My thoughts regarding this forum - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Imagine · 08-31-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jdium

But someone putting an exhaust and an antenna on his yaris does not seem to warrant the same term...

An antenna would be considered a "ricer" mod. Since it's mainly for looks and does nothing for the performance of the car. An exhaust alone really wouldn't qualify the person as a tuner either. However, the exhaust is part of the equation. A tuner is someone who looks to achieve more power. In my book simple bolt on parts doesn't really make someone a tuner..

nsmitchell · 08-31-2007, 09:11 AM

One man' tuning is another man's rice. I love carbon fiber mods. hehe They shave off some weight, but throw a gallon of milk in the trunk and you are back to the same weight. hehe I saw a carbon fiber hood and trunk on an friggin Hyundai Elantra. lol

nqd · 08-31-2007, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Imagine

A tuner is someone who looks to achieve more power. In my book simple bolt on parts doesn't really make someone a tuner..

The easiest source of achieving power is from bolt on's.

Imagine · 08-31-2007, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nqd

The easiest source of achieving power is from bolt on's.

At what expense? Three or 4 HP for about $1000. That in my book is a waste of money. In some cases it even reduces power. It changes power delivery.. Some freer flowing exhausts may give you a couple max power gains at 6k rpms, but reduce power in the lower RPMs where most daily driven cars spend most of the time. IMO, that stuff is nearly pointless unless it's supporting a NA build, or some sort of forced induction. Other wise, those parts are more for look and sound.

I know a lot of people wont agree with me, but thats my opinion. I've been in the import scene for almost 10 years now. I've been there, done that, and learned my lesson. I'm not saying that it's wrong. It's your car, do as you'd like I don't think any less of anyone for doing it. It's just not my thing anymore. I'd rather put money in quality suspension parts, and good tires then save for a turbo or something in that area. It's all personal preference.

nsmitchell · 08-31-2007, 10:41 AM

Turbos are not rice, that for sure.

Most ricers can't afford a turbo, but will install the gadget that makes it sound as if you have a turbo, you will also need the obligatory fart can for the fake turbo to achieve it's full potential... and a hood scoop, very important for the fake turbo to get maximum turbosity and spoolyness.

nqd · 08-31-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nsmitchell

Turbos are not rice, that for sure.

Most ricers can't afford a turbo, but will install the gadget that makes it sound as if you have a turbo, you will also need the obligatory fart can for the fake turbo to achieve it's full potential... and a hood scoop, very important for the fake turbo to get maximum turbosity and spoolyness.

:bellyrol l:

Imagine · 08-31-2007, 11:02 AM

Here you go..

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TURBO SOUND WHISTLERS!

TURBO SOUND WHISTLER defintion: A turbo simulator device that locks inside your exhaust tip and uses the pressure of the exiting air to produce the high-pitched "spooling" of a turbocharger. It is the closest thing on the market that simulates the "spooling" sound of a turbocharger for the fraction of the cost of a turbo system. Works with manual or auto. Works with stock exhaust and aftermarket exhaust systems. SOUND TURBO-CHARGED with the TURBO WHISTLER!

$ 18.95

Imagine · 08-31-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by nsmitchell

Turbos are not rice, that for sure.

If that was directed at my comment, I think you misunderstood me.. I wasn't saying Id rather have suspension over a turbo. I was saying I'd rather save for a turbo once the suspension has been upgraded instead of spending money on mods that don't net you much like an I/H/E.

Turbos are NOT rice.. Turbos own.

*kimona* · 08-31-2007, 11:29 AM

One of the dumbest discussions on the forum!

nsmitchell · 08-31-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Imagine

If that was directed at my comment, I think you misunderstood me.. I wasn't saying Id rather have suspension over a turbo. I was saying I'd rather save for a turbo once the suspension has been upgraded instead of spending money on mods that don't net you much like an I/H/E.

Turbos are NOT rice.. Turbos own.

No, I was agreeing with you. Real turbos kick ass! I was just making fun of the little fake turbo device. 200HP is not rice! Racing a Mustang 5.0 in a Yaris and winning is not rice, thats the BEEF!

jdium · 08-31-2007, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kimona

One of the dumbest discussions on the forum!

