Engine mods - why bother? - Page 7 - Toyota Yaris Forums

RoninMax · 08-22-2006, 01:25 AM

I think the biggest problem is the camshaft. There is no one out there to make aftermarket performance camshaft. You can put a ITB on the 1NZFE but the stock camshaft is so low lift than the ITB set up is usless. I am always a NA guy. On the other hand, the Blitz supercharger is a pretty good piece since you can choose to start you supercharge in OFF, LOW, MID, HIGH. So if you dont want to use the supercharger, you can just turn it off.
Unlike the Greddy one, They are always on.

ChinoCharles · 08-22-2006, 10:27 AM

While we are on the topic of N/A, what do you guys think are realistic numbers for a done up N/A Yaris? We're talking pistons, rods, cams, ITB's, everything. I always had more respect for people that tuned their cars without the use of FI. However, I don't think the 1NZFE is potent enough to put up any kind of numbers without FI. What do you all think?

heylookitsjames · 08-22-2006, 05:59 PM

I think it really depends on how much money you want to put in it... look at the much more primitive 4AGE... look at how much power the Forumla Atlantic version makes... I'm sure the 1NZFE could be built to have similar numbers to that, but it'd be mostly useless on the street. I assume you could get near what the greddy charger gives and still have it be streetable.

riceboy · 08-22-2006, 07:16 PM

but why sink so much money into this car?? having a nice looking customized car w/ some pep is one thing.. but putting anything more than 10g's is getting kind of out there...

SimmZ · 08-22-2006, 08:55 PM

I must admit I don't read all reply to that threat. Just by reading the initial question, I think it doesn't make sens. "Yaris" and "performance" in the same phrase doesn't make sense. "Yaris" and "cheap car", or "fuel economic", or "reliable cheap car" is more credible.

I don't buy an Echo for performance, I buy it because it was cheap and the fuel economy is awesome. It was very reliable too.

eTiMaGo · 09-23-2006, 05:59 AM

As far as I know the engine should be able to handle a good amount of power from a turbo. Here in Thailand there is another car called the Soluna Vios, basically a mini sedan, which also comes in a factory turbo version, but the engine is the same as the Yaris, and does 143HP. Here's abit of info:

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/11/...ta-vios-turbo/

So in theory it may be possible to transplant that engine into a yaris :D

ChinoCharles · 09-23-2006, 12:11 PM

Interesting...

w1ngzer0 · 09-26-2006, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdy

i think with this motor just get intake exhaust and header and be done with it and then get coilovers, sways and kick ass

Don't forget engine management

ItsMyDaily · 09-26-2006, 07:59 PM

probably be cheaper to just swap in the 2zz, or even maybe a k20 motor to get good power. It is very doable, and you'll be making more power then the car could ever make NA, or with a turbo by just adding a stock motor swap. The recent super street had a honda fit on the cover with a k20 making around 240whp!!!

sam07yaris · 09-26-2006, 11:22 PM

K20 swap with exact engine mounts to a 2z yaris engine? Are pigs flying or what?lol

soros151 · 09-27-2006, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam07yaris

K20 swap with exact engine mounts to a 2z yaris engine? Are pigs flying or what?lol

VERY TRUE!!

ItsMyDaily · 09-27-2006, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam07yaris

K20 swap with exact engine mounts to a 2z yaris engine? Are pigs flying or what?lol

What does your statement mean exactly I don't get it??

K20 swap would probably be the best upgrade as far as swaps go. So what if your going with a Honda engine. Probably will need to get Custom Mounts, but the car will be a beast. Considering it weigh it lot less then the rsx also.

ChinoCharles · 09-27-2006, 01:02 PM

Eww, Toyota with Honda engine. Stay true to your manufacturer, kiddies.

ItsMyDaily · 09-27-2006, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Eww, Toyota with Honda engine. Stay true to your manufacturer, kiddies.

Honestly though if your looking for is performence out of the Yaris then who cares what you put into it.

ChinoCharles · 09-27-2006, 03:17 PM

If you're looking for severe performance out of a Yaris, you should have bought a Fit.

ItsMyDaily · 09-27-2006, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

If you're looking for severe performance out of a Yaris, you should have bought a Fit.

I agree! That is why I didn't buy the Fit

soros151 · 09-27-2006, 03:33 PM

I really would enjoy a more toyota way, since the car u are using is a toyota. Cause if you are going with the engine of another brand greater problems will arise as plugs and electronic signals from other components. We are talking here, I think of a DD Yaris with 2ZZ swap, which I think is more..."in the line".

Violin · 09-27-2006, 04:27 PM

Has anyone read about the Mazdaspeed 3?

