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Old 11-04-2010, 07:16 AM   #469
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145hp

I guess most of the power is locked up in the head
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Old 11-04-2010, 08:10 AM   #470
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not bad result for the atmospheric engine ;)
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:08 AM   #471
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^ balanced and blueprinted also, not all in the head work. An inspiring result for an N/A build on that motor.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:46 AM   #472
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and I'm sure if they weren't restricted to certain stock parts it would be even higher. TB, intake manifold... ect.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:38 PM   #473
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^ balanced and blueprinted also, not all in the head work. An inspiring result for an N/A build on that motor.
Don't believe most of the info you are reading out there... Tons of people just take the Toyota press release and try to sexy it up - even the Toyota release has a typo, we did not start with a 5-door. The engine is not balanced and blueprinted, 100% OE Toyota bottom end, never touched.

Also keep in mind, as I said when I posted the old dyno sheet, this is from a Dynapak, these are not at the wheels numbers. While I think we made great power for our first crack at this engine, it is not a 145hp at the wheels monster. In reality it should be down a hp or two from that, since we had to pull what was left of the aluminum pulleys off.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:51 PM   #474
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hmm, Ok I sit corrected.

isn't the old dyno before cams and management change, though?
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:57 PM   #475
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145hp@7252rpm

moar redline?
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:00 PM   #476
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Here is the dyno graph before the AEM EMS 2.

oh, i see....peak power rpm fudged by toyota?
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:26 PM   #477
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hmm, Ok I sit corrected.

isn't the old dyno before cams and management change, though?
Yes it was. I think the head and cams yielded a very small return.

Bolt-ons and the Camcon will get you 90% of what we made. For the rest you need to get past the rev limiter, the AEM got us that, and better control of VVT-i, this is where the next chunk of power came from.

With our Level 2 prep limits only allowing us max .390 cam lift, and port matching 1" in, we did not make a lot of power on the head. There is still a lot left in there, but as long was we race the car in H Prod we can't go further into the head.
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:28 PM   #478
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oh, i see....peak power rpm fudged by toyota?
No, that was our old dyno sheet. Before the AEM, cams and port work. That was bolt-ons and the Camcon.
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:06 PM   #479
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No, that was our old dyno sheet. Before the AEM, cams and port work. That was bolt-ons and the Camcon.
i wouldnt mind seeing the newer dyno sheet if you have access to it...
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Old 11-05-2010, 08:41 AM   #480
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What all bolt-ons did you have on? Is there list somewhere?
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What all bolt-ons did you have on? Is there list somewhere?
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Old 11-05-2010, 12:14 PM   #482
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What all bolt-ons did you have on? Is there list somewhere?
All of the parts are listed in the story in SportsCar, there is a link to download a PDF of it in this thread.

In a nutshell - the power stuff:
AEM EMS series 2 - you need the ability to control the VVT-i/fuel/ign to make all the other parts work to full potential. Without a tune you will get minimal gains from the rest. This car was originally tuned for economy and reliability, there is a lot of power that can be unlocked with a proper tune.
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NST pulleys - these were on when we did the dyno runs, and for most of the season. Once we started running 7300+rpm on the track the crank pulley failed, so we went back to stock.
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Old 11-05-2010, 01:28 PM   #483
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Awesome, thanks Jason. Your car rocks. Finally some motivation to try and pull some N/A power from a 1NZFE.
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Old 11-05-2010, 04:40 PM   #484
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:55 AM   #485
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NST pulleys - these were on when we did the dyno runs, and for most of the season. Once we started running 7300+rpm on the track the crank pulley failed, so we went back to stock.
am i reading this right? you had the NST pulleys installed, then when u tweeked the engine and started running higher revs the NST crank shaft pulley broke? how bad was the damage?

also, im assuming that the NST pulleys are a bad idea for running past the stock rev limiter then?

this worries me cuz i just installed these guys and i autocross. sometimes on a quick straight i will stay in second and let the rev limiter bounce if there is a quick turn not to far but would be losing time if i go to third.
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Old 11-06-2010, 11:54 AM   #486
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If you're on your rev limiter, you are at around 6250. You can't run past the stock rev limiter.

Jason's pulley broke in two, completely destroyed. Pretty sure a pic got posted.
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