It got you to post...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imagine

At what expense? Three or 4 HP for about $1000. That in my book is a waste of money. In some cases it even reduces power. It changes power delivery.. Some freer flowing exhausts may give you a couple max power gains at 6k rpms, but reduce power in the lower RPMs where most daily driven cars spend most of the time. IMO, that stuff is nearly pointless unless it's supporting a NA build, or some sort of forced induction. Other wise, those parts are more for look and sound.

I know a lot of people wont agree with me, but thats my opinion. I've been in the import scene for almost 10 years now. I've been there, done that, and learned my lesson. I'm not saying that it's wrong. It's your car, do as you'd like I don't think any less of anyone for doing it. It's just not my thing anymore. I'd rather put money in quality suspension parts, and good tires then save for a turbo or something in that area. It's all personal preference.

Someone actually has some common sense! Trying to get 3 more hp from a 104 hp engine is like a 400 lb chick losing 8 lbs...Nobody can tell... IMO, unless you are doing a drastic change, like an engine swap or a build/turbo, there is not much improvement to be had. For my money, I'm going to spend it on making this car out handle a cheetah...

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Originally Posted by nsmitchell

No, I was agreeing with you. Real turbos kick ass! I was just making fun of the little fake turbo device. 200HP is not rice! Racing a Mustang 5.0 in a Yaris and winning is not rice, thats the BEEF!

Ya, real turbo's kick ass. But personally, I'll hop in my Mustang 5.0 if I need to race another Mustang 5.0. That way I still have a warranty and 40 mpg's with the daily driver...

ToyotaTEch21 · 08-31-2007, 07:43 PM

To me it works like this:

Molded Veilside body kit= Tuner
Ebay fiberglass body kit, unpainted for 2 years held on with wood screws= rice

Big spoiler on a Supra=Tuner
Big spoiler on a K car thats on backwards= rice

Carbon fiber hood with a scoop= tuner
A stick on scoop from pep boys thats falling off= rice

Now I'm not hating on the people who buy the cheap parts. If thats what you can afford go for it. I am however hating on the hacks who mod their cars, do a shitty job and go around acting like they are chip foose. I really dont care what parts people put on their cars. But its the cars that come into the shop where I work that have poorly installed parts. (wiring thats a fire hazard or after market wheels without hub centric rings installed, Fart can mufflers supported with a coat hanger) These People are the ricers to me.

Chino said something about he himself being a ricer. I say bullshit Chino, you're a Tuner.

CF-Shane · 08-31-2007, 08:22 PM

Ugh... yeah the wiring thing, tell me about it. I just fixed a friend's installation. He paid a shop to install his DVD/Navigation system, and they screwed it up. The funny part is that I said I'd do it for half what they charged him and he got impatient because I was schedule-challenged at the time. I had to re-do it anyhow, as they had just twisted wires together and wrapped them with electrical tape. It's not just half-assery by owners, you'd be suprised what kind of ghetto installs come out of "reputable" shops these days, too.

death is my gift · 08-31-2007, 08:26 PM

It's pretty simple for me. Rice = all show and no go. But I don't think it's a bad thing. Personally I wouldn't do certain things to my Yari (huge ass spoiler), but I am in position to tell others what to do (or not do) with their cars. Some things are just not for me.

joe keeney · 08-31-2007, 09:18 PM

Myself I like the Pork Fry Rice Yaris.

Black Yaris · 09-01-2007, 12:23 AM

so how did we go from "My thoughts regarding this forum", to where we are now? Seems like it just became another HUGH what is and is not rice argument.....

black2yaris · 09-01-2007, 01:52 AM

lock it UP !! it's a waste of time now !! enuff was said at the begining now it's digressing into B.S.

