24mm sway in front and 23mm in the rear

[Russelt3hPirate]

Originally Posted by regal

I wouldn't want a havier sway bar up front, you are only going to increase the alreasy bad understeeer problems this car has

we're only talking 1mm larger front.

stock is at least 10mm larger than the non existent rear.

so, doing this setup wouldn't "increase" understeer over the stock setup.

it would increase understeer (in theory) over a Stock front/Aftermarket Rear sway Bar.

On some macPherson strut suspensions a larger front sway bar can increase front grip by maintaining more camber during compression.

Tamago and I have talked about this and he's convinced me that to really gain the benefits of a larger front sway bar you'd need a front LSD.

big sways, LSD, adjustable struts, nice stiff springs. could be a killer street worthy setup. :)

[mojoyaris]

I'm looking for a larger front sway bar. As it is I can get really nice rotation on the tight turns. I'm looking for a combo of front and rear sway bars without having to go to a higher front spring rate.

Anything you guys could recommend?

[ddongbap]

Make the toe kick outwards on the rear. That'll make it rotate like a champion.

[cali yaris]

I'm looking for a larger front sway bar.

http://shop.microimageonline.com/pro...&productId=126

[speed1]

Installed rear strut cause of big understeer. Little oversteer obtained.
Waiting for rear sway bar too. Big oversteer hoped.
Hate when open throttle outside turns and nose goes wide...
Oversteer rulez!!!!!!!!!

[cali yaris]

Neutral is best for me, I like to introduce oversteer with the throttle.

[speed1]

Hey how can u introduce throttle oversteer in a naturally understeering fwd?
Only way to oversteer fwd with throttle is to make chassis oversteering by stiffening front.
They can stiffen front suspensions or use rear sway bar, infact strengthening rear they stiffen front.
Even better to stiffen front suspensions and to strengthen rear same time.
Then they have understeer entering corners.
It's the short sheet.
They have to choose what they want.
They have to know what they need.
They have to know what they can do.

[ilikerice]

You need to autocross every now and then to learn your car.

Throttle oversteer is easily done with FWD cars. Just gotta shift the weigh and either play with the throttle or if you are good at left foot breaking, you can tap the brakes while in a turn and get that rear end to push on out. Use with caution if you don't know how to control your car =)

[speed1]

Ye ye they stiffen rear and stengthen front they dont do any if they dont hard brake they hard steer they hard throttle.
Fwd cant go power oversteering.
They steer and throttle they stand they understeer.
Handbrake!

[ilikerice]

hand brake takes too long... even so, the yaris handbrake is horrible because they are drum brakes. Your RS may be better. Even then, if you don't modify your handbrake where it doesn't lock, you run the risk of pulling the handbrake while in a turn and when you try to move too fast you accidentally keep your handbrake up. Then you lose time because you gotta set everything back. I used to do that as a novice when autocrossing my crx. Once in a blue moon I would make that mistake, and it would cost me. Til I learned throttle control.

Actually, you wanna stiffen the rear with a sway bar or stiffin up your rear shocks, and let the front loose. Some people will take the front sway bar off. I will be downgrading my front sway bar if i can find a yaris in the junk yard with the correct one I need. I tried removing the front sway bar but it wasn't working out for me. Not my style of driving.

[speed1]

Welldone.