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Old 01-04-2016, 01:19 PM   #127
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We briefly discussed the 3zr, and yes it will probably work but like you said...its not available in the US. The 2zrfae just now showed up here and it was developed in 2010!
If I had some assurance that the 2 litre was the same (externally) as the 1.8, and if I knew that it would bolt up to the 1nzfe tranny (like its looking the 1.8 will) than I would almost go through the effort of importing the 2litre (I know a guy ) ......................................

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Old 01-04-2016, 06:35 PM   #128
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If I had some assurance that the 2 litre was the same (externally) as the 1.8, and if I knew that it would bolt up to the 1nzfe tranny (like its looking the 1.8 will) than I would almost go through the effort of importing the 2litre (I know a guy ) ......................................

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1ZR, 2ZR and 3ZR are more than likely the same as 1NZ and 2NZ. They're all different displacement but otherwise use the same parts. Unlike the 1ZZ and 2ZZ in which are totally different engines.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:03 PM   #129
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I don't believe the 3zr at 150hp is worth the additional effort, and it would not be a legal option. The 2zr has n/a bolt-on potential to 150hp, or you can boost it like Lotus does
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:32 PM   #130
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I don't believe the 3zr at 150hp is worth the additional effort, and it would not be a legal option.
Up here in the land of Igloos / clean water and Universal Health care, "Legal" engine swap is not really on our Radar.

All we have to do for "Emissions Testing" is to plug a scan tool into the OBD port and check for CEL codes. Thats it.

They don't even run sniff tests anymore (for tail-pipe emissions).

I literally have one friend of mine that has a Stand-Alone ECU that runs his car, but just for shits and giggles he keeps a bogus ecu powered up and "properly" setup in the car (Connected to the OBD port) just so that when he has to get a "DriveClean test" (only once every two years), he just takes it to the testing facility , they connect their scan tool - they see that there is an ECU present.. that isn't throwing codes and thats it.

I could frankly install just about any motor I wanted as long as it gave a reading through the OBD port and it didn't show a code DURING the test.


Now back to our regularly scheduled engine swap discussion.
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Old 01-04-2016, 09:34 PM   #131
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The 2zr has n/a bolt-on potential to 150hp, or you can boost it like Lotus does
My thinking with the 2 litre, is the extra torque and the effect that mods would have.

I agree that the 1.8 can be modded (NA), but I'm just thinking that there is no replacement for displacement and the 2 litre would have some nice torque.

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Old 01-04-2016, 09:37 PM   #132
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1ZR, 2ZR and 3ZR are more than likely the same as 1NZ and 2NZ. They're all different displacement but otherwise use the same parts. Unlike the 1ZZ and 2ZZ in which are totally different engines.
thank you, this is reassuring (and I know that you know your stuff)

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Old 01-04-2016, 09:43 PM   #133
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Let's stay on track with the OP. His whole goal is to have a legal way in his state to be able to perform a 2zr swap. The 3zr is our of scope and most likely will never be addressed by folks here as isn't worth the time, money, or efforts for the minor bump in hp/tq over the 2zr.

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Old 01-04-2016, 10:23 PM   #134
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Old 01-05-2016, 12:26 PM   #135
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I understand that a 2.0L has that extra displacement, and I would welcome anyone to try the 3zr swap just to be the first. Its a good idea, just not practical like the 2zr is.

...on another note, all of you should pay close attention to this thread. This swap just got kicked into high gear....El Nino floods resulted in the premature death of my 1NZ today...

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Old 01-06-2016, 03:56 AM   #136
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I understand that a 2.0L has that extra displacement, and I would welcome anyone to try the 3zr swap just to be the first. Its a good idea, just not practical like the 2zr is.

...on another note, all of you should pay close attention to this thread. This swap just got kicked into high gear....El Nino floods resulted in the premature death of my 1NZ today...
Noooo.... Yaaaaaay... Noooo... Yaaaaay....

I have mixed feelings about that
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:10 AM   #137
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Me too.....I guess I had a good run though. 184,000 miles with track days, mountain runs, roadtrips, and autocross. Im going to call my insurance company today and see if flood related damage is covered.
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Old 01-06-2016, 10:41 AM   #138
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Me too.....I guess I had a good run though. 184,000 miles with track days, mountain runs, roadtrips, and autocross. Im going to call my insurance company today and see if flood related damage is covered.
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Sorry to hear about your 1nzfe (and potentially your car)

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Old 01-06-2016, 10:51 AM   #139
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I understand that a 2.0L has that extra displacement, and I would welcome anyone to try the 3zr swap just to be the first. Its a good idea, just not practical like the 2zr is.

...on another note, all of you should pay close attention to this thread. This swap just got kicked into high gear....El Nino floods resulted in the premature death of my 1NZ today...
Ugh, what a bummer. Hope things work out for the best.

Stay safe out there everyone.
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Old 01-06-2016, 08:57 PM   #140
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I have found a 2zr out of a 2013 Corolla with 34k. Once the insurance company does their thing and I get a check....the swap begins....hopefully in the next few days.
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Old 01-07-2016, 07:34 AM   #141
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Pleaseeeeee!!! A DIY!!!

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Old 01-07-2016, 09:26 AM   #142
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Sorry to hear about the flood damage.

Am I right to assume you're not going to be using the 1NZ transmission now?
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Old 01-07-2016, 10:01 AM   #143
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I have a spare transmission, and I dont think the trans is damaged. Ill just do a fluid change.
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Old 01-07-2016, 03:53 PM   #144
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have we talked about the Scion IM 6spd and if it would fit the 2ZR?
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