Micro Image Intake Manifold thread - Page 16 - Toyota Yaris Forums

1.5 · 02-07-2013, 04:29 PM

wooooowwwww

tooter · 02-07-2013, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

The dyno showed +7 whp and torque, not 5 as posted above.

Hey Garm,

Nice production run!

The +7 torque is obvious at about 3,200 and 3,600... but at what rpm is there +7 hp?

I see close to +5hp at about the same rpms as the two torque peaks, and another peak close to +5hp at 4,500. Those are very good numbers especially how they're distributed.

cali yaris · 02-07-2013, 06:58 PM

We did several pulls, this one showed the best distribution of power gains, but not the greatest power gains.

Golddeenoh · 02-07-2013, 07:21 PM

^ then go all Crap Box on us and show the big numbers :P

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 02-07-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cali yaris

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Those look great!

And as for that dyno chart, you have to keep in mind how restrictive the rest of the system is. With I/H/E and a 1ZZ throttle body, I believe this manifold is going to make some good power, especially in the top end.

tooter · 02-08-2013, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

We did several pulls, this one showed the best distribution of power gains, but not the greatest power gains.

Hey Garm,

Could you post the run with the greatest power gains? Showing other runs wouldn't invalidate this one. They would only add additional useful information about your manifold's profile.

Greg

3cyltrbo · 02-08-2013, 12:36 PM

am I correct in guessing that all those are the natural finish (the standard finish?)

WC

jetblast · 02-08-2013, 12:39 PM

If the MI or Tooter manifolds would've been available back in the day, I would've gladly patronized them for my intake. :) Waiting on installing my turbo. Sorry for cell pic. Though it's in a box, still same engine.

cali yaris · 02-08-2013, 10:16 PM

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Could you post the run with the greatest power gains? Showing other runs wouldn't invalidate this one. They would only add additional useful information about your manifold's profile.

Nope. We printed our choice for one run only, the one we thought showed best overall performance.

Don't worry -- I suspect there will be more dynos available soon for you to review.

tooter · 02-09-2013, 01:23 AM

I just thought an actual graph would help to back up the claim. Less than 5hp to 7hp is significant (~40%). Does that have more to do with Golden Eagle as they manufacture the manifolds and are likely making those marketing decisions? Those great torque numbers alone are enough to already sell manifolds.

4/20 NEVER FORGET · 02-09-2013, 01:31 AM

AWWWWWWWW SHIT I have a tracking number in my email.

Manifold, thermal gasket and in-cab shifter on the way. Hopefully I can find some time to install it next week.

cali yaris · 02-09-2013, 06:21 PM

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I just thought an actual graph would help to back up the claim.

Does that mean you doubt the claim, tooter? I haven't heard that from anyone else. I would hope I have some credibility at this point.

Quote:

Does that have more to do with Golden Eagle as they manufacture the manifolds and are likely making those marketing decisions?

I have no idea what this means. Golden Eagle has nothing to do with any marketing decisions, nor did they have anything to do with the dyno sessions.

Captain Slow · 02-09-2013, 07:18 PM

I have no doubt that if Garm says it makes power it actually does...now just to save up for it, lol.

tooter · 02-10-2013, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

Does that mean you doubt the claim, tooter? I haven't heard that from anyone else. I would hope I have some credibility at this point.

I truly didn't mean to offend you, Garm.

There's absolutely no way I could have known that you didn't want to post another graph. Heck, if I made 7hp I'd plaster graphs all over the place because it's such a strong selling point.

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I have no idea what this means. Golden Eagle has nothing to do with any marketing decisions, nor did they have anything to do with the dyno sessions.

I apologize. I had mistakenly assumed that Golden Eagle manufactured the manifold and had a say in how their product was marketed.

cali yaris · 02-10-2013, 01:21 PM

^ I don't know if this is Bob or Jonathan that is posting (or someone else). Sorry, but there is a bit of misinformation there. We should clear it up right away. And welcome to the forums.

Here is just one main point.

The only manifold prototype you produced for TBR fit the xB and not the Yaris. I was the one to point that out to you in your shop, in person, and Jonathan was surprised when I pointed it out. That manifold would never have fit this car.

