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soloecho2 · 10-03-2010, 06:16 PM

Is there an easy way to cure the back end from coming around. I am not sure if it's as simple as carreing to much speed into the corner or if it me lifting once the car starts to push. Any pointers would be great.
Thanks again

cali yaris · 10-03-2010, 07:01 PM

You have oversteer?
What is your suspension set up?

Late braking into the corner, or even lifting after starting your turn can cause that. Trying doing ALL of your braking before you turn the wheel, and see how that feels.

soloecho2 · 10-03-2010, 07:20 PM

Eibach pro kit strut tower brace rear sway bar. 195/50/15 tires. It was on an oval got about a third of the way through the corner before the back end let go.

Bluevitz-rs · 10-03-2010, 08:55 PM

Are you lifting off the gas when you feel the back end coming around?

soloecho2 · 10-03-2010, 10:16 PM

Not sure that's the problem. The whole chicken or the egg thing. I think it starts to go then I lift.

cali yaris · 10-04-2010, 01:04 AM

What tires, exactly? And what tire pressure were you running when this happened?

Bluevitz-rs · 10-04-2010, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soloecho2

Not sure that's the problem. The whole chicken or the egg thing. I think it starts to go then I lift.

That's the majority of the problem. You have look where you want to go and mash the gas. On a FWD is essentially impossible to spin while under power. As long the front wheels are in the direction you want to go, the front end will keep pulling you in that direction.

I've had the back end pushed out nearly 90 degrees while racing and still recovered. I was at full lock in the direction I needed to go and had my foot to the floor.

markitect · 10-04-2010, 08:42 AM

I'd play with tire pressure, you can do more then you'd think.

soloecho2 · 10-04-2010, 10:12 AM

Falken 912s 38 in the front 40 in the rear.

sickpuppy1 · 10-04-2010, 10:45 AM

If your loosing it a third of the way through the corner. it sounds like you went into it too hot. I dont race, just a watcher, but I'd always heard you slow just as you approach the corner, and back into the gas the second half of it, past the apex.

And I could be full of it too!

Jason@SportsCar · 10-04-2010, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soloecho2

Not sure that's the problem. The whole chicken or the egg thing. I think it starts to go then I lift.

FWD - when all else fails, floor it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPCGn...eature=related

why? · 10-04-2010, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

FWD - when all else fails, floor it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPCGn...eature=related

that clip should be required watching for everyone who drives a fwd car.

Bluevitz-rs · 10-04-2010, 08:20 PM

That was basically what I experienced, but on ice LOL.

jcemitte · 10-04-2010, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason@SportsCar

FWD - when all else fails, floor it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPCGn...eature=related

well that concludes this thread from the champ himself

when in doubt, power through out.

soloecho2 · 10-04-2010, 10:34 PM

Wow that's what I thought but the concrete wall were a little intimidating.

10-03-2010, 06:16 PM	#1
soloecho2 Drives: 2004 Echo HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orono, Ontario Posts: 186	Chicken lift Is there an easy way to cure the back end from coming around. I am not sure if it's as simple as carreing to much speed into the corner or if it me lifting once the car starts to push. Any pointers would be great. Thanks again

10-03-2010, 07:01 PM	#2
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	You have oversteer? What is your suspension set up? Late braking into the corner, or even lifting after starting your turn can cause that. Trying doing ALL of your braking before you turn the wheel, and see how that feels. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

10-04-2010, 01:04 AM	#6
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	What tires, exactly? And what tire pressure were you running when this happened? __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

10-04-2010, 10:45 AM	#10
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	If your loosing it a third of the way through the corner. it sounds like you went into it too hot. I dont race, just a watcher, but I'd always heard you slow just as you approach the corner, and back into the gas the second half of it, past the apex. And I could be full of it too! __________________

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10-03-2010, 07:20 PM	#3
soloecho2 Drives: 2004 Echo HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orono, Ontario Posts: 186	Eibach pro kit strut tower brace rear sway bar. 195/50/15 tires. It was on an oval got about a third of the way through the corner before the back end let go.

10-03-2010, 08:55 PM	#4
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Are you lifting off the gas when you feel the back end coming around?

10-03-2010, 10:16 PM	#5
soloecho2 Drives: 2004 Echo HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orono, Ontario Posts: 186	Not sure that's the problem. The whole chicken or the egg thing. I think it starts to go then I lift.

10-04-2010, 08:42 AM	#8
markitect Drives: Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 199	I'd play with tire pressure, you can do more then you'd think.

10-04-2010, 10:12 AM	#9
soloecho2 Drives: 2004 Echo HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orono, Ontario Posts: 186	Falken 912s 38 in the front 40 in the rear.

10-04-2010, 08:20 PM	#13
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	That was basically what I experienced, but on ice LOL.

10-04-2010, 10:34 PM	#15
soloecho2 Drives: 2004 Echo HB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Orono, Ontario Posts: 186	Wow that's what I thought but the concrete wall were a little intimidating.