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Old 05-03-2013, 10:54 AM   #1
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April Yaris Sales: Down

New Yaris sales were down 53.6% compared to 2012. Year to date sales are down 34.9%.

It could be worse: The Scion iQ is down 61.7% vs. last year and 60% year to date.

Full subcompact car sales here:

http://www.subcompactculture.com/201...act-sales.html

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Old 05-03-2013, 11:11 AM   #2
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Seems like larger vehicles are the trend . Especially Chrysler / Jeep products .
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:27 AM   #3
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I still don't understand the US fascination with huge vehicles.

One of the main reasons I'm willing to spend so much money on my Hardbody pickup is that noone makes a small truck anymore.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:15 PM   #4
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I still don't understand the US fascination with huge vehicles.

One of the main reasons I'm willing to spend so much money on my Hardbody pickup is that noone makes a small truck anymore.
I'm not one to pay attention to people's signatures on forums, so I'm glad that you mentioned your small truck! Looks like you've been putting quite a lot of work into it... I know what website I'll be looking at when i get home tonight!
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:31 PM   #5
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Seems like larger vehicles are the trend . Especially Chrysler / Jeep products .
It leaves me SMH.....and wondering what percentage of those buyers are buying AND ALSO being smart with their money (making sure their have adequate resources for their 'later years').
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:23 PM   #6
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it really depends what you are doing with your vehicle. If you have a family and like to take trips, odds are something as small as a Yaris is simply a no go right from the start.

Plus a 4 cylinder Camry gets pretty good gas mileage. And all those hybrids. Even an Avalon hybrid now. You give 80% Americans 35 mpg and they will be happy.

And then of course there are very few luxury options on the Yaris, and a lot of Americans simply won't buy a car without leather/moon roof/ etc.

Oh, and credit. You can put that shiny new $46k Highlander Hybrid on a loan up to 7 years, or more.
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Old 05-03-2013, 11:48 PM   #7
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Smaller cars make more sense . A lower monthly payment and less money in the tank . Money that can be used to help the economy , use towards your payment , insurance , house payment , taxes , or utilities . The '11 FIT is under $190 a month with .9 % rate . More money towards the principal . So when or if traded is less cash lost due to depreciation . The gas mileage of the FIT doesn't hurt too , http://www.fuelly.com/driver/cinder/fit . The '08 sedan is paid for .
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:06 AM   #8
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it really depends what you are doing with your vehicle. If you have a family and like to take trips, odds are something as small as a Yaris is simply a no go right from the start.

Plus a 4 cylinder Camry gets pretty good gas mileage. And all those hybrids. Even an Avalon hybrid now. You give 80% Americans 35 mpg and they will be happy.

And then of course there are very few luxury options on the Yaris, and a lot of Americans simply won't buy a car without leather/moon roof/ etc.

Oh, and credit. You can put that shiny new $46k Highlander Hybrid on a loan up to 7 years, or more.
I agree with what you are saying and I realize you are trying to point out array of inputs that might influence a buying decision. It just never ceases to amaze me how many people make vehicle decisions that don't make either personal financial sense or financial sense re business use and write offs (if business is what it will be used for). I also think that a bit restraint is good for the soul even if you don't have to concern yourself with cost.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:20 AM   #9
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Smaller cars make more sense . A lower monthly payment and less money in the tank . Money that can be used to help the economy , use towards your payment , insurance , house payment , taxes , or utilities . The '11 FIT is under $190 a month with .9 % rate . More money towards the principal . So when or if traded is less cash lost due to depreciation . The gas mileage of the FIT doesn't hurt too , http://www.fuelly.com/driver/cinder/fit . The '08 sedan is paid for .
I think a certain percentage of the people who might want an Avalon Hybrid or a Camry Hybrid and would be happy with that 35 MPG (as Why? mentioned) and might be able to stretch and make the payments and avoid a repo on one of those cars should instead be looking at the situation the way you did with your vehicle purchases. They should get a car that is an appropriate size for their needs, but change one or more of the variables so that they incur a lower overall cost of ownership (especially per mile).
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:13 AM   #10
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Old 05-04-2013, 01:50 PM   #11
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Good. Poor sales mean lower prices and rebates.
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:37 PM   #12
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Good. Poor sales mean lower prices and rebates.
I agree, but we don't want sales to get so bad that Toyota thinks about prematurely stopping export of the 3rd Gen Yaris to the U.S. .
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:23 PM   #13
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I agree, but we don't want sales to get so bad that Toyota thinks about prematurely stopping export of the 3rd Gen Yaris to the U.S. .
they can't. They need it in their lineup to help offset all those Land Cruisers and Lexus' they sell.

And of course, if they really do lower the price when they switch production to France, that will help sales as well.
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they can't. They need it in their lineup to help offset all those Land Cruisers and Lexus' they sell.

And of course, if they really do lower the price when they switch production to France, that will help sales as well.
Yeah, I forgot about that. With CAFE, your first sentence above provides enough justification to continue to import the Yaris.
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Old 05-05-2013, 07:08 AM   #15
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Hmm in our parking lot at work the four cylinder sedans are rapdily overtaking the monster pickups and SUVs. I think I heard someplace the Ford Focus is now the largest selling car here in the US.

Why the YAris should be doing so poorly is a mystery to me. Although its almost impossible to find very many for sale here in South Jersey.

Are people in this country finally coming to their senses and buying small cars. Enquiring minds want to know.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:42 AM   #16
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Maybe the general public has the same opinion of the new yaris interior....I don't think I could stand to look at it every day! I'll keep my current car.
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Old 05-05-2013, 10:25 AM   #17
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The previous gen Yaris is everywhere around here, but the third gen, not so much. I think the competition just has more to offer. Ford Fiesta, Hyundai Accent are just much nicer IMO.

Let's not forget the compact segment which is offering comparable or better fuel economy with a larger, more comfortable ride. The Honda Civic springs to mind here. Even the Corolla is nice. When my Mother in Law's Yaris was totalled recently it was a no brainer to go to the Corolla for only $1200 more since the sedan isn't offered anymore.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Honda comes up with with the next Fit too.
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