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Old 03-17-2011, 10:53 AM   #1
Drives: MR2 Spyd/Type R/Yaris/Civic Si
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ABS brakes / Would you buy a Yaris without them?

Here is the situation that I'm thinking over and over about.

I had a 2005 Echo Hatchback from Sept 2004 to April 2008..................

During that time I only ever drove it from April to October, so all it ever saw was dry pavement and rain. It had ABS, but I can honestly say I think it only ever cycled the ABS 5 or 6 times in the 4 years I owned it.

The Daily Driver I've been driving since then (that I traded the Echo in on .....................

...................has both ABS / EBD (electronic brakeforce distribution) / VSA (vehicle stability assist) combined with almost 12" front rotors and factory 17's with sticky michelins. In that car, the ABS basically never ever cycles in the summer or even much in the rain (or snow for that matter)

Now I'm looking at getting back into a Yaris.

I've found some remaining 2010 2dr hatchbacks that dealers are basically throwing at me (0% financing AND massive discounts on top)

99% of them are the level that doesn't have ABS (although some of them do have 6 airbags).

Most of them are weirdly optioned 2010 CE 2dr with LE package (4 speakers / mudflaps / rear wiper) and then a $285 option that includes the 6airbags.

The Yaris would only ever get driven between April and October (dry pavement and occassional rain) and I'd have aftermarket wheels at some point.

For what its worth, I've been driving for 22 years / I've autocrossed several cars / done track days / taken advanced driving courses from BMW and Mercedes and have a former racecar driver/builder as a father (all of which is a way of saying I'm not the average ham-fisted driver half asleep at the wheel while texting in one hand and drinking a coffee in the other)

I'm trying to get a handle on all aspects (resale value / safety when others are driving the car / the odd time that I'd get caught in a compromising situation etc....)

there are a few remaining 2dr hatchs with the LE convenience package but the dealers that have them aren't being as aggressive to sell them and they would cost about $2k more (they also have AC which I could care less about).

All your input would be appreciated.



p.s., anyone looking to buy a 2008 Acura CSX Type S - shoot me a PM
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