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Old 10-13-2009, 02:17 AM   #19
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i think most of the hackers use macs lol

there are like 2 known viruses out there for macs . but they are only applicable if you run MS Office.
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$30? Pffft.

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Old 10-13-2009, 03:11 AM   #21
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you're right...

...

And the whole "Macs are only good for multimedia" argument is so old. Retire it. I hope people don't sincerely believe that...
hmmm.. I do. That's why I have 4 PC's and no macs.

I'm not trying to say that "one brand of computer is better than the other" because THAT argument is so old.

I've used both Mac's and PC's, started out with Apple computers (before Macs) and went over to IBM, back to Macs, then back to PC's, and I like them all for different reasons, but the PC's are more economical plus they're fine for what I do, so ... If I had any spare change laying around, though, I'd probably run over to the Apple store and get a Mac just for fun, to play with.
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well....in all honesty I really do think this thread should get cleaned up back to the original post about getting windows 7 lol
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Let me finish it off with this. MAC's are meant for one thing. Multimedia. For someone who makes videos, photoshopping, music, rendering, Graphics, etc. If you use it as a Personal Computer, then you arent using it's full capacity and that is just a waste. If you are a gamer, then you must go Windows, much more support for it. And also if you arent computer illiterate... It's pretty hard to get a virus. You have to really try, by downloading suspicious crap from sites like www.freeipodsforeveryone.com or by going to very very suspicious pornsites, but i mean if you know anything about the internet, There is like.... 100's of clean sites that imitate youtube. So unless someone is out to get you, as long as you download things from torrents, and official sites. And also watch your video on known sites, its pretty dam hard to get a virus. So what im trying to say is, you have to be an idiot to get one nowadays. And for all the MAC lovers. Go check out Windows 7 and see what it can do.. Its a big.. big.. difference, a very good one.

and it really doesnt matter. If you want the best of both worlds, there is always dual booting both the os's
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:20 PM   #24
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well....in all honesty I really do think this thread should get cleaned up back to the original post about getting windows 7 lol
That's a good point! I was thinking the same thing

thanks for the tip, Astro.
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I'm so anti-mac I won't even own a ipod, lol. With what I do, which is the real business world, we use PCs. In the hundreds if not thousands of PCs im in charge of only 1 is a mac. Yeah, it has less problems, but when it does it's harder to fix. Most of the problems are people not updating. And $50 virus software? Pfft. Plenty of FREE antivirus out there that works better than norton or McAffe. I've been using a RC of 7 since last year and im a believer now. I've never liked a version of windows this much. My netbook with 2gb of ram works sweet with the ultimate version which I need to connect to servers in our systems.

This isn't a mac vs pc vs. the .02% who bother with linux, this is just for those who want a great deal on the home version.
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^ you mean you're anti-Apple then! iPod aren't Macs

Just messing with ya.

I got a serious question for you, then, but let me post it in a different thread so I don't clutter up this one.
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i think most of the hackers use macs lol

there are like 2 known viruses out there for macs . but they are only applicable if you run MS Office.
Just an FYI, your facts are wrong. iWork 09 is not a Microsoft program.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517610,00.html

As has been stated before, as an OS gains popularity, the virus writers will start moving toward programming for it. Windows held almost 90% market share in 2008, so phishing/bots/viruses are going to be focused on hitting that huge market. Apple's steadily gaining marketshare, so enjoy the (almost) virus free playtime while you can.

I don't have anything against Apple (I own an iphone and an ipod) or for MS, but spreading false facts in the name of fanboyism doesn't help anyone.
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Any word on software compatibility? I'd like a faster processor and some more RAM, but I don't want to buy several hundred dollars worth of software as well. ( I don't want to upgrade my aging computer, it is not economically efficient to do so and time for a new one.)
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I'm using Windows and Apple's bastard child right now.

I'm running OS X on a Compaq Presario PC with an Intel Pentium 4.


