quick shifter - Toyota Yaris Forums

KSIbucky · 10-31-2006, 11:54 PM

would this work for a yaris or am i better of just getting a yaris short shifterhttp://www.trdparts4u.com/PD-PTR04-5....aspx?MakeID=1

ChinoCharles · 11-01-2006, 01:45 AM

Looks a little different... excuse the blurry picture, camera phone.

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My buddy actually just hacked a center section out of my stock shifter with an air saw and welded the pieces back together at an angle. My short shifter cost me a 12 pack... haha.

eTiMaGo · 11-01-2006, 02:07 AM

That TRD one is interesting, looks like the whole plastic assembly is changed, not just the rod like the TWM one or ChinoCharles' amazing high-tech shifter

Someone should get that TRD one and compare it to the stock assembly

SmellyTofu · 11-01-2006, 03:11 AM

The TRD one is a whole assembly. No cutting, no bodgy work needed. It maintains the height which I prefer and comes with the boot and knob.

punch · 11-01-2006, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

Looks a little different... excuse the blurry picture, camera phone.

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My buddy actually just hacked a center section out of my stock shifter with an air saw and welded the pieces back together at an angle. My short shifter cost me a 12 pack... haha.

umm that ain't a short shifter, the purpose of a short throw shifter is to reduce the amount the shifter has to travel to shift gears, the pivot points are relocated in a "real short shifter", which requires less travel distance.

ChinoCharles · 11-01-2006, 10:22 AM

The throw is shorter.

riceboy · 11-01-2006, 10:33 AM

I would rather keep the stock height.... dropping it will make it way too low... at least for me....

Katana · 11-01-2006, 12:09 PM

Well I would like to reduce the distance between gear changing.

pxpaulx · 11-01-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by punch

umm that ain't a short shifter, the purpose of a short throw shifter is to reduce the amount the shifter has to travel to shift gears, the pivot points are relocated in a "real short shifter", which requires less travel distance.

That may be true, but simply shortening the length of the shifter does create a shorter distance of travel at the shift knob's highest point (which is where you are grabbing the shifter).

Think of it like two lines coming to a point - the point being the base of the shifter. if the two lines are longer, there is a greater distance between the end points that are opposite to the shared point. shorten the lines, shorten the distance.

SmellyTofu · 11-01-2006, 02:43 PM

I think the point of a SS is reduce the throw, BUT maintain height and the force necessary to move the lever between gears. By cutting the rod will reduce the throw but increase the effort needed to move between gears.

ChinoCharles · 11-01-2006, 02:44 PM

I want that boot... where did you get it?

pxpaulx · 11-01-2006, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmellyTofu

I think the point of a SS is reduce the throw, BUT maintain height and the force necessary to move the lever between gears. By cutting the rod will reduce the throw but increase the effort needed to move between gears.

That makes total sense - with a lowered shift knob you'll end up with a bad back!

ChinoCharles · 11-01-2006, 03:04 PM

Its true... the amount of force necessary to shift is still the same. Will a shifter bushing kit from TWM help with that? Or the C-ONE clutch line?

SmellyTofu · 11-01-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

I want that boot... where did you get it?

Comes with the TRD SS kit.

riceboy · 11-01-2006, 05:19 PM

pricing???

KSIbucky · 11-01-2006, 05:28 PM

in a sports car they keep the shifter height wise low and sorry but this is just an everyday car and the way you sit in the car it would just work better if you just had a short throw not just a short shift rod deal thing

ChinoCharles · 11-01-2006, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by echo_hrs

Metal bushings will make the shifts more postive, stiffer and easier to get into gear, rather than the rubbery stock feeling...

The TRD Quickshift includes the bushings...

The TRD is a true "quick" shifter, it changes the fulcrum: the angle at which the lever engages the gears, making throws shorter and more direct, while maintaining the stock height, and not requiring more effort to shift into gear...The TRD also includes the entire assy so that you don't have to cannibalize your stock shifter...

