ABS and "!" lights are ON again! - Page 5 - Toyota Yaris Forums

jambo101 · 01-11-2009, 04:29 AM

I was only talking about the controllability of stopping on ice,for all other applications ABS works fine..

Maddman · 01-12-2009, 11:10 AM

Both the parking brake and the ABS light came on this weekend. Took it to the dealer today. They just called and told me that it's the driver rear speed sensor that has malfunctioned. The part is on back order so I have to drive around with no ABS until they get the part.

Bobby B · 01-17-2009, 07:06 PM

My wife's ABS and ! light came on and she the called the dealer on the day of warranty expiry...
ABS sensor - surprise!
I am hoping Toyota will cover it under warranty, less than 20k km and it WAS undercoated.
This definitely seems to be an issue here...

devinlamothe · 01-17-2009, 09:25 PM

Here's a funny story. My "!" and ABS lights disappeared, but this should have been stored as a trouble code in my cars computer.

I brought my car in for a maintenance the other day, I asked if they check trouble codes they said yes - well after I got my car back they said there were no codes showing? WTF. I never told them these lights went on until after the service. When I told the guy he looked surprised.

So I'm not sure what is going on here. What I do know is it has been a few weeks since this happened, and I've also been on the highway (about 800km trip) since this happened and the lights haven't shown up again.

Hopefully I got lucky because there is no way I am paying for this obvious defect.

Maddman · 01-19-2009, 02:15 PM

Mine went turned off 2 days ago. Still waiting for the part(s) to come in. I think that it happens when it's really cold out. We've had a huge cold snap last week and now it's not as cold the sensor is working again. I'm still going to get it fixed though

salmonz · 01-20-2009, 12:22 PM

So this morning my ABS and ! light went off too.

Brought the car to the dealership almost immediately. They scanned the car and the right rear ABS sensor is corroded and has to be replaced.

My car is a 2007 Toyota Yaris, 57000km. It's been really cold and slushy lately.

I asked the dealership to check the left one and they said they have to charge me $59. I gave them $1it, saying I won't wait for a computer to tell me something needs to be replaced when the tech can just look at it. My warranty is almost done and I'm not going to be on the hook for something that is defective from the beginning. They agreed to check the left one free of charge. They came back and the tech said it looked fine. They also said 1 out of 31 they've seen lately is on the left. I told them fine, just replace the right one. When the left one goes, I'll tell them about today and hold them to it that it should have been covered under warranty. I'm not paying $500 for something that should have been dealt with and fixed by Toyota.

They can't repair it today as 31 right rear sensors are on backorder. "31"!!!
There's definitely a problem with the Toyota Yaris's out there. There should be a recall for both left and right rear sensors.

Bobby B · 01-24-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by salmonz

So this morning my ABS and ! light went off too.

Brought the car to the dealership almost immediately. They scanned the car and the right rear ABS sensor is corroded and has to be replaced.

My car is a 2007 Toyota Yaris, 57000km. It's been really cold and slushy lately.

I asked the dealership to check the left one and they said they have to charge me $59. I gave them $1it, saying I won't wait for a computer to tell me something needs to be replaced when the tech can just look at it. My warranty is almost done and I'm not going to be on the hook for something that is defective from the beginning. They agreed to check the left one free of charge. They came back and the tech said it looked fine. They also said 1 out of 31 they've seen lately is on the left. I told them fine, just replace the right one. When the left one goes, I'll tell them about today and hold them to it that it should have been covered under warranty. I'm not paying $500 for something that should have been dealt with and fixed by Toyota.

They can't repair it today as 31 right rear sensors are on backorder. "31"!!!
There's definitely a problem with the Toyota Yaris's out there. There should be a recall for both left and right rear sensors.

Interesting...
My dealer said it's "ALWAYS" the Left rear...
My wife's lights went on again and off again this week...

Former_Neon · 01-25-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobby B

Interesting...
My dealer said it's "ALWAYS" the Left rear...
My wife's lights went on again and off again this week...

Mine is the right rear also. It'll take 2 to 3 weeks for them to get the part in. What a crock! Can anyone explain why it would take a dealership so long to get a part in for a car they still sell? It's not like they have to get a factory to start manufacturing it.

Bobby B · 01-25-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Former_Neon

Mine is the right rear also. It'll take 2 to 3 weeks for them to get the part in. What a crock! Can anyone explain why it would take a dealership so long to get a part in for a car they still sell? It's not like they have to get a factory to start manufacturing it.

