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Old 05-05-2009, 05:33 PM   #109
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Support the companies that design and build products for the enthusiast.

DON'T support knockoff companies that try to undercut other companies that provide quality & original products into the market place.

Sooner or later those knockoff companies won't have companies to copy from.







Knockoff wheels support terrorism......

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Old 05-05-2009, 05:53 PM   #110
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What? you dont like red?


well anyway, the point was that no one has exclusive rights to a style.

Frankly, I think Rota is business smart for recreating 'Popular' designs and selling them at reasonable prices( assuming there not breaking patents or copyrights) Rather than wasting money on R&D for a custom line that might not sell as well.
would you buy a "replica" yaris that was lower quality?
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Old 05-05-2009, 06:37 PM   #111
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Im going to buy Rota grids.. i would not spend 2G'2 for wheels on a yaris.. I have volks GT7's on my 98 240sx

they are 80$ and light.. and im sure a yaris would never brake them unless you hid a curb sideways at 50
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:11 PM   #112
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would you buy a "replica" yaris that was lower quality?

if they made a fake yaris kit car, with a toyota engine id be on that like white on rice
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:12 PM   #113
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not buying rotas because they are replicas is like not buying a yaris because it doesnt use the original design of the original combustion engine, because its just a copy
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:14 PM   #114
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i would not spend 2G'2 for wheels on a yaris..
you don't have to :D

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Old 05-05-2009, 07:17 PM   #115
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Support the companies that design and build products for the enthusiast.

DON'T support knockoff companies that try to undercut other companies that provide quality & original products into the market place.

Sooner or later those knockoff companies won't have companies to copy from.



Knockoff wheels support terrorism......

you fail to realize that there are people who will NEVER spend ridiculous amounts of $$ on wheels. does it cost Volk 3X the money to design a wheel? hell no, they pay some entry level 3D cad guy minimum wage to design their shit, so why do we go on and on about it being the original design. it's a round cylinder with a center hub and spokes for god's sake.

i'm not pro-rota. but i am anti-waste. and $2000 wheels on a $9000 car is a waste, unless you can PROVE that said wheels increase the resale value of the car by $2000.

nope?


then give up. without knockoff wheels, there would be no market for "genuine" wheels. it gives you wheeleeetist assholes something to snub your nose at the rest of us for, and the fanbois something to save for 6months to be able to finally put on their econobox, followed immediately by them getting curbed to shit by a valet or your mom/sister/girlfriend (no sexist comment, just stating the way it's gone down in my past)

what's worth more, a curbed to hell volk or a curbed to hell rota?
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:21 PM   #116
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here's what i think about rota.

if you're buying wheels, and you CHOOSE a rota, you have no imagination. there are plenty of other quality non-jdm-fanboi-elite-asshole wheels out there that aren't direct knockoffs...

just stay away from XXR/herpemax wheels lol
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:29 PM   #117
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here's what i think about rota.

if you're buying wheels, and you CHOOSE a rota, you have no imagination. there are plenty of other quality non-jdm-fanboi-elite-asshole wheels out there that aren't direct knockoffs...

just stay away from XXR/herpemax wheels lol
I chose Rota because i like the wheels im gettin (slipstreams) im sure its a knockoff style but they are cheap and readily available. And ya i know everyone has this wheel, but i dont care because i like it, so what?? Its a proven wheel company and i hear more good than bad as far as performance goes.
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Old 05-05-2009, 07:31 PM   #118
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I chose Rota because i like the wheels im gettin (slipstreams) im sure its a knockoff style but they are cheap and readily available. And ya i know everyone has this wheel, but i dont care because i like it, so what?? Its a proven wheel company and i hear more good than bad as far as performance goes.
how exactly does a wheel perform?

slips are heavy as hell
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:15 PM   #119
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The market that the big names shoot for is a higher level/target than what rota can make. So the people buying knockoffs are not really hurting anyone.