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Let me finish it off with this. MAC's are meant for one thing. Multimedia. For someone who makes videos, photoshopping, music, rendering, Graphics, etc. If you use it as a Personal Computer, then you arent using it's full capacity and that is just a waste. If you are a gamer, then you must go Windows, much more support for it. And also if you arent computer illiterate... It's pretty hard to get a virus. You have to really try, by downloading suspicious crap from sites like www.freeipodsforeveryone.com or by going to very very suspicious pornsites, but i mean if you know anything about the internet, There is like.... 100's of clean sites that imitate youtube. So unless someone is out to get you, as long as you download things from torrents, and official sites. And also watch your video on known sites, its pretty dam hard to get a virus. So what im trying to say is, you have to be an idiot to get one nowadays. And for all the MAC lovers. Go check out Windows 7 and see what it can do.. Its a big.. big.. difference, a very good one.

and it really doesnt matter. If you want the best of both worlds, there is always dual booting both the os's
If you buy a Mac Pro for use as a desktop than you're right.

If you buy any of their other computers for use as a desktop than you're wrong.

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Any word on software compatibility? I'd like a faster processor and some more RAM, but I don't want to buy several hundred dollars worth of software as well. ( I don't want to upgrade my aging computer, it is not economically efficient to do so and time for a new one.)

If you got with at least Windows7 Professional or ultimate, it has what is called "XP Compatibility Mode" and it works pretty good (from the release candidate versions I've tried, which is 7100 & 7600). Windows7 Home premium does not have this feature. The only program I've honestly had a problem with is that free version of Nero 6 they gave you with DVD recorders. I was able to run Duke Nukem 3D (with hires windows patch) just fine on my netbook, and the hardware requirements aren't that bad. I know my netbook with a 1.6ghz ATOM processor and 1gb RAM ran it just fine, and I get almost the same performance with a faster HD and 2gb RAM.

Here is a hardware article lifted from Tom's Hardware:
System requirements for Windows 7 aren’t any great mystery, but now we’re getting a much better idea of what it’ll say on the retail box.
Microsoft posted relatively modest system requirements (at least for any computer belonging to a Tom’s Hardware reader) when it released the Windows 7 public beta in January and only slightly modified them for the release of yesterday’s Release Candidate.
The system requirements for the beta at the time called for:
  • 1 GHz 32-bit or 64-bit processor
  • 1 GB of system memory
  • 16 GB of available disk space
  • Support for DirectX 9 graphics with 128 MB memory (to enable the Aero theme)
The system requirements published yesterday for the official Release Candidate are the following:
  • 1 GHz or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  • 1 GB of RAM (32-bit)/2 GB of RAM (64-bit)
  • 16 GB of available disk space (32-bit)/20 GB (64-bit)
  • DirectX 9 graphics device with Windows Display Driver Model 1.0 or higher driver
The only real changes to the system requirements since January are slightly bumped up ones for the 64-bit version, though we suspect anyone who plans to run the x64 build will have a machine that’s way beyond the minimum (having at least 4 GB of RAM would be a good starting point).
While the system requirements posted yesterday apply to the Release Candidate, Microsoft told ZDNet that they were ‘final’, though it’s unknown if there will be different requirements between different SKUs such as Starter Edition or Ultimate Edition. “The system requirements are final and not SKU-specific,” said a Microsoft spokesperson.
Those who plan to run XP Mode will need at least 2 GB RAM, 15 GB of additional hard drive space and a processor that supports hardware virtualization.
According to early tests, Windows 7 performs better than Windows Vista on the same hardware.
"It's been a long time since we've had a version of Windows that will actually run better [than the previous version] on the hardware that most customers have," Mike Nash, corporate vice president of Microsoft's Windows product management group, said during a conference call with reporters, quoted by ComputerWorld.
Windows 7 does carry with it slightly heftier system requirements than Vista does, despite it being a better performer. From one generation to the next – and three years later – Windows 7’s system demands does seem positively modest.
For reference, Windows Vista’s system requirements are:
  • 1 GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
  • 512 MB of RAM (for Home Basic); 1 GB of RAM for all other versions
  • 15 GB of available disk space
  • Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory (for Home Basic); 128 MB of graphics memory plus WDDM support for all other versions
Source : Tom's Hardware US
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well....in all honesty I really do think this thread should get cleaned up back to the original post about getting windows 7 lol


This wasn't supposed to be an apple vs. pc battle

come on now.
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Old 10-15-2009, 04:58 PM   #33
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This wasn't supposed to be an apple vs. pc battle

come on now.
you know these are inevitable
Astro probably would have cleaned up the thread this morning if he had felt the need.

