Yaris Sedan Discontinued?

[green-phoenix]

Originally Posted by Hershey

G.P. which dealer you go with ? Hopefully I'm not being too nosey .

Nope, doesn't bother me if you want to know. I didn't post it before just because it wasn't really on-topic. We went with Toyota of Iowa City. We bought our last Camry from the Cedar Rapids dealership, which I can't recommend. There's a long story in that, but the short of it is the Cedar Rapids dealership just has problems and we should have just ignored them for the Yaris from the start.

Also update on the discontinued sedan thing. Edmunds has a stub article up saying it's in the process of reviewing the "2011 Toyota Yaris Hybrid Sedan." Perhaps the Sedan will only be available in the hybrid now and that is the change.

Treehugger has an update to the Yaris Hybrid posts that speculates: "The story from Asahi/Reuters mentioned that the Yaris-based hybrid would use the "platform and engine" of the Yaris, but it didn't say specifically that it would be a Yaris per se. Now that automakers know that dedicated hybrids sell better than hybrid versions of regular cars (Civic hybrid vs. Prius), it wouldn't be surprising if when Toyota decides to make a hybrid Yaris it changed the appearance of the vehicle and branded it as a different model."

It may be the different trim levels are just too confusing for buyers. So "Yaris" becomes the name of the liftback model only for the same reason they come out with a Yaris-based new hybrid that's branded with a different name.

[landrym28]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

It has seemed to me that the Yaris sedan and Corolla are aimed at pretty nearly the same niche.

+1. The Yaris LB is a unique car, and there's nothing in the toyota line of cars that is similar to the LB. The sedan, however, I could understand them thinking of discontinuing it, especially if, when push comes to shove, cost wise, it would make more sense to drive the Corolla.

If course, I'll believe it when I read it from Toyota themselves.

[Thirty-Nine]

I see more sedans than I do liftbacks. And, frankly, I think the current Yaris sedan is less plasticy than the current Corolla.

[Twistoffate0817]

When I was car shopping for my Yaris, I was told that the hatchbacks were no longer being ordered by that specific dealership. So that is how I ended up with a 2009 model hatch.

[Kal-El]

Originally Posted by Yaris Hilton

It has seemed to me that the Yaris sedan and Corolla are aimed at pretty nearly the same niche.

I have to disagree.

On average, the Corolla costs thousands more the the Yaris sedan. Sure a loaded Yaris can get up there but then again a loaded Corolla can go over $20K.

Never mind the significant size difference. The Corolla is a good amount bigger than the last generation Corolla that was more on par with Yaris's size. If people are cross shopping Corolla and Yaris, then there are those cross shopping the Corolla and Camry as well.

Realistically, they are all very different segments and for Toyota to drop the hot sub-compact sedan segment would be a massive mistake.

Will Toyota market 2 names going forward and separate the sedan and hatch? Perhaps, but there's no way in hell that Toyota will stop selling a sub-compact sedan.

[Hershey]

we chose both the YARII over the '08 and '09 COROLLA due to less rattles ( new cars ) , better ride , and less expensive ( rebates , dealer discount , less sticker price ) .

[Yaris Hilton]

Basically we got into Yaris sedans because they were the successor to the Echo, which was a very nice little car.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I hope they just drop the Yaris name in the sedan and rename it Vios. Places I'm at, I see slightly more LB's than I do sedans, probably out of 10 "Yarii" I see, 6-7 are LBs. Also, size wise between the Corolla and the Vios, not much. The Corolla has a bigger trunk, same size rear seating (imo), and slightly more leg space in the front seats (I went with my bro to test drive one he was looking at).

[Zaphod]

I definitely notice more sedans than liftbacks in St. Louis.

Only recently have I started seeing more liftbacks on the road.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Not sure why various areas have more of one than the other.

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna

Not sure why various areas have more of one than the other.

seems like college and party areas have more liftbacks...

[Reeves360]

Originally Posted by green-phoenix

UPDATE: It's been confirmed by another dealer now that had tried to get order info for us. Not publicly announced, but it does appear the Yaris Sedan ends in 2010.