I got an ETA of middle of February.
I suspect the reason for the delay is they have an issue and the parts are now back ordered to Japan, hopefully with a fix.
I hear Toyota is instructing the dealers to try and clean them.

Former_Neon · 01-22-2009, 11:22 PM

I started up my Yaris on Tuesday and the ABS and (!) lights were on. I took it to useless Whitby Toyota and, as usual, was treated with disdain. They told me they have to order the speed sensor part and they "don't know" when it'll be in.
To hell with them, I'm taking my business to a different Toyota.

By the way...is this the Toyota quality I've heard so much about? Just over a year of ownership and now this.

Dave · 01-20-2009, 07:02 PM

This is nuts. Is there a Canadian equivalent to the NHTSA where these issues can be formally registered? Can we write to the Office of Consumer Affairs?

onizuka · 01-20-2009, 07:40 PM

The reason we won't get a recall is that the volume in Canada is so slim for Toyota to consider a recall. Also it only happens when and where it's cold, that's why you only hear it from us, the canadians. You don't see any americans from So-Cal complaining about that problem.

Dave · 01-20-2009, 10:29 PM

Maybe one of the affected posters could write in to the Toronto Star's Wheels section for advice on how to get Toyota moving on this issue.

This is clearly not an isolated incident, and seems to be popping up as people's warranties are about to expire. Attention from a newspaper may add a little more publicity to the issue, and motivate Toyota to come up with a solution for all Yaris owners. At the very least, they (Wheels columnists) may give some advice on who to talk to without getting a boilerplate email response or a brush-off at a dealership.

Website is www.wheels.ca. Check the "Columns & Advice" section for previous Q&A's, and the email address for writing in. I'm pretty sure it's just wheels (a t) thestar.ca. Applicable column is probably "Your Beef".

I'd do it myself, but my car's been fine so far *fingers crossed*.

devinlamothe · 01-21-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Maybe one of the affected posters could write in to the Toronto Star's Wheels section for advice on how to get Toyota moving on this issue.

This is clearly not an isolated incident, and seems to be popping up as people's warranties are about to expire. Attention from a newspaper may add a little more publicity to the issue, and motivate Toyota to come up with a solution for all Yaris owners. At the very least, they (Wheels columnists) may give some advice on who to talk to without getting a boilerplate email response or a brush-off at a dealership.

Website is www.wheels.ca. Check the "Columns & Advice" section for previous Q&A's, and the email address for writing in. I'm pretty sure it's just wheels (a t) thestar.ca. Applicable column is probably "Your Beef".

I'd do it myself, but my car's been fine so far *fingers crossed*.

I just sent something in and linked this thread as an example. Unfortunately for me, my "!" and ABS lights went on again after it got warmer out, and the roads were rather slushy. It went away again when it got colder (doesn't make sense).

This is absolutely ridiculous on Toyota's part. My confidence in them is slowly starting to diminish.

EDMR2 · 01-22-2009, 12:24 AM

If you don't want to fix it , can the code be erase so both of the lights comes off

Pars · 01-24-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EDMR2

If you don't want to fix it , can the code be erase so both of the lights comes off

Nope. I asked the mechanic the same question, he said that he could turn off the abs light, but once I re-start the car, it'll do a start-up check and the lights would come back on.

I suppose opening up the dash and disconnecting the bulb would work. If anyone got pic on opening up the dash?

Jem_hadar · 02-08-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by EDMR2

If you don't want to fix it , can the code be erase so both of the lights comes off

I was told this is impossible by my tech. That the they simply cant permanently disable the warning lights while this malfunction is still an issue. That they will show up again every time u start the car.

voodoo22 · 01-23-2009, 07:54 AM

My father works for Toyota in the west and said they are not seeing these issues at his dealership. I am wondering if whether the salt they use in Ontario is causing this problem on an obviously defective setup?

01-17-2009, 07:06 PM	#3
Bobby B Car crazy Drives: 06 Yaris RS 06 CR-V Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: London, ON Posts: 5	Another one B!tes the Sensor My wife's ABS and ! light came on and she the called the dealer on the day of warranty expiry... ABS sensor - surprise! I am hoping Toyota will cover it under warranty, less than 20k km and it WAS undercoated. This definitely seems to be an issue here...

