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Old 02-11-2017, 08:49 AM   #1
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Piggyback ECU upgrade

had a basic timing advance ecu when i changed to E85..but i felt like its not enough..
instead of going for cams im giving shot to piggyback ecu with more controls..so i took them out and installed piggyback ecu..advance timing is set same as before, now controls fuel injection(1jz injectors) and fuel cut at 7,000rpm(factory 6,500rpm)..no, i cannot pass 7,000rpm without proper cams and after market valves/springs..
it feels strong and smooth through out the whole rpm band, i think fuel injections doing its job..20170211_160939.jpg20170211_135138.jpg

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Old 02-11-2017, 12:30 PM   #2
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Piggyback ECU upgrade

Interesting... never heard of a brand called "Piggyback" - my logic when I read that is as if you were saying I drive a "Car" which in fact you do... but instead of calling it Toyota Yaris - they literally name it "Car"



Can you give us more info on this "Piggyback" piggyback?

Can you tell us more about this basic timing advance ECU or was the brand literally called that as well and it's just not something found in the states? Did it only advance timing and not able to retard any timing?

I have tried reading about the KKT 2.0 piggyback but I don't understand the language they speak in most videos that explain what it is and what it does.

Do you recall the specs on the 1JZ injectors and why you chose them over the 1ZZ that are rated at 255cc?
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Old 02-11-2017, 12:41 PM   #3
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Interesting... never heard of a brand called "Piggyback" - my logic when I read that is as if you were saying I drive a "Car" which in fact you do... but instead of calling it Toyota Yaris - they literally name it "Car"

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Can you give us more info on this "Piggyback" piggyback?

Can you tell us more about this basic timing advance ECU or was the brand literally called that as well and it's just not something found in the states? Did it only advance timing and not able to retard any timing?

I have tried reading about the KKT 2.0 piggyback but I don't understand the language they speak in most videos that explain what it is and what it does.

Do you recall the specs on the 1JZ injectors and why you chose them over the 1ZZ that are rated at 255cc?
its actually brand called Ultimate Project Drag Race Garage(check facebook).. your from the states and know about KKT..yes its very similar to KKT piggyback..heres the ecu info on the bottom..i copied and paste them below, i translated from thai to english..

i chose 1jz injectors because....i dont know haha...i just did? its the most cheapest and common injectors out here in asia..

Tuning fuel injection directly by lifting the 0 + 250 (table 32X16 TPS / MAP).
Tuning ignition + 80 ° C, -120 (table 32X16 TPS / MAP).
Pedal Shift Timing
Pedal Shift Injection
Acceleration Enrichment
Tuning 2 Mode operation.
Coil has more time charts.
Release cycle engine
The O2 viewed
Calibrate leg throttle
Calibrate Map it
Mis fire / Off Mode operation.
Launch switch (the lock out) * Auto functions do not show.
Anti Lag (gear around the fall).
Shiftlight (position shift).
Release cycle engine
Tuning Vtec
Close loop tuning 😇
Tuning Vvti
Nitrous injected
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Interesting... never heard of a brand called "Piggyback" - my logic when I read that is as if you were saying I drive a "Car" which in fact you do... but instead of calling it Toyota Yaris - they literally name it "Car"



Can you give us more info on this "Piggyback" piggyback?

Can you tell us more about this basic timing advance ECU or was the brand literally called that as well and it's just not something found in the states? Did it only advance timing and not able to retard any timing?

I have tried reading about the KKT 2.0 piggyback but I don't understand the language they speak in most videos that explain what it is and what it does.

Do you recall the specs on the 1JZ injectors and why you chose them over the 1ZZ that are rated at 255cc?

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Old 08-15-2017, 09:35 AM   #4
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How about the HKS Is?
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Old 08-15-2017, 09:55 AM   #5
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How about the HKS Is?
go check the function out on hks is bro....
i think every piggy back ecu makes your engine perform 20~30% better...i bet standalone does fabolous job...

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Old 08-15-2017, 09:56 AM   #6
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go check the function out on hks is bro....
i think every piggy back ecu makes your engine perform 20~30% better...i bet standalone does fabolous job...

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standalone isnt OBD2/ inspection legal on MK3.

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Old 08-15-2017, 11:00 AM   #7
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standalone isnt OBD2/ inspection legal on MK3.

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Don't know if they have inspections in Thailand where he's from...
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Don't know if they have inspections in Thailand where he's from...
I use this form to find legal solutions for the Us Market.

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Old 08-16-2017, 08:30 PM   #9
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You can use an AEM FiC 6 (Piggyback) and still pass inspection. Has functions for two maps. I'm in New Jersey and can pass no problem.
I'm currently running and have been for a while a Blitz supercharger ect ect.
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You can use an AEM FiC 6 (Piggyback) and still pass inspection. Has functions for two maps. I'm in New Jersey and can pass no problem.
I'm currently running and have been for a while a Blitz supercharger ect ect.
does it retain obd2 tho without cel

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You can use an AEM FiC 6 (Piggyback) and still pass inspection. Has functions for two maps. I'm in New Jersey and can pass no problem.
I'm currently running and have been for a while a Blitz supercharger ect ect.
theres an article on Aemelectronics related to a honda fooling obd2 sensor buuuut. i mean how to fool the yaris isnt toyota self learning?

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Old 08-16-2017, 09:04 PM   #13
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Yes retains stock Ecu. Think of this as an in between the engine and the Ecu. It sends singles data back to the Ecu to assume normal conditions meanwhile useing your own map. If you tune wrong you will throw codes. If tuned right you won't. As I said before. I live in New Jersey where state inspection is mandatory anything 95 or newer.
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Yes retains stock Ecu. Think of this as an in between the engine and the Ecu. It sends singles data back to the Ecu to assume normal conditions meanwhile useing your own map. If you tune wrong you will throw codes. If tuned right you won't. As I said before. I live in New Jersey where state inspection is mandatory anything 95 or newer.
can I see your printout? :o

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What do you mean by print out.
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What do you mean by print out.
your obd2 inspection printout

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If we pass we don't get paperwork they just scrap off our old sticker and put a new one on. You are tho allowed to have 1 monitor not complete. As long as the rest are. I can use my torque app tomorrow and take a video of the monitors
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If we pass we don't get paperwork they just scrap off our old sticker and put a new one on. You are tho allowed to have 1 monitor not complete. As long as the rest are. I can use my torque app tomorrow and take a video of the monitors
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