Edmunds has a stub article up saying it's in the process of reviewing the "2011 Toyota Yaris Hybrid Sedan." Perhaps the Sedan will only be available in the hybrid now and that is the change? A Treehugger update suggests it's coming but may be branded as something other than Yaris.

If anyone else wants to try to confirm that info either way I'm happy to update the OP with what you find out. And yes I've seen the tentative dealer reference sheets for May, and they would have been printed before this supposed "meeting" we were told happened a week or two ago.
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We're looking to buy a 2010 Yaris Sedan, but our local dealer just told us it's being discontinued, and we can't order one with the features we want. I've not seen that anywhere else on the net. Can anyone confirm that?
thanks

I don't think the original deal was being dishonest. Here are some key points people seem to be missing.

The customer asked the incorrect question. The customer asked the dealer if they could "order" not "buy" a Yaris Sedan. Let's assume the Yaris is going to be re-released in 2011 as a hybrid. If this is true you couldn't "order" a Yaris but you could pick up many of the models already on the lot.

The customer stated "we can't order one with the feature we want". Some combos of features are ordered from the factory built to order and generally aren't requested by most dealerships.

If these are the facts the the sales man is completely correct. Maybe the dealership can't order the specific sedan with the exact options he wanted because Toyota the manufacture is no longer taking orders from Toyota the dealerships.

Now on to the next dispute, is the car really being discontinued?

I have no proof to link you guys to right this minute but a little over a year ago I remember coming across some articles that were speculating that Toyota would move it's Yaris Sedan into the hybrid market.

The reason for this change is the demand for hybrid vehicles has gone up and to compete with the Nissan Leaf and the Chevy Volt. What Toyota wants to do is have the cheapest hybrid vehicle on the market. I think I remember they were going to try to stay in the 17k range for the base model. Compare that to the Chevy Volt which will be in the 40k+ range.

This is great news considering I was going to buy a Prius but couldn't justify the additional cost vs the added 2 miles a difference in gas mileage when compared to the Yaris. Even though I drive 100+ miles a day it would take me over 10 years to start saving money.

So a Yaris Sedan hybrid for under 20k, I'm all about it.

Sounds like to me Toyota knows exactly what they are doing and we have nothing to worry about when it comes to loosing the Yaris Sedan, it's just going to become a hybrid which is why I bought the Yaris in the first place. Hybrid like mileage with out the Hybrid like price.

[Thirty-Nine]

This will be interesting. I checked Toyota's press site; nothing to be said there about this (yet?).

[djct_watt]

Egg on my face if it proves to be true. I'll wait for a press release.

[birdman]

The sedan has such a cheerful look I cant imagine it being cut.

[why?]

we know for a fact that a smaller, less expensive hybrid is coming. But that in no way means it could replace the Yaris sedan.

[djct_watt]

Man, I have no idea why everyone is SO keen on believe their dealers. Oh noes, the new supra is coming, it was supposed to be here in 2005, but it'll be here next week really. Oh noes, Toyota will release a RWD 400hp coupe for under $20,000. Yeah.

Ok,
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...137#post493137
which quotes data from
[http://www.insideline.com/toyota/2011-toyotas-priced.html[/url]

and this source direct from Toyota confirms a Sedan:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/t...11-163951.aspx

Yeah, you received a special deal, just for you from the "manager," but you have to buy it today. What will it take for you to buy this car (that we have in stock and need to get rid of) today?

[djct_watt]

Originally Posted by djct_watt

Man, I have no idea why everyone is SO keen on believe their dealers. Oh noes, the new supra is coming, it was supposed to be here in 2005, but it'll be here next week really. Oh noes, Toyota will release a RWD 400hp coupe for under $20,000. Yeah.

Ok,
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...137#post493137
which quotes data from
[http://www.insideline.com/toyota/2011-toyotas-priced.html[/url]

and this source direct from Toyota confirms a Sedan:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/t...11-163951.aspx

Yeah, you received a special deal, just for you from the "manager," but you have to buy it today. What will it take for you to buy this car (that we have in stock and need to get rid of) today?

Amazing that there are soooooo many replies to completely false and fake rumor spread by SALESPEOPLE (the absolute best source of automotive information EVARRRR) but no responses to the the myth being busted.