01-20-2009, 12:22 PM	#6
salmonz Drives: 07 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milton, ON, Canada Posts: 66	2007 Toyota Yaris So this morning my ABS and ! light went off too. Brought the car to the dealership almost immediately. They scanned the car and the right rear ABS sensor is corroded and has to be replaced. My car is a 2007 Toyota Yaris, 57000km. It's been really cold and slushy lately. I asked the dealership to check the left one and they said they have to charge me $59. I gave them $1it, saying I won't wait for a computer to tell me something needs to be replaced when the tech can just look at it. My warranty is almost done and I'm not going to be on the hook for something that is defective from the beginning. They agreed to check the left one free of charge. They came back and the tech said it looked fine. They also said 1 out of 31 they've seen lately is on the left. I told them fine, just replace the right one. When the left one goes, I'll tell them about today and hold them to it that it should have been covered under warranty. I'm not paying $500 for something that should have been dealt with and fixed by Toyota. They can't repair it today as 31 right rear sensors are on backorder. "31"!!! There's definitely a problem with the Toyota Yaris's out there. There should be a recall for both left and right rear sensors.

01-11-2009, 04:29 AM	#1
jambo101 Drives: yaris 08 sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Canada Posts: 1,286	I was only talking about the controllability of stopping on ice,for all other applications ABS works fine..

01-12-2009, 11:10 AM	#2
Maddman Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan (Aero) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada Posts: 15	Both the parking brake and the ABS light came on this weekend. Took it to the dealer today. They just called and told me that it's the driver rear speed sensor that has malfunctioned. The part is on back order so I have to drive around with no ABS until they get the part.

01-17-2009, 09:25 PM	#4
devinlamothe Drives: '07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sudbury, Canada Posts: 520	Here's a funny story. My "!" and ABS lights disappeared, but this should have been stored as a trouble code in my cars computer. I brought my car in for a maintenance the other day, I asked if they check trouble codes they said yes - well after I got my car back they said there were no codes showing? WTF. I never told them these lights went on until after the service. When I told the guy he looked surprised. So I'm not sure what is going on here. What I do know is it has been a few weeks since this happened, and I've also been on the highway (about 800km trip) since this happened and the lights haven't shown up again. Hopefully I got lucky because there is no way I am paying for this obvious defect.

01-19-2009, 02:15 PM	#5
Maddman Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan (Aero) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cambridge, ON, Canada Posts: 15	Mine went turned off 2 days ago. Still waiting for the part(s) to come in. I think that it happens when it's really cold out. We've had a huge cold snap last week and now it's not as cold the sensor is working again. I'm still going to get it fixed though

01-22-2009, 11:22 PM	#10
Former_Neon Drives: 1997 Yaris LE Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 48	I started up my Yaris on Tuesday and the ABS and (!) lights were on. I took it to useless Whitby Toyota and, as usual, was treated with disdain. They told me they have to order the speed sensor part and they "don't know" when it'll be in. To hell with them, I'm taking my business to a different Toyota. By the way...is this the Toyota quality I've heard so much about? Just over a year of ownership and now this.

01-20-2009, 07:02 PM	#11
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	This is nuts. Is there a Canadian equivalent to the NHTSA where these issues can be formally registered? Can we write to the Office of Consumer Affairs?

01-20-2009, 07:40 PM	#12
onizuka Drives: Yaris Blk 5 Drs RS Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 45	The reason we won't get a recall is that the volume in Canada is so slim for Toyota to consider a recall. Also it only happens when and where it's cold, that's why you only hear it from us, the canadians. You don't see any americans from So-Cal complaining about that problem.

01-20-2009, 10:29 PM	#13
Dave Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 100	Maybe one of the affected posters could write in to the Toronto Star's Wheels section for advice on how to get Toyota moving on this issue. This is clearly not an isolated incident, and seems to be popping up as people's warranties are about to expire. Attention from a newspaper may add a little more publicity to the issue, and motivate Toyota to come up with a solution for all Yaris owners. At the very least, they (Wheels columnists) may give some advice on who to talk to without getting a boilerplate email response or a brush-off at a dealership. Website is www.wheels.ca. Check the "Columns & Advice" section for previous Q&A's, and the email address for writing in. I'm pretty sure it's just wheels (a t) thestar.ca. Applicable column is probably "Your Beef". I'd do it myself, but my car's been fine so far fingers crossed.

01-22-2009, 12:24 AM	#15
EDMR2 Drives: 2007 yaris S Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 9	If you don't want to fix it , can the code be erase so both of the lights comes off

01-23-2009, 07:54 AM	#18
voodoo22 Drives: Yaris Sedan (auto) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 545	My father works for Toyota in the west and said they are not seeing these issues at his dealership. I am wondering if whether the salt they use in Ontario is causing this problem on an obviously defective setup?