if you don't put every bell and whistle on it, it'll be cheaper than a Corolla.

However, it's no different than the Fit/Civic argument. Hell, a 2007 Civic EX starts at $18,000. But then again, that's why Honda has introduced the Fit — it's the new entry-level car. The Yaris is Toyota's entry-level car. The Corolla, Civic, Mazda 3 and so on and so fourth, are no longer "cheap" cars.

Idjiit · 05-15-2006, 11:56 AM

Ummm... why buy the Liftback instead of a Corolla? Because it's a hathback. Why buy the Liftback instead of a Corolla hatchback (the Matrix)? Because it's $5,000 cheaper.

Thirty-Nine · 05-15-2006, 11:59 AM

Agreed. I like the liftback more than the Corolla. However, given the historically unpopular sentiment towards two-door hatchbacks in the U.S., I think the Yaris might have an uphill battle. Don't get me wrong, the liftback is über appealing to me, because I love hatchbacks (two- and four-door). But, generally, it seems most Americans don't dig two-door hatchbacks.

bikergal · 05-15-2006, 12:29 PM

OMG everyone! Take a deep breath.... The flame wars

arn't necessary are they?

There are thousands and thousands of different makes and models out there. Its all a matter of personal preference which car/truck/suv you choose to buy. Just because some like the Yaris and some like the Fit doesn't make you a bad person. You can argue until you're blue in the face why one is better than the other. It just doesn't make sense.

Just be happy you found a car that suits your taste and budget.

If I hear one more person say "Why not buy the Corolla?" I am gonna loose it. This is a Yaris forum for people who like the Yaris. I had a dealership try and offer me a Corolla instead of a Yaris. I told the guy if I wanted the Corolla I would have asked for it. He was too lazy to try and get me one from another dealership or to order it I guess. He just lost a customer

They are two different cars all together and one costs more than the other.

I want something small, cute and fun to drive. The Yaris seems to fit the bill perfect.

*steps off soapbox*

ricko · 05-15-2006, 12:34 PM

That is certainly true in a historical sense "39". I think it will take time for people to recognize the efficiency of the compact hatchback, both in fuel economy and in functionality. The difference between the 3 and 5 door (2 and 4 to you) is about $600 in Canada. For some that is more important than the extra 2 doors.

Thirty-Nine · 05-15-2006, 01:50 PM

In fact, the Yaris is one of only five two-door hatchbacks sold in the U.S. at the moment. The others are the Ford Focus ZX3, Mini, VW GTI and Beetle. Plenty of five-doors (four-door hatches), but very few two-door hatches.

hhcchen · 05-15-2006, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuffy

my buddy just ordered a fit today, i will take some comparison photos once he gets it,

then i will kick his ass in a little yaris vs fit action!

any news...?
did he get the fit yet...?
we would love to see some more comparison photos...

(side by side, front, rear, profile, bumpers, ground clearance... etc...)

or even some actions...

60 Somethings · 05-15-2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goose

I recently bought an xA for my wife. It's a great car, but the gearing isn't very good for highway driving (at ~65-70MPH the engine's turning 3,500RPM's). I can't bring myself to try a Fit out of fear that the Fit is a more relaxed highway cruiser.

I took the MPH per 1,000 RPM figures from the data in the C&D review article for both the Yaris and the Fit and made a spreadsheet. The Fit tachs higher, basically due to it's 4.29 rear end vs. the Yaris' 3.72 rear end.

Here are some comparisons: (Yaris RPM 1st, & Fit RPM 2nd)

2nd @ 30 MPH = 3,093 vs. 3,571

3rd @ 45 MPH = 3,191 vs. 3,782

4th @ 60 MPH = 3,141 vs. 3,704

5th @ 70 MPH = 3,097 vs. 3,398

5th @ 90 MPH = 3,982 vs. 4,369

Conclusion: The Honda engine is definitely spinning faster to achieve it's performance figures.

Lou

silverRS · 05-15-2006, 03:32 PM

Doesn't matter to me or Im sure every yaris owner here. I chose the yaris because of the nice euro styling, excellent interior package, reliability, fuel economy, and last but not least TRD baby!!!

60 Somethings · 05-15-2006, 04:24 PM

For the record, here's what the 3dr liftback looks like with the 60/40 rear seat folded flat.

Lots of room.

Lou

corey415 · 05-15-2006, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 60 Somethings

Conclusion: The Honda engine is definitely spinning faster to achieve it's performance figures.

Lou

The 5AT on the Fit revs much lower at freeway speeds. I dont know how much slower it is though than the 5MT.

60mph 2100 rpm
70mph 2450 rpm
80mph 2800 rpm

stuffy · 05-15-2006, 07:41 PM

Hey 60somethings, how did you get the fold-flat seats in a non-rs model?

