2008 Ford Focus: Ugly is as Ugly does - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

ChinoCharles · 01-11-2007, 10:02 PM

My God... I haven't seen two cars this ugly since I saw the Fit and Versa parked next to eachother on campus.

New 500 =

5 out of 5 barfs
New Focus =

4 out of 5 barfs

They look so generic, like Ford is afraid to make any statement right now because it may just be their last.

The day Ford gives up on cars and sticks to trucks (consumer and commercial) is a wonderful day for US auto manufacturing.

And dude, eTiMaGo... trust me, we don't get the cool cars. Europe does! We have the f'n Dodge Magnum and the Chevy SSR... these are our works of art. Heavy, archane, gaudy, pathetic attempts at trying to polish a turd from the 1940's and 50's.

Maybe that is why I like the Yaris so much... it resembles no other car I've ever seen. The big trend right now is taking classic designs and making the lines a little smoother to make them look modern. The Yaris is just modern... they saved the nostalgia for the idiots at GM and Ford.

EDIT: Forgive me for leaving out the one bright spot we have left... the Chevrolet Corvette.

ECHOKnight2000 · 01-11-2007, 10:09 PM

The European Focus is nice as we all figured, the reason they won't bring it over here because then they would have to bump the price up and Americans (generally speaking) won't buy it...they figure they can get a bigger car with a similar price if that makes sense. The USDM Focus is suppose to be an "entry" car not bare bones but you know Corolla territory although I guess it competes with the Corolla (now Auris hatch) in Europe but this Focus is like a "premium" compact. I think its the same reason that Toyota and other car makers don't bring the European versions over as they are positioned differently than they are in the U.S. it would be too costly. They should at least bring a credible performance Focus to the U.S., maybe later. Regardless if we think its ugly I know it will sell, I see Focus's everywhere!!!!

foxtrot685 · 01-11-2007, 10:18 PM

ford would face alot of problems if they bought teh euro focus to america.
1. the base price of a new focus is about $14,500-$16,000; if they brought the euro focus to america the base price would be around $17,000. no one is going to pay that much to start for a compact. in mazdas case (the mazda3's platform is shared with the euro focus) it is a good enough car that people dont mind shelling out the $15,000 base price which by the way does not have a/c, power anything except steering, or cruise. if u want those features its an additional $1100.
2. their crash regs are, as we all know, different and the design of teh euro focus is based upon those regs, which means that everything from the a pillar up would have to be redesigned to incorporate our crash regs.
theres way more probs than these but the bottom line is ford screwed up again! lol

the closest u can get to a euro focus is teh mazda 3 or volvo s40

Blenjar · 01-11-2007, 10:50 PM

Indeed, the Mazda 3 was my second choice...

-- Blen

johnnyfive · 01-12-2007, 12:27 AM

saw the pic, a nd thought it was an aveo?

paultyler_82 · 01-12-2007, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blenjar

Ever notice that ford makes the ugliest rims?

-- Blen

Forget the rims... ever notice that Ford makes the ugliest CARS? About the only one that's not absolutely vomit inducing is the Mustang, and even then, I don't really care for it's looks, I understand it's a throwback to yesteryear, but it really sort of misses the mark, it just looks bloated. Ford is seriously neglecting it's US market, the Focus has gotten at least 3 or 4 new versions since the original in Europe, meanwhile the US is stuck with a facelifted version of the same prehistoric 1st gen Focus... we never get Ford's neat smaller cars, not even so much as a Ford Ka/SportKa. I hate to see an American icon get bought out by an overseas car company, but I see it coming, especially if they don't clean up thier lineup and quit trying to pass these ugly, uninspiring designs on us. The positive side to a buyout is that maybe a Japanese or European maker will buy them, and the products will finally improve, in both looks AND reliability (something for which US Fords are not very well known...) it did work for Dodge, after all. Problem is, it could go the other way and they could be purchased by a Chinese auto group, like what happened to the poor MG/Rover Group.

eTiMaGo · 01-12-2007, 03:11 AM

isn't ford owned by mazda now? or is it the other way around?

TrancosRt · 01-12-2007, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

isn't ford owned by mazda now? or is it the other way around?

The other way around actually.

Most american automakers have been missing the target lousily because they are stuck in the "bigger is better" mentality. Buyers buy big cars because they don't have a small choice :S. Toyota, Hond, and Nissan are showing the big comanies otherwise with the huge success of the Yaris, Fit, and the (sig) Versa. Toyota managed to move the Yaris price down from the international arena, couldn't Ford do the same thing? The Euro Focus is really neat, and their moneymaker, the big trucks, is being eroded by the foreign companies (Nissan, Toyota, Honda are slowly gaining sales, stealing the big 3 domain!), so they sometime will realize theat they have to rtart to come up with decent cars instead of the big (and ugly) 500 and whatnot...

07WYarisRS · 01-12-2007, 12:30 PM

I'm still waiting for Toyota to bring back the Supra

until then I'll stick with my egg or some other little Yota

ECHOKnight2000 · 01-12-2007, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eTiMaGo

isn't ford owned by mazda now? or is it the other way around?

To my knowlege Ford only owns or has shares, I want to say 70% of Mazda, not all of it, so they just have a stake in Mazda but they don't entirely own it. Even the Fusion and its cusion Mercury Milan is based off a modified Mazda6 platform. But like others said I guess the Mazda3 is pretty much the European Focus, or close to it.

