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Old 06-03-2015, 02:59 PM   #19
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exactly 448.6798 engine hours or 9876.25 shifts, which ever comes first ;)

depends on driving conditions and driver. What you have posted above is various owners real world examples of how long an oem Yaris clutch can last. They seem to range from 60,000km upwards to 350,000+km. Essentially if you are good at driving standard and aren't racing your Yaris/drive in a clutch saving way then you won't really ever have to worry about replacing the clutch unless you plan on making it a 20 year car which it's more than capable of being
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Old 06-03-2015, 04:28 PM   #20
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Also, just like water pumps and such, there are lemon/substandard clutches in every run, due to production variances, design or whatever. The question is what % of Yaris clutches are lemons, and is it a higher % rate than normal (like their water pumps in the 2007/2008 models). Certain components for certain vehicles just have a higher failure rates than they reasonably should (like the cracked engine block syndrome in the 2006-2008 non-Si Honda Civics, for example).
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Old 06-03-2015, 04:53 PM   #21
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I'm at 160k on my clutch, clutch and transmission still works like its new. I changed the gear oil at 100k with Mobil1, other than that - no maintenance or fixes needed.
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Old 06-03-2015, 10:24 PM   #22
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The original question in this thread post was not answered as to what is the life span of the clutch in these yaris cars? anybody?

I'm at 149k miles in my 09 and still shifting normal. I put about
480 commute hwy miles a week to and from work.
Unfortunately, there really is no such thing as an average or median lifespan of a clutch on any car. However, there are average clutch lifespan based on driver, road & traffic conditions, and driver experience. In my early 20s 65k miles was my clutch life expectancy. By 35 it jumped to 90k, at 50 I expect 160K to 180K miles. Its not the part, its how well the part is used. My wife could still ruin a clutch in 30K, which is why she does not drive a manual if at all possible. She a fair and reasonable driver but sucks at using the clutch well and she knows It's something she has no desire to learn.

I'm not ragging on any age or one sex over the other. I know women who are better with a clutch than I am and truckers who never need to press the pedal besides leaving from a stopped position to a tolling state. They are simply that good with the equipment they drive
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Old 06-04-2015, 03:21 AM   #23
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Unfortunately, there really is no such thing as an average or median lifespan of a clutch on any car. However, there are average clutch lifespan based on driver, road & traffic conditions, and driver experience. In my early 20s 65k miles was my clutch life expectancy. By 35 it jumped to 90k, at 50 I expect 160K to 180K miles. Its not the part, its how well the part is used. My wife could still ruin a clutch in 30K, which is why she does not drive a manual if at all possible. She a fair and reasonable driver but sucks at using the clutch well and she knows It's something she has no desire to learn.

I'm not ragging on any age or one sex over the other. I know women who are better with a clutch than I am and truckers who never need to press the pedal besides leaving from a stopped position to a tolling state. They are simply that good with the equipment they drive
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Old 06-05-2015, 12:17 AM   #24
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The original question in this thread post was not answered as to what is the life span of the clutch in these yaris cars? anybody?

I'm at 149k miles in my 09 and still shifting normal. I put about
480 commute hwy miles a week to and from work.
I have over 300,000 miles on the original clutch in my blue Yaris, as well as (in the past) over 150,000 miles and almost 200,000 miles on two other manual transmission cars purchased new that never needed the clutch replaced (those cars = doomed re other issues}. Also..never needed to replace the clutch in any cars with fewer miles...even 90k plus. The clutch on my '14 Yaris doesn't feel as though it will last as long as the one in my '07 Yaris.
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Old 06-05-2015, 07:51 AM   #25
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The clutch on my '14 Yaris doesn't feel as though it will last as long as the one in my '07 Yaris.
As I mentioned before, the drive by wire throttle response is NOT as good as the old cable actuated one. That this is a likely culprit for early clutch demise I believe cant be stated enough.
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Old 06-06-2015, 12:24 AM   #26
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As I mentioned before, the drive by wire throttle response is NOT as good as the old cable actuated one. That this is a likely culprit for early clutch demise I believe cant be stated enough.
Thanks. I thought someone had brought up a difference (and I thought I remembered it had been you), but I couldn't remember the actual difference.
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Old 06-06-2015, 07:48 AM   #27
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I agree with this completely. As much as I like the lighter more fuel efficient electric parts like the power steering, I have never found drive by wire as smooth.
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:49 AM   #29
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I agree with this completely. As much as I like the lighter more fuel efficient electric parts like the power steering, I have never found drive by wire as smooth.
PLEASE don't make me !

The lighter more efficient parts? The Yaris weighs 3-400 pounds more than the car it replaced the ECHO!

Pretty crazy lighter parts huh?
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PLEASE don't make me !

The lighter more efficient parts? The Yaris weighs 3-400 pounds more than the car it replaced the ECHO!

Pretty crazy lighter parts huh?
Uumm there's a lot of explanation for the different weights between the 2 different chassis. I'm pretty sure he was referring to drivetrain components. The additional safety equipment alone makes a lot of that difference. Hell just the fact that the echo has smaller wheels compare to the Yaris accounts for some of that weight difference. No matter how you slice it. Regardless I would be willing to make some compromises rather than drive or own the USDM echo because I am sorry but that car is ugly as f***.

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Old 06-06-2015, 02:00 PM   #31
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PLEASE don't make me !

The lighter more efficient parts? The Yaris weighs 3-400 pounds more than the car it replaced the ECHO!

Pretty crazy lighter parts huh?
Lol that gave me a good laugh!

I was referring to a standard power steering pump w/ fluid etc compared to an electrical one.
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My 2001 ECHO was cheap, economical, comfortable, capable, reliable and built to last a long long time.

That adds up to beautiful in my book!
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Lol that gave me a good laugh!

I was referring to a standard power steering pump w/ fluid etc compared to an electrical one.
Yes I know. I think that's great but a car as small and light as the ECHO and Yaris doesn't really even need PS...
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Yes I know. I think that's great but a car as small and light as the ECHO and Yaris doesn't really even need PS...
I agree. My 1986 Honda CRX-Si didn't have power steering way back in the day and I never missed it. It's an unnecessary feature in subcompacts, and more of a marketing bullet-point (as are power windows), if anything.
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104'000 km on factory clutch so far. I carry weight/passengers and race the car frequently. Speculate a service life of around 200'000 to 250'000 km with my driving. Should note that my downshifts are double clutch rev matched, as a force of habit, instead of using the clutch to speed up the input shaft.
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