Quote:

any news...?
did he get the fit yet...?
we would love to see some more comparison photos...
(side by side, front, rear, profile, bumpers, ground clearance... etc...)
or even some actions

apparently he gets the fit at the beginning of june, so i will be sure to post some pics as soon as he gets it.

60 Somethings · 05-15-2006, 10:13 PM

Stuffy,

The 60/40 split rear seat is part of the Power Pkg on the U.S. liftback.

I'm in USA's Vancouver - as the Mayor refers to the City - better known as Vancouver, Washington.

We were lucky to have an excellent fleet mgr to work with and he managed to find, and grab, an almost fully loaded stick-shift liftback for us. Wife and I love driving it!

Lou

stuffy · 05-15-2006, 10:15 PM

ahh, i missed the usa part on your name, my bad.

thanks

benfal2001 · 05-17-2006, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leenis24

Its ugly, anyone else agree with me. After staring so long at the Yaris, the FIT, being so damn identicle to the Yaris spec's wise, i really dont like the way its designed. Its just plain ugly to me. I think they should have taken some design keys from there new civics and accords and incorporated them into the FIT. I love the looks of the new civics, their hot. Plus i think the FIT would look better as a 3-door rather then a 5-door IMO.

I see you still don't understand the Fit's goals. 3 doors is now obselete and no practical at all. The civics is for more older drivers. Fit is for young people!

why? · 05-18-2006, 09:01 AM

Buh bye loser.

Ziv · 05-18-2006, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benfal2001

I see you still don't understand the Fit's goals. 3 doors is now obselete and no practical at all. The civics is for more older drivers. Fit is for young people!

3 Doors is now OBSELETE? I think the differ.

05-15-2006, 09:16 AM	#73
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	Honda is just a second rate car company. Wow, you just want to lie down and let anyone come here and insult us, don't you. Sorry, I don't do it that way. Someone insults me and the gloves come off. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

05-15-2006, 10:13 PM	#86
60 Somethings Old Folks View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris LB, 2006 4Runner V8 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Vancouver, USA Posts: 222	Stuffy, The 60/40 split rear seat is part of the Power Pkg on the U.S. liftback. I'm in USA's Vancouver - as the Mayor refers to the City - better known as Vancouver, Washington. We were lucky to have an excellent fleet mgr to work with and he managed to find, and grab, an almost fully loaded stick-shift liftback for us. Wife and I love driving it! Lou Last edited by 60 Somethings; 05-15-2006 at 11:43 PM.

05-18-2006, 09:01 AM	#89
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	Buh bye loser. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

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bikergal Drives: Tacoma 4x4 Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA Posts: 101	OMG everyone! Take a deep breath.... The flame wars arn't necessary are they? There are thousands and thousands of different makes and models out there. Its all a matter of personal preference which car/truck/suv you choose to buy. Just because some like the Yaris and some like the Fit doesn't make you a bad person. You can argue until you're blue in the face why one is better than the other. It just doesn't make sense. Just be happy you found a car that suits your taste and budget. If I hear one more person say "Why not buy the Corolla?" I am gonna loose it. This is a Yaris forum for people who like the Yaris. I had a dealership try and offer me a Corolla instead of a Yaris. I told the guy if I wanted the Corolla I would have asked for it. He was too lazy to try and get me one from another dealership or to order it I guess. He just lost a customer They are two different cars all together and one costs more than the other. I want something small, cute and fun to drive. The Yaris seems to fit the bill perfect. steps off soapbox

05-15-2006, 12:34 PM	#78
ricko Drives: Copper-Orange Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Georgian Triangle Ont. Posts: 310	That is certainly true in a historical sense "39". I think it will take time for people to recognize the efficiency of the compact hatchback, both in fuel economy and in functionality. The difference between the 3 and 5 door (2 and 4 to you) is about $600 in Canada. For some that is more important than the extra 2 doors.

05-15-2006, 01:50 PM	#79
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	In fact, the Yaris is one of only five two-door hatchbacks sold in the U.S. at the moment. The others are the Ford Focus ZX3, Mini, VW GTI and Beetle. Plenty of five-doors (four-door hatches), but very few two-door hatches.

05-15-2006, 03:32 PM	#82
silverRS Drives: 2007 Yaris RS Silver Join Date: May 2006 Location: Ottawa Ontario Canada Posts: 80	Doesn't matter to me or Im sure every yaris owner here. I chose the yaris because of the nice euro styling, excellent interior package, reliability, fuel economy, and last but not least TRD baby!!!

05-15-2006, 10:15 PM	#87
stuffy Drives: 06 yaris 5-dr le man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: ontario, canada Posts: 699	ahh, i missed the usa part on your name, my bad. thanks