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Old 01-18-2011, 02:12 PM   #19
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Would it make sense to do the clutch at the same time?
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:26 PM   #20
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Would it make sense to do the clutch at the same time?
100% yes.

Otherwise you're taking the transmission off twice.

It still takes me about 2 hours to get the transmission off and on again and I know exactly what to do. I've done it about 4 times now. So if you're doing it yourself and you've never done a clutch or flywheel, you can bank on it being at least a 6-8 hour job.
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Old 01-27-2011, 05:39 PM   #21
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UPDATE:

Forged steel remains in a solid state throughout the manufacturing process, maintaining a tighter grain structure resulting in higher performance loads.

· Forging does not allow for porosity in castings and ensures a more reliable consistent material flow throughout the part.

· Eliminates ring gear separation.

· Eliminates friction surface and flywheel warpage.

· One piece ring gear for high durability.

· Stamped with 4140 forged plate with 2000 ton pressure at 1260 degrees.

· CNC machined and balanced to OE specifications.

· Meets and exceeds SFI 1.5 specifications.

· The lightweight steel (heavier) version preserves low end torque and drivability.

· All steel flywheels work with any performance and OE clutch assembly.


ETA is about 30-45 days.
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Old 02-06-2011, 12:52 AM   #22
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100% yes.

Otherwise you're taking the transmission off twice.

It still takes me about 2 hours to get the transmission off and on again and I know exactly what to do. I've done it about 4 times now. So if you're doing it yourself and you've never done a clutch or flywheel, you can bank on it being at least a 6-8 hour job.
It pays a tech 7 hours to do, so for someone who hasn't done one before (especially in a driveway or without a lift) I'd make sure you have a couple days down time for it.
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Old 05-04-2011, 04:43 PM   #23
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UPDATE:

Flywheels are now in stock! And we got more good news. Besides the 9.64 lb light flywheel, we got an ultralight 8.64 lb flywheel -- that is the lightest made I'm pretty sure.

Going up into the store as we speak.... woot!
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:05 PM   #24
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My Fidanza flywheel is 8.00 lbs. I weighed I on my digital kitchen scale. The stocker in the echo is a whopping 18 lbs.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:42 AM   #25
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^ Those are both different numbers than the Yaris. Yaris stock is 15 pounds, and the Fidanza is 9-something.
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:34 PM   #26
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Here is the Ultralight version (8.64 lb):



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Old 05-05-2011, 02:54 PM   #27
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If I was going to pair one of these flywheels with an aftermarket clutch, what stage clutch would you recommend and why?


Keeping in mind I use the car for high speed(whenever possible) long distance commuting, and stop and go LA traffic primarily.
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Depends on why you want a clutch. Just for more "grabbiness", or for a future mod that will actually require more clampng force?
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Old 05-05-2011, 08:55 PM   #29
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Depends on why you want a clutch. Just for more "grabbiness", or for a future mod that will actually require more clampng force?

Besides price, are there disadvantages running something in preparation for more power, but far down the road? I'm worried about wearing out the performance clutch before I get around to the mod that requires it. I don't see my current clutch lasting that long so I'll have to pick the clutch long before I decide on the mod... supercharger v. turbo.
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^ Those are both different numbers than the Yaris. Yaris stock is 15 pounds, and the Fidanza is 9-something.
weird why it's different

but this one looks like it would make for faster revs because the majority of the mass is contained closer to the center than the Fidanza.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:53 AM   #31
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^ Yeah, agreed, I don't know either. Maybe we can compare pics of stock flywheels?

mazilla, The Clutchmaster Stage 3 is an awesome clutch that will last a very long time, and take just about whatever power you throw at it. I really like CM for their design, their clutches don't feel very stiff for the clamping force they deliver. And for their customer service. I can get the Stage 2, but with pedal feel the same, there's really no reason to go with that.

I had an Exedy Stage II and that thing was just too stiff for the street. My CM Stage 4 by comparison gives an almost stock pedal feel.

I should also be getting some CCI clutches that will be a better deal, but I haven't tried one so I can't say with confidence how it will actually feel.
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The Echo Flywheels for comparison

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Old 05-06-2011, 11:51 AM   #33
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yep, that's quite a bit different than ours.
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