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02-18-2009, 06:16 PM | #55 |
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I put 4qt of Royal Purple 5w-30 all the time. I let it drain at least 5-10mins (sometimes i go for lunch and come back) before refilling, and i'm usually dead on the "high" mark.
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02-19-2009, 11:05 AM | #56 |
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4qt's will be too much. On a perfectly level surface, I got the oil nice and HOT, not warm and proceeded to let it drain for 2 hours. 4 quarts was way too much oil. I'd say that the re-fill should start at 3.3 qts and possibly end up at 3.7 at the most. I know that 4 quarts was way too much oil because the pan is equipped with a fujitomo drain valve and I was easily able to drain ~ .5 quarts from the pan to get the correct fill.
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02-22-2009, 01:23 AM | #57 |
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According to many Used Oil Analysis, Royol Purple is a very good oil, BUT not better then oils costing half as much. It is an internet myth that it is better then most. People get sold on it's color, as it is novel, and being more expensive then most oils, some people are fooled into thinking that it is better. It is not. Don't be suckered in!
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02-22-2009, 01:27 AM | #58 | |
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The TSB says that we can use 5w-20 in our Yaris. However I choose to use 0w-20 because I understand oil. At 212F, 0w-20 and 5w-20 provide the SAME protection, the same viscosity, so what is the big deal? I use 0w for the first start on cold mornings (40F or colder), as it will circulate faster, and better, and that translates into more protection during the first start of every cold morning, and it is at that instance when 90% of engine wear happens. |
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02-22-2009, 05:04 AM | #59 |
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02-23-2009, 08:39 AM | #60 | |
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Understand Toyota's TSB :)
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Rearrange the TSB to fit your needs all you want, and make all the excuses you want, but it's gonna be tuff convincing the Toyota service department how wrong they are if they ever question you for using a viscosity that is listed right on the TSB as a viscosity to not be used in the Yaris NZ 1.5 |
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02-23-2009, 10:25 AM | #61 | |
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You are an idiot! I never said the TSB says it is okay to use 0w-20. It says Yarii can use 5w-20. HOWEVER, I use 0w-20 and my UOA's prove it is not a problem. You really do need to take some vitamins! |
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02-23-2009, 10:34 AM | #62 |
did another change on sat. with 5w20 mobil1 and trd(rebadged k/n) filter.....
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02-23-2009, 10:54 AM | #63 | |
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Go back to posting #29
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But thanks for the backpedal, because on this very thread I asked if 0w-20 was okay according to Toyota's TSB and you jumped on the thread with your little TSB link pretending that it was some sort of proof that Toyota thinks 0W-20 is okay for the Yaris. Quote: "ALL the oil brands that sell 0w-20 make the claim that that their oil is a great match for ANY 5w-20 application. AMSoil, Mobil1 and others make this claim. And you are dead wrong about California and 0w weight oil. Anytime the ambient temperature is below 40F one will IN FACt benefit from 0w oil. You are also very foolish to think that it does not snow in California. It does in fact. Film strength and viscosity have NOTHING to do with each other. And in fact, there are some 20 weights that provide film longer then heavier oils. What you fail to understand is that 0w-20 and 5w-20 provide the SAME protection at full operational temperatures. The difference is during the first morning start of the cold day. And if a 5w is fine, then a 0w will be too. This is true according to AMSoil, and Mobil1 and ALL other makes that make 0W oils. According to Toyota, 5w-20 can be used safely in a Yaris 1.5L engine. Now, that being true, one can ALSO use 0w-20, 0w-30 too for our Yaris engines, and this according to ALL the makers of 0w oils. It is too bad you behave like you know more about oil then Toyota, AMSoil, and Mobil1." |
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02-23-2009, 11:06 AM | #64 |
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hey 1sttoyota...let him blow his engine up...its ok :)
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02-23-2009, 11:23 AM | #65 | |
Start another Oil Thread!
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But the next thing you'll know is that he'll pretend that he hasn't been going around for months telling others to use 0W-20 because he's **used it for 50+K miles with no problems**, but I guess he's got the UOA's to prove it, but I've never seen him post those UOA results yet.
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02-23-2009, 12:06 PM | #67 |
What Silverglow doesn't know (because he dosen't have an oil temp gauge), is that under normal driving (city, and 75mph highway cruise), the oil temp does not go above 85 degrees C.
At the track, I've seen 109 degrees C at the end of a 25 min. session, but that was 25 min. playing above 5000 rpm. I don't know what the curve looks like as far as temp. vs. viscosity, but I'd be willing to guess that he's not seeing the full 20w most, if not all, of the time. That would be my guess as to why the TSB specifically does not list 0W-20 as a sub for the 1NZ. |
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Toyota's 800 customer service line says you CAN run M1 or AMSoil 0W-20 as these do meet all their criteria for Yarii engines. The TSB published came out AFTER they drew this conclusion. Call Mobil1 and AMSoil and see if you know more about oil then they. You don't. And I certainly would never run an oil that would damage my engine for grins or giggles. |
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02-25-2009, 12:57 AM | #69 |
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So.. I'm getting quite lost in this thread..
Which is a thinner oil? 5w20 or 5w30? and also is thinner better? What do you guys think about the Motul 300V line of oils.. =P compared with the RP motor oils? (mainly the 300V Power Racing) Last thing.. are some of you saying the RP motor oils are semi synthetic? Thanks in advance =)
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I never said the TSB says it is okay to use 0w-20. It says Yarii can use 5w-20.
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02-25-2009, 10:10 AM | #72 |
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Jesus Christ folks the world ain't goin end because you guys have different opinions on oil.
i use pennzoil platinum 05/30 but frankly i think our cars engine would run just fine on ANY 5/30 syn or dino hell if you want to run something other that what Toyota says go for it just don't cry when you break it ! |
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