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Old 07-31-2013, 09:14 AM   #109
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Actually, smaller cars need more volume to make money since there is not as much profit built into the price of the car. The car still requires the same amount of tooling to manufacture the car (same number of unique stamping dies required to stamp out panels). Flexible weld cells can help spread assembly equipment costs to other vehicles, but nobody is making any money on small cars at these volumes.
true, subcompacts make much less profit for the automakers, but they make some money. for some its about building the brand and meeting certain standards. as attitudes shift, most of the automakers are well prepared to take on the ever increasing demand for these smaller cars.

Toyota is one of the few that seems to have lost interest in this segment.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:34 PM   #110
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true, subcompacts make much less profit for the automakers, but they make some money. for some its about building the brand and meeting certain standards. as attitudes shift, most of the automakers are well prepared to take on the ever increasing demand for these smaller cars.

Toyota is one of the few that seems to have lost interest in this segment.
They only make SOME money if the factory is running efficiently. If the factory (tooling and labor) was running at 100%, they can make some money. If the tooling is only being utilized 20% or so, they aren't making money.

FYI... I have worked in the auto industry for 20 years.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:50 PM   #111
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4,000-5,000 per month sales...SUCKS
No, 747 units a month SUCKS - 4,000-5,000 units is great, especially nowadays when everyone is BROKE & the economy is garbage.
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Old 07-31-2013, 01:35 PM   #112
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The Fit isn't a hatchback. It's a mini-minivan.
Exactly! I looked at the Fit, it was exactly a mini-minivan & I could not stand it.

I REALLY wanted to see a Scion iQ in person when I went to the Toyota/Scion dealer where I ended up buying.
They had ONE iQ that was there for 200 & something days, they finally sold it. I also wanted to see a Yaris there, they had ONE 5 door in Black Sand Pearl - I was pretty set on getting a Toyota by this point.

I am glad the iQ was gone, was looking at the cute factor, but as I thought about it was not keen on NO spare (that could be taken care of, tho) The CVT Transmission seemed iffy, but I am easy on cars...hmmmm

I was dead-set on fuel economy & a reliable point A to point B car. We walked over to the Yaris and the salesguy got the key. Looked it over for quite awhile, saw how easy it was to change the oil & tranny fluid, filters, etc. Really loved the simple interior and especially the dash - the seats were/are great. Test drove it a bit, yeah, this will work.
I realized this is a decent sized small car, sheesh, I wonder how small the iQ would have looked compared to this? I was hooked, lets get a red 2 door automatic basic 'L' model, perfect!

He got a 3 door coupe in absolute red from another dealer in NC, and we picked up the car in 2 days.

The more I drove it the more I fell in mad love with this little car. I had read about the proven engine/transmission combo on this car, it was a Toyota, it will be awesome.
I joined the forum here the day we decided to get it, my birthday April 9 and the more I read here, the more I knew it was the right decision

We looked at a Fiesta, read about all these problems it had - big turn-off
I love the looks of the new Fiat 500, but it's a FIAT. Went to the Fiat 500 forums on the web & sure enough - problem after problem after problem!
Electrical issues, paint issues - no way, not getting sucked into this car with the fun to drive cute factor that will hit me.
I am sure a lot of folks have had good luck with their 500s, that is great, not going to take that chance here.

VERY glad we got this Made in Japan Toyota Yaris. I am not concerned whatsoever aboth the decision - it will last forever. The way it runsthe way the controls workthe way it shiftsthe way it engine brakesthe way the wiper worksthe way the stereo jams

Seriously thinking about getting a 2nd 2013 Coupe as a 'spare' before it's too late!
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:56 PM   #113
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I test drove way too many cars.
I was sick to death with them.
I thought I'd never find one I really liked.
One that I liked AND that was reliable that is.

Then got a Yaris as a rental while my Kia was in the shop.. A G A I N.

and I was hooked.
Seriously, I love this car.

Only other one I genuinely liked was the Scion xD.
Until I noticed it had no way to adjust the driver seat.
Yesterday, I saw a really short ladies head barely peeking over her dash board in an xD.
That's when I realized... I was really glad I got the Yaris instead.

Edit: I laughed really.. REALLY hard at that lady. More than I should of probably. XD <--- Now I understand.
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Old 08-01-2013, 07:28 PM   #114
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I like the simplicy of the Yaris - I got the 2013 YR model - so I don't have cruise control etc - or the GPS but I felt I don't really need those features anyway - I am still old school and carry a referdex in the boot or google addresses/directions.

I would have liked Alloy wheels though.

But overall I like the look of the dash as it is clean and uncluttered. And the fuel economy is amazing - that in itself is worth the switch from a bigger car to this for me.

It is a pretty spunky little car to own.
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:21 AM   #115
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Alloy wheels are nice until you dent one then have to pay $400 for a single new one!

I got a steel wheel for my sons ECHO for $35 brand new a few years ago and they can be had in junk yards for less than that.

They go round and round just like alloys amazing!
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Old 08-02-2013, 06:24 AM   #116
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I like the simplicy of the Yaris - I got the 2013 YR model - so I don't have cruise control etc -
Cruise control is built into the cars computer. All you need to do for cc is add the stalk. On my 2009 you can add cc for ten dollors for resistors and switches.

Do a search or perhaps someone will put you on to the information.

I am too old to know how to search.
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Old 08-02-2013, 07:33 AM   #117
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Alloy wheels are nice until you dent one then have to pay $400 for a single new one!
Screw factory alloys, better to buy aftermarkets anyway. You can buy a whole set of 4 for less than $400. Much better looking and unique.
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:06 AM   #118
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Alloy wheels are nice until you dent one then have to pay $400 for a single new one!

I got a steel wheel for my sons ECHO for $35 brand new a few years ago and they can be had in junk yards for less than that.

They go round and round just like alloys amazing!
Thank you - very good point and why I just went with the standard ones - at least I wont cry if it gets damaged.
I had Viper Mags on my Honda and they did look pretty awesome - but I brought the car 2nd hand with those on - I just think they look nice.
But you are right - when the car is moving - no-one can tell what is on the wheels
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Old 08-02-2013, 08:08 AM   #119
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Screw factory alloys, better to buy aftermarkets anyway. You can buy a whole set of 4 for less than $400. Much better looking and unique.

Yes, this was suggested to me by a staff member at Toyota - he said you can get way "cooler" alloys aftermarket from tyre specialists. I might look in to it one day.

As far as cruise control goes - well I am not going to add that, I never had it before so I can live without it.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:18 PM   #120
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July sales

July Yaris sales: 1,759.

Well, it's better than the Yaris's worst month (June) of 747. But, it's still poor and bottom of the pack.
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Old 01-27-2015, 01:13 AM   #121
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747 units in June. Remember when the Yaris used to sell 5-6K a month regularly? Of course that was with a sedan, but still.

Here are the major competitors for June.

Ford Fiesta ...........9363
Nissan Versa.........8705
Chevrolet Sonic.....7122
Hyundai Accent.....5237
Honda Fit.............5055
Kia Rio................4169

Yaris....................747

What's going on?
i could never accept the ugly front end and ugly center console area of the fiesta and now... ford has changed both of them. the front ends of the new fiestas look great. a huge improvement.
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