GT17 too small?

[cali yaris]

I hope someone before me set you guys straight...It's just horrible.

You've clearly missed quite a bit of this discussion, you haven't played with a 1.5L Toyota motor, and your tone of disrespect (post count: 4) for some pretty knowledgable tuners is the horrible part. /rant off

[Split]

someone put one of these turbos on the yaris:
http://www.compturbo.com/products/in...&product=CT340
TO4E T3/T4 Hybrid turbocharger with a 40mm Comp wheel stage 1 turbine wheel .36 Non-Port T3 turbine housing.

The Triple Ball Bearing version is only $1600. Instant 250hp at low rpm would be nice!

[mikenacarato]

i think people forget that all cars are NOT the same.....a yaris motor is quite different than a turbo supra motor..correct me if im wrong though please.

[CDavis7M]

Originally Posted by Tamago

guessing you missed the part where we suggested bigger injectors to help with the "stock" AFR's ?

when the car goes into open loop mode, larger injectors will provide more than enough fuel to keep boost mode cool

This will work. But, obviously it's not the best idea. And considering the cost of a piggyback and a tune compared to the cost of a turbo, I don't see any reason to risk an engine to save a few bucks.

Originally Posted by cali yaris

You've clearly missed quite a bit of this discussion, you haven't played with a 1.5L Toyota motor, and your tone of disrespect (post count: 4) for some pretty knowledgable tuners is the horrible part. /rant off

I did miss some of the discussion. And sorry for the disrespect. But, calling out someone based on post count is also immature. I would expect better from a vendor.

Originally Posted by mikenacarato

a yaris motor is quite different than a turbo supra motor..correct me if im wrong though please.

That's what I was suggesting.

[mikenacarato]

just curious.....do you have a yaris cdavis? if not...why are you here?

[CDavis7M]

yes

[mikenacarato]

well welcome aboard.

[Nexus1155]

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18796

research is golden, if you were trying to bash him, ye lose all chance now... sorry mike lol

[cali yaris]

considering the cost of a piggyback and a tune compared to the cost of a turbo

Another problematic approach (so far) -- piggyback didn't work for me and several others. Doesn't mean it can't work, but you posted this (I'm guessing) without real world knowledge of a successful application on a Yaris. Another indication you are drawing from other-car experience, not specific to the Yaris, and also an indication you haven't read the other threads about tuning these cars. Not totally irrelevant, but not all that helpful either.

Sorry about the post count snipe, but you pissed me off. I found my happy space again since then.

[mikenacarato]

Originally Posted by Nexus1155

research is golden, if you were trying to bash him, ye lose all chance now... sorry mike lol

oooh man...im gonna lose sleep over this one...

[CDavis7M]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

Another problematic approach (so far) -- piggyback didn't work for me and several others. Doesn't mean it can't work, but you posted this (I'm guessing) without real world knowledge of a successful application on a Yaris.

You are right. I'll do more research before I make Yaris specific advice.

[The Spectacle]

CDavis7M don't be afraid to state your opinion in here. After all, it is your opinion and you are entitled to it. You don't need experience with a turbo 1NZ-FE to know that 90% of what's been posted in this thread that didn't have my name on it is complete and utter bullshit. I'd start quoting posts, but I'm not that bored right now. But, here are some of the brilliant, insightful highlights:

- You can run the stock ECU up to 'x' psi and the car will be fine...with no intercooler
- The stock ECU retards timing in boost based off the knock sensor and thats safe up to 'x' psi
- The 1NZ-FE is one of the best hp/lb in the world (That one takes the fucking cake)
- Running bigger injectors is a fix action for running lean in boost
- Running meth is a great fix to reduce your knocking motor in boost. In fact, its pretty much all you need if you're knocking

This is been quite entertaining. Besides cali yaris, none of you guys have a fucking clue what you're talking about. I don't need to post up my 'creds' to prove I know what I'm talking about and I certainly don't have to have experience playing with a turbo Yaris to know that more than half of you are full of really, really stinky shit when it comes to forced induction.

I encourage anyone reading this that is on the fence about doing some of the absurdly retarded shit suggested in this thread is to do some research outside of yarisworld to get a good idea of how to turbo a N/A car. Among all the crazy shit in this thread that you shouldn't do, the NUMBER ONE thing NOT to do is run your car with a stock ecu without AT LEAST a piggyback or another (better) form of engine management. Just don't do it. Please.

[mikenacarato]

YW - 1 Testicle - 0

[Jeemee]

Damn guys, this has turned out to an all out flame fest.

[Nexus1155]

MIKE! i said no... LOL, but yeah this has turned out to an all out flame fest, when you can pull a 2.7T engine all by yourself and tune the ECU by yourself via benchflashing then come back to me

because honestly i could do Hondas all day and night, its crazy stuff like a huge Euro engines literally stuffed into the bay without a hand of space to move in that makes you a champ..... Up next 4.2TT RS6 Engine :) can't wait for this beast

I mean you might have credentials and everything and know alot, but please don't act like you are God himself, i mean Tamago does it to be cocky and he is a smart ass dude like he really knows his stuff, but everyone has their limits too which is what you gotta remember, i mean .... I can't weld... I know I can't so I don't even bother and bring it to a shop

[Nexus1155]

I'm hungover//////q

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by The Spectacle

- Running meth is a great fix to reduce your knocking motor in boost. In fact, its pretty much all you need if you're knocking

"Knock" is a process where fuel combustion happens prior to ignition and is temperature and pressure based so by reducing ignition temps (water) and/or reducing the chances of preignition (methanol/higher octane fuel) it can indeed solve many minor to moderate knock issues. In addition to the yaris' keen ability to pull/retard timing at the drop of a hat, knock is almost inevitable in any FI application for this car, addressing it with water/meth and higher octane fuel is par for the course..... As noted in several threads in the FI forum, kthnxbyi

just to clarify if I used too many big words

please respect the hard work and dedication of the members who have tried and tested many different methods with the 1nz before posting like you know more than, what was it "98%" of us?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by Morgan

"Knock" is a process where fuel combustion happens prior to ignition and is temperature and pressure based so by reducing ignition temps (water) and/or reducing the chances of preignition (methanol/higher octane fuel) it can indeed solve many minor to moderate knock issues. In addition to the yaris' keen ability to pull/retard timing at the drop of a hat, knock is almost inevitable in any FI application for this car, addressing it with water/meth and higher octane fuel is par for the course..... As noted in several threads in the FI forum, kthnxbyi

just to clarify if I used too many big words

please respect the hard work and dedication of the members who have tried and tested many different methods with the 1nz before posting like you know more than, what was it "98%" of us?