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Old 10-21-2008, 12:34 AM   #37
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I like Eneos. 5w-30. I'll be switching over all my cars from Redline soon.
Probably still use M1 in the yaris, but i'll try it out and see.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:48 AM   #38
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I would never do 5k with dino.
An entire fleet of Toyota engineers, quality testers, risk analysts and lawyers wholeheartedly disagree with you as their recommendation is 5k miles. Anything more often is a waste of money and resources.

Back on topic: I run Mobil1 5W-20 EP synthetic and a K&N Gold oil filter for the 15k mile drain interval.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:27 PM   #39
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An entire fleet of Toyota engineers, quality testers, risk analysts and lawyers wholeheartedly disagree with you as their recommendation is 5k miles. Anything more often is a waste of money and resources.
My brother showed me pictures of cars that have oil changed at like 5 to 7 thousand and the engines are covered with a black or tan like tar inside? This cant be good, right? Teh car has like vtec right?
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:31 PM   #40
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My brother showed me pictures of cars that have oil changed at like 5 to 7 thousand and the engines are covered with a black or tan like tar inside? This cant be good, right? Teh car has like vtec right?
That would be sludge. Bad I tell you, very bad!
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:47 PM   #41
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So I use aimsol for no slug? You buy this from a friend, Does it cost too much?
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:19 PM   #42
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An entire fleet of Toyota engineers, quality testers, risk analysts and lawyers wholeheartedly disagree with you as their recommendation is 5k miles. Anything more often is a waste of money and resources.

Back on topic: I run Mobil1 5W-20 EP synthetic and a K&N Gold oil filter for the 15k mile drain interval.
Agreed. Today's 5k OCI is yesterday's 3k OCI...oils have improved along with improved engine design.
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:29 PM   #43
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Any SM-rated 5w-30. Currently on Motomaster Formula 1 (blended by Shell for Canadian Tire IIRC) dino for rated five-to-six-month intervals. I don't clock enough mileage to change it out beforehand.
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:46 PM   #44
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Are there any national auto parts stores that sell oil like Amsoil or Royal Purple or do I have to order the stuff online? I am coming up on my first oil change and want to make the switch but haven't seen any of this good oil that you guys are using in any local stores.
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:54 PM   #45
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go here to find local supplier for AMSOIL , www.amsoil.com/dealerlocatorresults/ .
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:38 PM   #46
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amsoil 0-30 wouldnt really hurt my motor right? or should i switch it right away to 5-30. i have 500 miles on 0-30 and my car has 20k mi
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Old 10-21-2008, 04:41 PM   #47
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:58 PM   #48
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My brother says that like bay-4 motorsports has good oil for motorcycle and this should be better for car then even the S&M. I dont go to bike stores they bother me too much and I have to leave
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:10 AM   #49
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Why does the poll show only two choices?

Do this: Pick the "worse" and cheapest synthetic oil on the market that has the current API ratings (SM). Use that oil and your car will last no less long as if you had used AMSOIL or Mobil1 or any of the other brands.

People say this oil is great or that oil is great but how do they know? They like the purple color? They think paying a premium means longer lasting car? How many of these people actually send a used oil sample to a testing lab like BlackStone for thorough analysis? Yet the ones that don't have their used oil analyzed will push their brand of choice hard. Lots of hearsay, lots of parroting the claims of others.

Me? I use the cheapest on-sale full synthetic and don't have the dillusion that one is much better the the other. I've seen the UOA's (used oil analysis) at BobIsTheOilGuy dot com and I'm convinced that as long as (1) the oil has the latest ratings (2) is synthetic, (3) correct viscosity and (4) mated with a decent filter, your car will last 300,000+ miles regardless of brand.

Please guys lets not turn motor oil into a religion filled with passion and fervor ;-)
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:16 AM   #50
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in the T.S.B. by TOYOTA says 5w-20 only , not 0w-20 . Here's the T.S.B. number , TS-EG018-06 ( the last 2 digits are the year T.S.B. was / is released ) . Got the TOYOTA service department where the '08 YARIS sedan was purchased to e-mail the T.S.B. as confirmation and saved the T.S.B. ( copied from P.C. ) in case of warranty issues with the use of the 5w-20 , says 5w-30 on oil cap and in owners manual . Best to be safe than sorry .

If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:34 PM   #51
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If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.
The way I heard it explained from an expert was that the wider the viscosity the more polymers are needed and the harder it is for the molecules to stretch...something like that...under stress and heat the 5w-30 performs better.
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If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.
Not exactly correct engine lubricant may not get to designated operational temp and viscosity of the 0W will be much less than the 5W at say 75 celcius. I am Chemist!
Make Love not Bombs! I see TSB b4 it states NO 020!

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Old 10-23-2008, 01:58 PM   #53
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read the T.S.B. closely ...

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If Toyota says we can use 20 weight oil, then that means 0W-20 and 5W-20. At operational temperature both these oils will protect the same. The only difference is that in very cold temperatures, the 0W will pump a bit easier, but not a lot easier then the 5W.

Same for 5W-30 and 0W-30....an engine that runs on one can run on the other.
says not to . Only for CAMRY , etc.. If you want to risk it , then go for it .
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Not exactly correct engine lubricant may not get to designated operational temp and viscosity of the 0W will be much less than the 5W at say 75 celcius. I am Chemist!
Make Love not Bombs! I see TSB b4 it states NO 020!
If you're a chemist then you should know better....the 20 in 0W-20 and 5W-20 provide the same protection at full operating temperature (around 212 degrees F).

It is the first number, the 0 in 0W-20 that is thinner at cold temperatures then 5W.

And Gid yes you are correct, the Yaris engine is not TSB'd for 0w, but rather for 5W-20. However I do use 0w because the UOA reports I've seen from other Yaris owners show the same wear metals as those that used 5W-20.
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