Did anyone installed apexi SAFC ?? - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

staticorex · 06-18-2007, 11:54 AM

They were. But have you taken off the ECU? It's crazy. I do bolt on stuff and cosmetic modifications. This electronic stuff is just too above me. I would break something.

Turbo&Auto · 06-18-2007, 12:18 PM

You dont need to remove the ECU, just tap into the wires coming out of it. But like you said above, and like I told you, its just plain a waste on your car.

staticorex · 06-18-2007, 12:37 PM

Oh yeah. I guess you could. But still, like you said. :)

Doc Zaius · 06-18-2007, 12:45 PM

Why would it be a waste? Would more power mods be needed first to realize the potenital from the apexi?

Turbo&Auto · 06-18-2007, 02:29 PM

No. The car NA isnt going to make ANY real power without a buildup. I/H/E on this car add maybe 15whp, tuning AF alone MAY net another 5. You would need an Emanage and the above mods to make a worthwhile difference IMO.

Katana · 06-18-2007, 03:33 PM

Thanks for the info guys.I am between the Apexi and the Emanage...I have CAI and a tuned exhaust system and I hope that I will gain some hp...

Turbo&Auto · 06-18-2007, 07:12 PM

Emanage anyday. Overtime the ECU will override the SAFC and "tune itself" back to its factory ideal settings. Been down this road with my Turbo Matrix. I ran a SAFC for a VERY short time. Got the Emanage and WOAH, HUGE difference. The ECU never overrode my settings like the SAFC did. ALSO, you can tune timing with the emanage. If you have an auto, get the ultimate and you can adjust the tq converter lockup and some other crap.

Hope this helps :)

Katana · 06-19-2007, 11:44 AM

It was easy setting up the Emanage?The Emanage is same for every car like the Safc or you have to find a special one for the Yaris?

SmallCarGuy · 09-01-2007, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbo&Auto

Emanage anyday. Overtime the ECU will override the SAFC and "tune itself" back to its factory ideal settings. Been down this road with my Turbo Matrix. I ran a SAFC for a VERY short time. Got the Emanage and WOAH, HUGE difference. The ECU never overrode my settings like the SAFC did. ALSO, you can tune timing with the emanage. If you have an auto, get the ultimate and you can adjust the tq converter lockup and some other crap.

Hope this helps :)

The emanage isn't too tough to set up at all... and TIMING is where it's at for the F/I guys... for N/A, even an emanage is more hassle than it's worth, unless you start on the internals and such. Bolt-Ons+Emanage=blah.

IMHO - The SAFC-II is worthless for Toyotas/Scions... Just like TurboAuto said... it overrides the settings quick, plus CELs are a pain to work around... not a good option with other comparable priced toys out there... only thing it's good for is a nifty little screen that shows your throttle position and RPM and fun stuff like that. I played with it with my tC and quickly just let it be a nice screen.

Katana · 09-02-2007, 04:19 AM

I see, tnx for the explanations.

06-18-2007, 11:54 AM	#19
staticorex View User's Garage Drives: Sc'd Yaris Sedan. Join Date: May 2007 Location: civilwar town. Posts: 660	They were. But have you taken off the ECU? It's crazy. I do bolt on stuff and cosmetic modifications. This electronic stuff is just too above me. I would break something. __________________ Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum.

06-18-2007, 12:37 PM	#21
staticorex View User's Garage Drives: Sc'd Yaris Sedan. Join Date: May 2007 Location: civilwar town. Posts: 660	Oh yeah. I guess you could. But still, like you said. :) __________________ Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum.

06-18-2007, 12:45 PM	#22
Doc Zaius Lurker supreme! View User's Garage Drives: old and boosted! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 792	Why would it be a waste? Would more power mods be needed first to realize the potenital from the apexi? __________________ 2006 Red Blitzed RS 5-door

06-18-2007, 03:33 PM	#24
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	Thanks for the info guys.I am between the Apexi and the Emanage...I have CAI and a tuned exhaust system and I hope that I will gain some hp... __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

06-19-2007, 11:44 AM	#26
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	It was easy setting up the Emanage?The Emanage is same for every car like the Safc or you have to find a special one for the Yaris? __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

06-18-2007, 12:18 PM	#20
Turbo&Auto Drives: 07 Join Date: May 2007 Location: home Posts: 236	You dont need to remove the ECU, just tap into the wires coming out of it. But like you said above, and like I told you, its just plain a waste on your car.

06-18-2007, 02:29 PM	#23
Turbo&Auto Drives: 07 Join Date: May 2007 Location: home Posts: 236	No. The car NA isnt going to make ANY real power without a buildup. I/H/E on this car add maybe 15whp, tuning AF alone MAY net another 5. You would need an Emanage and the above mods to make a worthwhile difference IMO.

06-18-2007, 07:12 PM	#25
Turbo&Auto Drives: 07 Join Date: May 2007 Location: home Posts: 236	Emanage anyday. Overtime the ECU will override the SAFC and "tune itself" back to its factory ideal settings. Been down this road with my Turbo Matrix. I ran a SAFC for a VERY short time. Got the Emanage and WOAH, HUGE difference. The ECU never overrode my settings like the SAFC did. ALSO, you can tune timing with the emanage. If you have an auto, get the ultimate and you can adjust the tq converter lockup and some other crap. Hope this helps :)

09-02-2007, 04:19 AM	#28
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	I see, tnx for the explanations. __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

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