ready for snow

[voodoo22]

Once again the Nokian rSI's continue to really impress me. I've had a few sets of winter tires, but these are a notch above all my previous tires.

Today, no one could get out of the underground parking in my apartment. A Jeep, a Honda Accord with their all seasons on and a Carolla with some sort of winters. After they finally moved out of the way, I drove out of the icy snowy ramp no problem, not even a slip.

When I got to work the parking lot was empty to I tried spinning the car pulling circles in the parking lot at 30 km/h and there was only a very little bit of hopping from corning too fast, but no sliding at on on a sheer, ice covered parking lot. After over 10,000 km, these tires continue to be a fantastic purchase which I recommend to everyone who drives on ice, in snow or temperatures below 7 celsius.

[mojoyaris]

There's been some talk about winter tires VS the all seasons and if there really is a difference. I tried this at an autocross once and it does make a difference when you are autocrossing in the snow with winter/snow tires. We had WRX's slipping and sliding on summer tires taking in lap times twice or three times what the cars on snow tires were doing.

[thebarber]

studded tires ftw!

[Black Yaris]

just had a light snow today here in the wonderful land of Ohio

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

just had a light snow today here in the wonderful land of Ohio

Did it kill the corn

Sorry, had to say it. Everytime I have driven through Ohio I have been amazed by all that corn.

[thebarber]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

Did it kill the corn

Sorry, had to say it. Everytime I have driven through Ohio I have been amazed by all that corn.

ever drive between k-w and st ratford in the summer/fall?

[IllusionX]

Originally Posted by mojoyaris

oh Yeah... the pulsar is a great little car for winter

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by thebarber

ever drive between k-w and st ratford in the summer/fall?

Yeah there's a lot there, but it can't touch Ohio. Seems like over half the state is corn.

[Pars]

Did a round trip to Strathroy and was following the snow plows on the 401 until london. After 500km of constant driving, (a goodly portion while behind the snow plows) i'm pining for the Yaris's fuel consumption. The Yaris would have done the round trip and gotten 6.8L/100km, while my RAV4 only got 9.5L/100km.

But wow, what a difference in ability when handling the snow. Granted, the snow tires on my Yaris wasn't the vaunted Nokian, but the difference when compared to the RAV4 was night and day. The traction control system on that RAV4 really shines when equipped with some good snow tires (Yokohama). Toyota knows how to make a good traction control system on an awd car...

Now the question is, when are they going to give us a awd Yaris!

[WeeYari]

^^ I was stuck behind the same plows on my way to Petrolia. Right around 10:30/11 am Saturday right?

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by PK198105

you guys realise it's a government scam the new law for winter tires. it has nothing to do with safety but everything to do with the economy. and i find it very selfish of the government to force us to have winters yet none of the transport companies, ambulances, cops , taxis and other non-private are obliged to change to winters. i drove all my past vehicles without winter tires, never had problems in winter driving. although i agree that winter tires perform better in these conditions they wont reduce the risk of accidents, in my opinion they will increase it. since all the morons on the road will be under the impression that once they have winter tires on they are invincible and the laws of physics don't apply to them, they will increase their speed (since they will feel more in control), they will reduce their following distance (since winters will save them in case of an emergency situation and because the commercial said the stopping distance is reduced by 60%) and they will weave in and out of traffic more often (because winter tires are safer). I sincerely hope this law blows up in the face of the government , so i can sue them for my wasted time/money/and nerves.

what is the new law? is it a requirement that everyone has to be on "winter/snow tires?"

[voodoo22]

That doesn't make any sense that those other vehicles are exempt. I believe in winter tires, but exempting certain vehicles removes all validity from the law.

[onizuka]

a very clear example of socialism. A set of new snow tires ain't cheap neither. What if I'm so poor, just recently got laid off due to economy crisis of today, and cannot afford to put $600 for a set of snow tires and wheelies. why is the government punishing and ticketing me for not capable putting down $600 for tires instead of putting food on my table with the same money. Doesn't make sense. The only one that should be ticketed is the one with improper tires. Seeing the tread of some tires on some ppl cars make you worry.

[voodoo22]

Communism and Socialism are great ideas if they were practiced in a utopia where people didn't get greedy and turn every model of government into a monopolistic dictatorship hell bent on only benefiting the rich.

[thebarber]

imo, snow tires are a good idea...

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by PK198105

yes they are, but also driving mentality has to be addressed. just because you have snow tires doesn't mean you can go back to driving like in the summer

Even though snow tires are proven to be much better in the colder temperatures, I bet that you're right and more lives would be saved if the Quebec government focused on enforcement of other laws already in place to get people to drive within the posted limits, signal lane changes, not tailgate etc.

I personally would never go without snow tires, they saved my but again today in all that ice and slush.

[Pars]

It just occured to me that I have 8 nokian hakka 1 tires that are 8 years old wasting away in my in-laws garage (I used to have two Civics and sold both of them). I probably could get money for them...they still got a good amount of thread on them, but it probably harden so that it isn't much good in the snow...but, it would keep the law off your back in Quebec.

What's next? I'm sure Quebec isn't going to stop at the snow tire mandate. Next thing, they'll probably mandate dedicated summer tires for summer

Personaly, given the overhead invovled in driving, (minum of $2000/year for insurance), spending $600 every 4 years (or probably a one time investment for those who don't drive alot) shouldn't be an issue. Factoring in that the snows will give summer tires a break and thus make them last longer. The snow tire will out perform a similiar car that has 4 wheel drive and traction control (assuming snow condition and 4-wheel is running on regular tire). Piece of mind and less stress while driving knowing that you've got some traction vs none. It's an incredable smart move, especially in Quebec where the winters are much worst compared to Toronto and area.

In these tough times, what u need is a government that will think outside the box and have the guts to do whats needed. Cause with the world economy going down the shithold, it's the government that's going to save those contry that are sinking.

[thebarber]

same as ppl w/ 4wd...they drive like asswipes.....but if NONE of your tires have traction, youll still end up in the ditch

imho, drivers licenses should have to be renewed every couple of years w/ a road test....