Wheels are wheels, they are worth the same regardless of what car they are on. Cars depreciate, wheels depreciate. People who are smart, will sell their wheels separately.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:16 PM   #120
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The market that the big names shoot for is a higher level/target than what rota can make. So the people buying knockoffs are not really hurting anyone.

Wheels are wheels, they are worth the same regardless of what car they are on. Cars depreciate, wheels depreciate. People who are smart, will sell their wheels separately.
agreed

but would you pay $1000 more for a used yaris simply because it had curbed Volks on it instead of curbed Rotas for $1000 cheaper total cost?
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:19 PM   #121
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I would do neither. If the car has curbed wheels, i would want stockers on it. I would not pay more for curbed volks over rotas.

My friend bought a set of Quality 3 piece full forged 17 x 9 + 20 BBS RS wheels used for a whopping $600 dollars. (not for a yaris). Shop around, and you can find quality, if that is what you truly seek. He actually bought a set of 6 wheels for $1000 dollars. 17 x 9 (4), and 17 x 8 (2). He sold the 17 x 8s for $400 dollars.
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Old 05-05-2009, 08:22 PM   #122
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if they made a fake yaris kit car, with a toyota engine id be on that like white on rice
but it wouldn't come with a toyota engine and it wouldn't be a kit car. It would just "look" exactly like a yaris and it'd fall apart more (on avg), and be heavier

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not buying rotas because they are replicas is like not buying a yaris because it doesnt use the original design of the original combustion engine, because its just a copy
AHAHA whoa whoa when did I ever say we were talking about the functions of a circle? we're talking about the visual design.

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i'm not pro-rota. but i am anti-waste. and $2000 wheels on a $9000 car is a waste, unless you can PROVE that said wheels increase the resale value of the car by $2000.

nope?
when does any mod add the same value? never. :)


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I chose Rota because i like the wheels im gettin (slipstreams) im sure its a knockoff style but they are cheap and readily available. And ya i know everyone has this wheel, but i dont care because i like it, so what?? Its a proven wheel company and i hear more good than bad as far as performance goes.
just for fun....(yes we know the dude hit something hard, you can't lie the wheel broke)

A few "demotivationals" I made ages ago from a broken rota.



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Old 05-05-2009, 08:27 PM   #123
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The market that the big names shoot for is a higher level/target than what rota can make. So the people buying knockoffs are not really hurting anyone.

Wheels are wheels, they are worth the same regardless of what car they are on. Cars depreciate, wheels depreciate. People who are smart, will sell their wheels separately.
exactly, which is why this is really just a thread to get people a stirrin.

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you fail to realize that there are people who will NEVER spend ridiculous amounts of $$ on wheels. does it cost Volk 3X the money to design a wheel? hell no, they pay some entry level 3D cad guy minimum wage to design their shit, so why do we go on and on about it being the original design. it's a round cylinder with a center hub and spokes for god's sake.

i'm not pro-rota. but i am anti-waste. and $2000 wheels on a $9000 car is a waste, unless you can PROVE that said wheels increase the resale value of the car by $2000.

nope?


then give up. without knockoff wheels, there would be no market for "genuine" wheels. it gives you wheeleeetist assholes something to snub your nose at the rest of us for, and the fanbois something to save for 6months to be able to finally put on their econobox, followed immediately by them getting curbed to shit by a valet or your mom/sister/girlfriend (no sexist comment, just stating the way it's gone down in my past)

what's worth more, a curbed to hell volk or a curbed to hell rota?
What you failed to realize that in my post I did not mention anything about JDM wheels like VOLK or any other JDM company.
There are other companies out there that design and develop their own wheels for a reasonable prices
Support those companies that bring originality into this industry
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exactly, which is why this is really just a thread to get people a stirrin.


meh i just started it cuz i was curious
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:35 PM   #126
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how exactly does a wheel perform?

slips are heavy as hell
And i dont think that 12lbs falls under the category "heavy as hell". Considering the weight of the wheels on the car now...

When i start racing formula 1, ill be sure not to get rotas, but for autox i think they will be fine for now.
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