Nearly 300 HP in a Yaris would be insane... no?

08-22-2006, 01:25 AM	#109
RoninMax Drives: Yaris 3 Dr, AE86 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 49	I think the biggest problem is the camshaft. There is no one out there to make aftermarket performance camshaft. You can put a ITB on the 1NZFE but the stock camshaft is so low lift than the ITB set up is usless. I am always a NA guy. On the other hand, the Blitz supercharger is a pretty good piece since you can choose to start you supercharge in OFF, LOW, MID, HIGH. So if you dont want to use the supercharger, you can just turn it off. Unlike the Greddy one, They are always on. __________________ Maxwell Arancon Pass Racing Inc 148 S.8th Ave, Unit F Industry, CA 91746 626-961-6284 626-369-4418

08-22-2006, 08:55 PM	#113
SimmZ Drives: 2k3 Cavalier & 2k2 Echo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Quebec Posts: 260	I must admit I don't read all reply to that threat. Just by reading the initial question, I think it doesn't make sens. "Yaris" and "performance" in the same phrase doesn't make sense. "Yaris" and "cheap car", or "fuel economic", or "reliable cheap car" is more credible. I don't buy an Echo for performance, I buy it because it was cheap and the fuel economy is awesome. It was very reliable too. __________________ 2003 Chevy Cavalier Ecotec - His car! 2002 Toyota Echo Sedan - Her car... FOR SALE!

09-26-2006, 07:59 PM	#117
ItsMyDaily The LittleBastard View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 297	probably be cheaper to just swap in the 2zz, or even maybe a k20 motor to get good power. It is very doable, and you'll be making more power then the car could ever make NA, or with a turbo by just adding a stock motor swap. The recent super street had a honda fit on the cover with a k20 making around 240whp!!! __________________ Yaris Mods: 20% Tints Ground wires 2007 Toyota Yaris Liftback - Current 2004 Honda S2000 - Sold 1986 Toyota Corolla SR5 - Sold DIY: Groundwire Kit

09-26-2006, 11:22 PM	#118
sam07yaris Drives: 07 yaris sedan (silver) STICK Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tiverton, RI Posts: 244	K20 swap with exact engine mounts to a 2z yaris engine? Are pigs flying or what?lol __________________

09-27-2006, 03:33 PM	#125
soros151 Another question... :D Drives: Scion tC 06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 70	I really would enjoy a more toyota way, since the car u are using is a toyota. Cause if you are going with the engine of another brand greater problems will arise as plugs and electronic signals from other components. We are talking here, I think of a DD Yaris with 2ZZ swap, which I think is more..."in the line". __________________ One tire nearer to my goal

08-22-2006, 10:27 AM	#110
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	While we are on the topic of N/A, what do you guys think are realistic numbers for a done up N/A Yaris? We're talking pistons, rods, cams, ITB's, everything. I always had more respect for people that tuned their cars without the use of FI. However, I don't think the 1NZFE is potent enough to put up any kind of numbers without FI. What do you all think?

08-22-2006, 05:59 PM	#111
heylookitsjames maintenance of momentum View User's Garage Drives: 2007 5spd 3dr Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Riverside CA Posts: 129	I think it really depends on how much money you want to put in it... look at the much more primitive 4AGE... look at how much power the Forumla Atlantic version makes... I'm sure the 1NZFE could be built to have similar numbers to that, but it'd be mostly useless on the street. I assume you could get near what the greddy charger gives and still have it be streetable.

08-22-2006, 07:16 PM	#112
riceboy Drives: icebox Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CAN Posts: 1,003	but why sink so much money into this car?? having a nice looking customized car w/ some pep is one thing.. but putting anything more than 10g's is getting kind of out there...

09-23-2006, 05:59 AM	#114
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	As far as I know the engine should be able to handle a good amount of power from a turbo. Here in Thailand there is another car called the Soluna Vios, basically a mini sedan, which also comes in a factory turbo version, but the engine is the same as the Yaris, and does 143HP. Here's abit of info: http://paultan.org/archives/2005/11/...ta-vios-turbo/ So in theory it may be possible to transplant that engine into a yaris :D

09-23-2006, 12:11 PM	#115
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Interesting...

09-27-2006, 01:02 PM	#121
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Eww, Toyota with Honda engine. Stay true to your manufacturer, kiddies.

09-27-2006, 03:17 PM	#123
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	If you're looking for severe performance out of a Yaris, you should have bought a Fit.

09-27-2006, 04:27 PM	#126
Violin View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,592	Has anyone read about the Mazdaspeed 3? Nearly 300 HP in a Yaris would be insane... no?

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