Black Yaris · 09-01-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by black2yaris

lock it UP !! it's a waste of time now !! enuff was said at the begining now it's digressing into B.S.

hear that Churp? That is exactly was I was talking about... we will leave it open for just a bit longer for a responce from Churp, he thinks this thread should be open, and I am willing to hear why he thinks it should stay open before I deciede to close it again

08-31-2007, 09:11 AM	#38
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	One man' tuning is another man's rice. I love carbon fiber mods. hehe They shave off some weight, but throw a gallon of milk in the trunk and you are back to the same weight. hehe I saw a carbon fiber hood and trunk on an friggin Hyundai Elantra. lol __________________ Other car is a 2005 Mustang Convertible 4.0L V6 Manual - Legend Lime Get YarAss in gear! RIP - Casey Tatum

08-31-2007, 10:41 AM	#41
nsmitchell View User's Garage Drives: LB-Auto-PWR-ABS-Cruise-Springs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,065	Turbos are not rice, that for sure. Most ricers can't afford a turbo, but will install the gadget that makes it sound as if you have a turbo, you will also need the obligatory fart can for the fake turbo to achieve it's full potential... and a hood scoop, very important for the fake turbo to get maximum turbosity and spoolyness. __________________ Other car is a 2005 Mustang Convertible 4.0L V6 Manual - Legend Lime Get YarAss in gear! RIP - Casey Tatum

08-31-2007, 08:26 PM	#50
death is my gift wacky broadway nightmare View User's Garage Drives: Willow is a '07 Red Yaris LB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: dallas Posts: 621	It's pretty simple for me. Rice = all show and no go. But I don't think it's a bad thing. Personally I wouldn't do certain things to my Yari (huge ass spoiler), but I am in position to tell others what to do (or not do) with their cars. Some things are just not for me. __________________ "it's always complicated and at some point someone has to draw the line and that is always going to be me. you get down on me for cutting myself off but in the end the slayer is always cut off" Buffy

09-01-2007, 12:23 AM	#52
Black Yaris der Zeck View User's Garage Drives: '05 Audi A4 1.8t quattro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 5,231	so how did we go from "My thoughts regarding this forum", to where we are now? Seems like it just became another HUGH what is and is not rice argument..... __________________ Last edited by Black Yaris; 09-01-2007 at 12:47 AM.

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08-31-2007, 11:29 AM	#45
kimona Super Moderator Drives: 2014 White VITZ Join Date: May 2007 Location: Huntington Bch, CA Posts: 4,938	One of the dumbest discussions on the forum!

08-31-2007, 07:43 PM	#48
ToyotaTEch21 Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bainbridge,NY Posts: 39	To me it works like this: Molded Veilside body kit= Tuner Ebay fiberglass body kit, unpainted for 2 years held on with wood screws= rice Big spoiler on a Supra=Tuner Big spoiler on a K car thats on backwards= rice Carbon fiber hood with a scoop= tuner A stick on scoop from pep boys thats falling off= rice Now I'm not hating on the people who buy the cheap parts. If thats what you can afford go for it. I am however hating on the hacks who mod their cars, do a shitty job and go around acting like they are chip foose. I really dont care what parts people put on their cars. But its the cars that come into the shop where I work that have poorly installed parts. (wiring thats a fire hazard or after market wheels without hub centric rings installed, Fart can mufflers supported with a coat hanger) These People are the ricers to me. Chino said something about he himself being a ricer. I say bullshit Chino, you're a Tuner.

08-31-2007, 08:22 PM	#49
CF-Shane Drives: 1993 Toyota Terecel 2 door Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Plymouth MN Posts: 93	Ugh... yeah the wiring thing, tell me about it. I just fixed a friend's installation. He paid a shop to install his DVD/Navigation system, and they screwed it up. The funny part is that I said I'd do it for half what they charged him and he got impatient because I was schedule-challenged at the time. I had to re-do it anyhow, as they had just twisted wires together and wrapped them with electrical tape. It's not just half-assery by owners, you'd be suprised what kind of ghetto installs come out of "reputable" shops these days, too.

08-31-2007, 09:18 PM	#51
joe keeney Drives: yaris 2 door hatch Join Date: May 2007 Location: hemphill texas Posts: 193	Myself I like the Pork Fry Rice Yaris.

09-01-2007, 01:52 AM	#53
black2yaris The Man In Black Lives View User's Garage Drives: Black Sand Pearl L/B 'o7 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 477	lock it UP !! it's a waste of time now !! enuff was said at the begining now it's digressing into B.S.