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If you got with at least Windows7 Professional or ultimate, it has what is called "XP Compatibility Mode" and it works pretty good (from the release candidate versions I've tried, which is 7100 & 7600). Windows7 Home premium does not have this feature. The only program I've honestly had a problem with is that free version of Nero 6 they gave you with DVD recorders. I was able to run Duke Nukem 3D (with hires windows patch) just fine on my netbook, and the hardware requirements aren't that bad. I know my netbook with a 1.6ghz ATOM processor and 1gb RAM ran it just fine, and I get almost the same performance with a faster HD and 2gb RAM.

Here is a hardware article lifted from Tom's Hardware:
System requirements for Windows 7 aren’t any great mystery, but now we’re getting a much better idea of what it’ll say on the retail box.
Microsoft posted relatively modest system requirements (at least for any computer belonging to a Tom’s Hardware reader) when it released the Windows 7 public beta in January and only slightly modified them for the release of yesterday’s Release Candidate.
The system requirements for the beta at the time called for:
  • 1 GHz 32-bit or 64-bit processor
  • 1 GB of system memory
  • 16 GB of available disk space
  • Support for DirectX 9 graphics with 128 MB memory (to enable the Aero theme)
The system requirements published yesterday for the official Release Candidate are the following:
  • 1 GHz or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
  • 1 GB of RAM (32-bit)/2 GB of RAM (64-bit)
  • 16 GB of available disk space (32-bit)/20 GB (64-bit)
  • DirectX 9 graphics device with Windows Display Driver Model 1.0 or higher driver
The only real changes to the system requirements since January are slightly bumped up ones for the 64-bit version, though we suspect anyone who plans to run the x64 build will have a machine that’s way beyond the minimum (having at least 4 GB of RAM would be a good starting point).
While the system requirements posted yesterday apply to the Release Candidate, Microsoft told ZDNet that they were ‘final’, though it’s unknown if there will be different requirements between different SKUs such as Starter Edition or Ultimate Edition. “The system requirements are final and not SKU-specific,” said a Microsoft spokesperson.
Those who plan to run XP Mode will need at least 2 GB RAM, 15 GB of additional hard drive space and a processor that supports hardware virtualization.
According to early tests, Windows 7 performs better than Windows Vista on the same hardware.
"It's been a long time since we've had a version of Windows that will actually run better [than the previous version] on the hardware that most customers have," Mike Nash, corporate vice president of Microsoft's Windows product management group, said during a conference call with reporters, quoted by ComputerWorld.
Windows 7 does carry with it slightly heftier system requirements than Vista does, despite it being a better performer. From one generation to the next – and three years later – Windows 7’s system demands does seem positively modest.
For reference, Windows Vista’s system requirements are:
  • 1 GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
  • 512 MB of RAM (for Home Basic); 1 GB of RAM for all other versions
  • 15 GB of available disk space
  • Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory (for Home Basic); 128 MB of graphics memory plus WDDM support for all other versions
Source : Tom's Hardware US
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About the original topic..my boyfriend got windows 7 ultimate for ten bucks like two weeks ago. All he had to do was a few quizes on the windows site and then he became "certified" as a windows rep. Hence, for doing that they give you windows 7 for only $10.
And about macs for why they dont get viruses..the new leopard is packed full of spyware stuff..but thats just one of the reasons...and IMO linux is just as cute/stylish/modern or whatever you want to call it and its all free
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