Kaotic Lazagna · 01-12-2007, 05:06 PM

i dunno, i was never really into the Focus. that Euro version looks okay though.

Jem_hadar · 01-13-2007, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by echo_hrs

It's a complete joke when compared to the next generation Mazda3 based european version that's been out for years while North America keeps getting the facelifted fossil...

Cheers

I thought I heard that the euro Ford Focus may be coming to North America soon?

spkrman · 01-13-2007, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaris Revenge

Y'know, the Focus was pretty sweet when the VW designers handed it to Ford. But every change Ford has wrought since then has made this car uglier and uglier. Take a look at this new pic of the 2008 model. Is that not one ugly, misguided, confused front end? What in the world do they think they're doing???

~YR

why.... just why....

spkrman · 01-13-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by echo_hrs

It's a complete joke when compared to the next generation Mazda3 based european version that's been out for years while North America keeps getting the facelifted fossil...

Cheers

Now thats a car I would drive!!!

as400g33k · 01-15-2007, 01:01 AM

That yellow Focus is released here in Australia as the Focus XR5. Its got a turbo 5-cylinder from Volvo, 6 speed automatic, Recaros seats, and 18" alloys. Very nice car...

01-11-2007, 10:09 PM	#20
ECHOKnight2000 Small Car Lover View User's Garage Drives: A Super Car Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Minnesota, US of A! Posts: 830	The European Focus is nice as we all figured, the reason they won't bring it over here because then they would have to bump the price up and Americans (generally speaking) won't buy it...they figure they can get a bigger car with a similar price if that makes sense. The USDM Focus is suppose to be an "entry" car not bare bones but you know Corolla territory although I guess it competes with the Corolla (now Auris hatch) in Europe but this Focus is like a "premium" compact. I think its the same reason that Toyota and other car makers don't bring the European versions over as they are positioned differently than they are in the U.S. it would be too costly. They should at least bring a credible performance Focus to the U.S., maybe later. Regardless if we think its ugly I know it will sell, I see Focus's everywhere!!!! __________________ You may look good on the beach but in reality you're a pompus, egotistical jerk. "I was never on the beach with you..."and you never will.

01-12-2007, 03:11 AM	#25
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	isn't ford owned by mazda now? or is it the other way around? __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

01-12-2007, 12:30 PM	#27
07WYarisRS HardlyDangerous Drives: 09 Yaris LE, H/B, auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ridgeway Ontario Posts: 573	I'm still waiting for Toyota to bring back the Supra until then I'll stick with my egg or some other little Yota __________________ The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

01-11-2007, 10:02 PM	#19
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	My God... I haven't seen two cars this ugly since I saw the Fit and Versa parked next to eachother on campus. New 500 = 5 out of 5 barfs New Focus = 4 out of 5 barfs They look so generic, like Ford is afraid to make any statement right now because it may just be their last. The day Ford gives up on cars and sticks to trucks (consumer and commercial) is a wonderful day for US auto manufacturing. And dude, eTiMaGo... trust me, we don't get the cool cars. Europe does! We have the f'n Dodge Magnum and the Chevy SSR... these are our works of art. Heavy, archane, gaudy, pathetic attempts at trying to polish a turd from the 1940's and 50's. Maybe that is why I like the Yaris so much... it resembles no other car I've ever seen. The big trend right now is taking classic designs and making the lines a little smoother to make them look modern. The Yaris is just modern... they saved the nostalgia for the idiots at GM and Ford. EDIT: Forgive me for leaving out the one bright spot we have left... the Chevrolet Corvette.

01-11-2007, 10:18 PM	#21
foxtrot685 Drives: Scion xA Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Buckley AFB, CO Posts: 43	ford would face alot of problems if they bought teh euro focus to america. 1. the base price of a new focus is about $14,500-$16,000; if they brought the euro focus to america the base price would be around $17,000. no one is going to pay that much to start for a compact. in mazdas case (the mazda3's platform is shared with the euro focus) it is a good enough car that people dont mind shelling out the $15,000 base price which by the way does not have a/c, power anything except steering, or cruise. if u want those features its an additional $1100. 2. their crash regs are, as we all know, different and the design of teh euro focus is based upon those regs, which means that everything from the a pillar up would have to be redesigned to incorporate our crash regs. theres way more probs than these but the bottom line is ford screwed up again! lol the closest u can get to a euro focus is teh mazda 3 or volvo s40

01-11-2007, 10:50 PM	#22
Blenjar View User's Garage Drives: Black Yaris 07 HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CT Posts: 1,548	Indeed, the Mazda 3 was my second choice... -- Blen

01-12-2007, 12:27 AM	#23
johnnyfive Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: May 2006 Location: Milwaukee WI Posts: 582	saw the pic, a nd thought it was an aveo?

01-12-2007, 05:06 PM	#29
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	i dunno, i was never really into the Focus. that Euro version looks okay though.

01-15-2007, 01:01 AM	#33
as400g33k Drives: 05 YRS Silver Lining Metallic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 249	That yellow Focus is released here in Australia as the Focus XR5. Its got a turbo 5-cylinder from Volvo, 6 speed automatic, Recaros seats, and 18" alloys. Very nice car...