The only reason one exists for the Yaris is due to our knowledge of the car and our willingness to help get it right, which required four prototypes, multiple test fittings, meetings with you and a dyno session.

I don't see at all what TBR did to help with this product, since their idea was based on a Weapon R manifold which makes LESS power than stock and doesn't fit the car.

We also make the complete kit to install the product easily with no additional parts needed. I'm not going to post any more on here about it; I would have hoped you'd call us before posting on my thread, especially since you already have an email on this very subject.

cali yaris · 02-10-2013, 01:52 PM

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we manufacture the product and set the scale at which the product can be sold for

What is the "scale" or MAP pricing then, since this is the first I've heard about it?

cali yaris · 02-10-2013, 02:27 PM

Dealer cost is private; MAP pricing is public. It's the lowest advertised price the customer can expect to pay, so of course they know what it is.

Gotta say, it makes me wonder who is posting here.

jetblast · 02-10-2013, 02:53 PM

I do a yippy skippy heel click every time a new performance part surfaces for our engines. I thank those who spend tons of time developing, manufacturing, and marketing. I thank Micro Image for the awesome customer service I always can count on, and Golden Eagle for taking their risks. Tiz a weeee little engine, and you guys help us to have fun with it.

Thank you.
Ken

02-07-2013, 04:29 PM	#271
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02-07-2013, 06:58 PM	#273
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	We did several pulls, this one showed the best distribution of power gains, but not the greatest power gains. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

02-07-2013, 07:21 PM	#274
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02-09-2013, 07:18 PM	#283
Captain Slow My Face Is Ridiculous View User's Garage Drives: 2010 Toyota Yaris 3dr LB Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 456	I have no doubt that if Garm says it makes power it actually does...now just to save up for it, lol. __________________ {Buy my book - It Came From Tomorrow}

02-10-2013, 01:21 PM	#285
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	^ I don't know if this is Bob or Jonathan that is posting (or someone else). Sorry, but there is a bit of misinformation there. We should clear it up right away. And welcome to the forums. Here is just one main point. The only manifold prototype you produced for TBR fit the xB and not the Yaris. I was the one to point that out to you in your shop, in person, and Jonathan was surprised when I pointed it out. That manifold would never have fit this car. The only reason one exists for the Yaris is due to our knowledge of the car and our willingness to help get it right, which required four prototypes, multiple test fittings, meetings with you and a dyno session. I don't see at all what TBR did to help with this product, since their idea was based on a Weapon R manifold which makes LESS power than stock and doesn't fit the car. We also make the complete kit to install the product easily with no additional parts needed. I'm not going to post any more on here about it; I would have hoped you'd call us before posting on my thread, especially since you already have an email on this very subject. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

02-08-2013, 12:36 PM	#277
3cyltrbo Drives: MR2 Spyd/Type R/Yaris/Civic Si Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 479	am I correct in guessing that all those are the natural finish (the standard finish?) WC

02-09-2013, 01:23 AM	#280
tooter play every day Drives: 2012 Yaris L 2dr 5sp Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,961	I just thought an actual graph would help to back up the claim. Less than 5hp to 7hp is significant (~40%). Does that have more to do with Golden Eagle as they manufacture the manifolds and are likely making those marketing decisions? Those great torque numbers alone are enough to already sell manifolds.

02-09-2013, 01:31 AM	#281
4/20 NEVER FORGET Drives: 2008 Yaris HB MT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 100	AWWWWWWWW SHIT I have a tracking number in my email. Manifold, thermal gasket and in-cab shifter on the way. Hopefully I can find some time to install it next week.

02-10-2013, 02:27 PM	#287
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	Dealer cost is private; MAP pricing is public. It's the lowest advertised price the customer can expect to pay, so of course they know what it is. Gotta say, it makes me wonder who is posting here. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

02-10-2013, 02:53 PM	#288
jetblast Drives: Gen 1 XB Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 72	I do a yippy skippy heel click every time a new performance part surfaces for our engines. I thank those who spend tons of time developing, manufacturing, and marketing. I thank Micro Image for the awesome customer service I always can count on, and Golden Eagle for taking their risks. Tiz a weeee little engine, and you guys help us to have fun with it. Thank you. Ken __________________ Why strive for a JDM BB, when you can promote the Scion badge?

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