The TWM also changes the fulcrum to allow shorter throws, but also shortens the shifter length, which has no bearing on the shortness of throws...A shorter shaft will increase the effort required to shift the car into gear as well...The TWM is only the lever and not the cage...+ bushings seperately...

Ultimately, they are both quality pieces of kit, it really depends on what you are looking for with your swap...

If my shifter was any shorter I'd have to lean forward to shift the car which is pointless...

Cheers

Thank you echo_hrs! I got it now... I was kind of confused when I saw the TRD shifter on the web because it had the whole cage, while TWM's shifter online looked like just a . Basically, we (monster garaged, ghetto rigged... whatever you want to call it) TWM's product. When it snaps in two I'll post about it, don't worry.

I'll be buying the bushings from TWM soon.

03Z33 · 11-01-2006, 10:21 PM

Here's a link to the one on the TRD site:

http://www.trdparts.jp/english/parts_quickshift.html

I believe it's the same as the old Vitz/Echo (NCP10) even though it doesn't say so on that link above... can anyone confirm?

I like having my shifter sit real high... so I don't have to reach at all from my seat. I added a tall bubble shift knob (8" tall) and it feels great, only issue is the throw is a bit long now and the shifter isn't weighted so it took a little getting used to. I think this knob with the TRD assembly would be a perfect match for me.

10-31-2006, 11:54 PM	#1
KSIbucky View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris manual dark silver Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fond du Lac, WI Posts: 694	quick shifter would this work for a yaris or am i better of just getting a yaris short shifterhttp://www.trdparts4u.com/PD-PTR04-5....aspx?MakeID=1 __________________ 7 Color Tach Fujita Intake Momo pedals Shift knob and boot. Full TRD SSK. Blitz exhaust Megan Lowering Springs (Next is DC Header)

11-01-2006, 02:07 AM	#3
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	That TRD one is interesting, looks like the whole plastic assembly is changed, not just the rod like the TWM one or ChinoCharles' amazing high-tech shifter Someone should get that TRD one and compare it to the stock assembly __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

11-01-2006, 12:09 PM	#8
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	Well I would like to reduce the distance between gear changing. __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

11-01-2006, 05:28 PM	#16
KSIbucky View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris manual dark silver Join Date: May 2006 Location: Fond du Lac, WI Posts: 694	in a sports car they keep the shifter height wise low and sorry but this is just an everyday car and the way you sit in the car it would just work better if you just had a short throw not just a short shift rod deal thing __________________ 7 Color Tach Fujita Intake Momo pedals Shift knob and boot. Full TRD SSK. Blitz exhaust Megan Lowering Springs (Next is DC Header)

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ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Looks a little different... excuse the blurry picture, camera phone. 100531169_320893837_0.jpg My buddy actually just hacked a center section out of my stock shifter with an air saw and welded the pieces back together at an angle. My short shifter cost me a 12 pack... haha.

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SmellyTofu 好多人& Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 264	The TRD one is a whole assembly. No cutting, no bodgy work needed. It maintains the height which I prefer and comes with the boot and knob.

11-01-2006, 10:22 AM	#6
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	The throw is shorter.

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riceboy Drives: icebox Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CAN Posts: 1,003	I would rather keep the stock height.... dropping it will make it way too low... at least for me....

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ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	I want that boot... where did you get it?

11-01-2006, 03:04 PM	#13
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Its true... the amount of force necessary to shift is still the same. Will a shifter bushing kit from TWM help with that? Or the C-ONE clutch line?

11-01-2006, 05:19 PM	#15
riceboy Drives: icebox Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CAN Posts: 1,003	pricing???

11-01-2006, 10:21 PM	#18
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	Here's a link to the one on the TRD site: http://www.trdparts.jp/english/parts_quickshift.html I believe it's the same as the old Vitz/Echo (NCP10) even though it doesn't say so on that link above... can anyone confirm? I like having my shifter sit real high... so I don't have to reach at all from my seat. I added a tall bubble shift knob (8" tall) and it feels great, only issue is the throw is a bit long now and the shifter isn't weighted so it took a little getting used to. I think this knob with the TRD assembly would be a perfect match for me.