THE BEST AUDIO SPEAKER

[phenoyz77]

can anybody give their opinion on the "BEST CAR" audio/amp/wire/speakers etc..(but affordable) products out in the market today....planning to upgrade my sound system..need some opiinion
thx...Happy New Year


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[The Architect]

budget?

[goku87]

As for wires/installation stuff:

http://www.knukonceptz.com/

Cheap and quality, go figure.

[The Architect]

Originally Posted by goku87

As for wires/installation stuff:

http://www.knukonceptz.com/

Cheap and quality, go figure.

+7

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by phenoyz77

can anybody give their opinion on the "BEST CAR" audio/amp/wire/speakers etc..
products out in the market today....planning to upgrade my sound system..need some opiinion
thx...Happy New Year

The best can easily set you back 20k, 50k, 70K or 100k $$$ easily.

[The Architect]

opinions can get preeeetty expensive lol

[sqcomp]

If this was ever a loaded question!

Everything you're going to get is purely subjective. Ford is better than Chevy type opinion.

As was mentioned before, what is your budget?

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by The Architect

opinions can get preeeetty expensive lol

yep, and change from person to person a lot too.

I personally think that when it comes to power cable... that the best stuff you can get isn't the fancy car audio cable... but rather the cheaper welding cable that you can find at any welding supply store.

some people like the fancy wire because it has a million and three strands, but really all that does is make it more flexible... My take, on it is that as long as you have thousands of strands three isn't a DC electric difference... also, cable that is the thickness of your thumb is not going to be very flexible no matter what the strand count... no way around it. Welding cable comes with one with more layer of protection in the form of a paper jacket, and it is UL certified, can withstand oil, gas, and extreme temperatures which not all fancy car audio cable can.

with that said... most people would disagree with me.

recently there seems to be a Knu-boner going on round here.

[goku87]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

some people like the fancy wire because it has a million and three strands, but really all that does is make it more flexible... My take, on it is that as long as you have thousands of strands three isn't a DC electric difference... also, cable that is the thickness of your thumb is not going to be very flexible no matter what the strand count... no way around it.

higher strand # helps reduce eddy currents, as minimal as they may be.

Originally Posted by talnlnky

recently there seems to be a Knu-boner going on round here.

It's sexy and cheap lol.

[The Architect]

Originally Posted by goku87

higher strand # helps reduce eddy currents, as minimal as they may be.



It's sexy and cheap lol.

and gets the job done...cant really go leaving that one out. just bc somethings sexy and cheap doesn't mean its safe....cough.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by goku87

higher strand # helps reduce eddy currents, as minimal as they may be.



It's sexy and cheap lol.

not sure how eddy currents are involved as that is talking about magnetic fields... maybe you are thinking about the "skin effect".

Skin effect is straight up propaganda... at the amperage levels you are talking about, the entire conductor is saturated regardless of strand count.

Would love to see the results of resistance test on 15ft of 1/0awg car audio cable vs that of 1/0awg welding cable... It'd take some might expensive equipment to measure any difference from the two electrically... and who knows, the welding cable might just win. Like I said... welding cable is UL certified, it actually has to meet standards.


Cheap? Car audio wire is usually 50% to 100% more than welding cable of the same awg. The real reason you buy it is cause it's sexy.

[The Architect]

I think he mean't cheap in the car audio world compared to monster, shok, kicker, RF etc.

Welding wire is damn cheap if you go to the right place...hell even if you dont.

[phenoyz77]

I am looking for an AFFORDABLE --- DESCENT SOUNDING car speaker / amplifier
I'm in a budget, nothing over $1,000,
I used to read CAR AUDIO & ELECTRONICS magazine, but i think its no longer being publish...

(Off-topic= any site suggestion to DL mp3)


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[The Architect]

well for the yaris a grand is a lot to work with...maybe.

Do you want just a subwoofer, box, amplifier & wire kit or do you also want a new CD player and door speakers?

[phenoyz77]

well for the yaris a grand is a lot to work with...maybe.

Do you want just a subwoofer, box, amplifier & wire kit or do you also want a new CD player and door speakers?



i want a sub/ amp/ and descent component speaker
i'm using my mp3 for audio/video...alas the upgrade
(FRY"S is a little expensive dunno why...)

[The Architect]

do you mind buying online.

[severous01]

polk audio for speakers.

kenwood head units (extreme reliability, decent looks, plenty of power, and awesome options for the price)

pioneer or kenwood amps (again with the power/price issue.) higher quality amps only for higher end only. you dont need a class a amp for subs...and a class d amp for highs would suck bad. memphis class d amps are good for subs, and they're really tiny.

subs...this is left to question...a lot of people think that hi power handling is best, or poly material is best...or the most expensive is the best...whatever. i know people who have matched the sound records with a perfectly built box, a $30 amp, and buy one get one $20 subs. 4 amps, 8 subs, and a box matched perfectly to the subs.

[goku87]

Originally Posted by talnlnky

not sure how eddy currents are involved as that is talking about magnetic fields... maybe you are thinking about the "skin effect".

Skin effect is straight up propaganda... at the amperage levels you are talking about, the entire conductor is saturated regardless of strand count.

The separate conductors act similar the laminated cores of transformers to help prevent eddy currents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer#Cores

As for skin effect, it is a very real thing, I promise. We use air/foam core cables at work because it helps eliminate it. The skin effect only starts happening at much higher frequencies than audio, so unless someone is using power cable to transmit RF, skin effect isn't going to be happening on the power cable.