Max Speed in Each Gear for 5 speed man. Yaris with no tach??

[09TRD]

Anyone know what they are?

My '97 Tacoma owner's manual listed the max speeds in each gear for manual trans trucks with no tach and I'm wondering if there's similar info out for the Yaris.

I am picking up my '09 TRD equipped 5 speed hatch (base model) next Friday and I'd like to know how fast I can go in each gear in order to achieve maximum acceleration.

NOTE: I THINK THIS INFO COULD BE IN THE OWNER'S MANUAL; MAYBE SOMEONE COULD CHECK...

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by PK198105

first 1000km forget about ripping the car , let it settle first.

1st - 50Km/h 31mph
2nd - 70km/h 44mph
3rd - 95km/h 60mph
4th -130km/h 80mph
5th - maxes out around 195km/h 121mph

I'm well aware of what's required in breaking in a new car, but thanks for the advice and the information.

Is that information published in the owner's manual?

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by PK198105

yes it is , but they are more conservative then what i told you.

Where did you get your numbers from, then?

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by PK198105

personal experience, data i gathered from my OBDII scanner and other members.
I probably misunderstood your question , i thought you wanted the aggressive driving numbers and not the factory recommendation, if you want ill go get the manual now

I'd appreciate both sets of figures.

I assumed that the "maximum acceleration" shift point numbers published in the owner's manual would correlate to engine red-line in each gear. Is that not the case?

Do your numbers correlate to engine red-line?

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by PK198105

From Manual:
Max allowable speed:

1st - 51kmh 31mph
2nd - 95kmh 59mph
3rd - 139kmh 86mph

Originally Posted by PK198105

1st - 50Km/h 31mph
2nd - 70km/h 44mph
3rd - 95km/h 60mph
4th -130km/h 80mph
5th - maxes out around 195km/h 121mph

I don't understand.

The owner's manual says 59 MPH can be achieved in 2nd gear, while you say 44 MPH...

And the owner's manual says 86 MPH in 3rd gear, which is faster than the 80 MPH you listed for 4th gear...

And why does the owner's manual only list the first 3 gears for a 5 speed manual trans...?

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by PK198105

i suspect that their numbers are basically all the way in the redline. like i said in the previous post i never go past 5500rpms

the redline in the Yaris is at 6500rpm

The manual says 86 MPH in 3rd gear, while you say 80 MPH in 4th gear. That difference is more than 1,000 RPM.

Yet, both you and the manual say 31 MPH in 1st gear...

There's nothing wrong with revving these engines to redline - even on a relatively frequent basis. This engine is a DOHC/16 valve with variable valve timing. It's designed to rev.

I did it with all three of the 4 cylinder Toyotas I've owned for many, many miles and never had a problem.

So I'm going by the owner's manual recommendations when I'm looking for strong acceleration...

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by PK198105

oh i know that they are capable of taking the abuse, but its more of a personal choice i hate the screaming of the engine i feel like im braking it. but on a race track with a race car i couldn't care less

Well I'm using the owner's manual as the guideline...Thanks for the information.

These 1.5 liter Yaris engines have no problem with revs. They have strong, lightweight internals and a valvetrain that's built for it. I plan on running Mobil 1 exclusively in it after the first change.

My '09 LS3 Corvette redlines @ 6,500 RPM and that's a pushrod, 6.2 liter V8. That's only got 1,200 miles on it and it started seeing redline after 600 easy break-in miles. It's a nice DRIVING car. Too bad GM has to ruin it in the usual way (cheap seats, crappy sounding stereo and electronics/power accessories that break constantly).

[PETERPOOP]

just buy a tach and shift at 6000rpm

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by PETERPOOP

just buy a tach and shift at 6000rpm

A tach isn't really necessary and I've no plans to install one.

All you really need to know is the max allowable engine speeds (e.g. red-line) in each gear. That information is apparently included in the owner's manual - as was the case with my '97 Tacoma.

[MUSKOKA800]

Originally Posted by PK198105

first 1000km forget about ripping the car , let it settle first.

1st - 50Km/h 31mph
2nd - 70km/h 44mph
3rd - 95km/h 60mph
4th -130km/h 80mph
5th - maxes out around 195km/h 121mph

That's not the way Aarton would have done it.

[09TRD]

Originally Posted by MUSKOKA800

That's not the way Aarton would have done it.

He wouldn't have spelled his name that way, either.

He spelled it Aryton.

More modern F1 driver's shift using indicator lights and I believe those were around before Senna's fatal crash.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

1st:about 32mph
2nd about 63 mph
3rd about 81 mph
4th around 102 mph
5th cuts off at just 117/118..........

im not stock and have I/H/E, crank pulley.........

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

1st:about 32mph
2nd about 63 mph
3rd about 81 mph
4th around 102 mph
5th cuts off at just 117/118..........

im not stock and have I/H/E, crank pulley.........

Mods don't effect the outcome of your top speed in any gear.

And I don't get why PK's numbers differ from these? I get these numbers too, in my Yaris.

[grampi]

I don't understand why cars equipped with manual transmissions don't come with a tach (even base models). The exact purpopse of having a tach is to let you know when to shift, which is something you need with a manual tranny.

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

Mods don't effect the outcome of your top speed in any gear.

And I don't get why PK's numbers differ from these? I get these numbers too, in my Yaris.

threw that in there cause my numbers were different from pk's......

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by ROCKLAND TOYOTA

threw that in there cause my numbers were different from pk's......

Oh no, don't trip dude. My numbers are the same as yours, not PK's, thats why I'm asking.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by grampi

I don't understand why cars equipped with manual transmissions don't come with a tach (even base models). The exact purpopse of having a tach is to let you know when to shift, which is something you need with a manual tranny.

Because you simply don't need a tach to drive. Auto or manual.

[MUSKOKA800]

Originally Posted by PK198105

yes in 94 they had the lights not as sophisticated as these days but they had those also.

To MUSKOKA800:

primo Ayrton Senna did not own a Yaris, secundo he is the best F1 driver i'm not , and finally my Yaris is still under warranty as soon as that is gone then I will get a new car and use the Yaris as a track car.

Just teasing!
Anyway, reving is harmless. Over-reving on the other hand

And yes, Ayrton was the best! My favorite for sure.