E brake re adjustment ...again....???

[Pinchlite]

Second time doing this.I tale off drum and adjust screw so the ebrake is 2,maybe 3 clicks.

I use brake for a week or 2 and its way loose again and doesnt really even hold car unless i pull way,way up many clicks.

Going to adjust again today.

Brake drums are brand new and shoes were replaced last month.

[THEWISEONE]

I don't use the access hole on the back of the backing plate to adjust the drum to shoe clearance. I use a trial and error method by installing and removing the drum many times and adusting the star wheel until the drum to shoe clearance feels tight enough. What you need is a little drag when turning the drum.If done correctly, the handbrake will start to hold the car at the 4th or 5th click.

[tmontague]

Did you replace the auto adusyer hardware when you replaced the shoes? It could be a worn adjuster or the adjuster could be installed incorrectly so it's not holding its adjustment.

This happened on my old Echo but it didn't use a star wheel adjuster, it had some other archaic adjuster that never held its setting.

[SirDigby]

i don't remember exactly what it looks like, but sometimes in can be installed backwards. again, i don't remember exactly what it looks like...

[dogsridewith]

A cable housing end, end ferrule, or receiving socket that is progressively collapsing would also show this symptom?

[zoidberg444]

My handbrake has always been a bit like that. I would get it adjusted at service and a few months later it went from needing 3 clicks to 6 clicks. I always assumed that it was an issue with the design of the drum brakes. Even when the adjustment is a bit out its still better than the handbrakes on some other cars I've driven.

[Pinchlite]

Originally Posted by THEWISEONE

I don't use the access hole on the back of the backing plate to adjust the drum to shoe clearance. I use a trial and error method by installing and removing the drum many times and adusting the star wheel until the drum to shoe clearance feels tight enough. What you need is a little drag when turning the drum.If done correctly, the handbrake will start to hold the car at the 4th or 5th click.

Thats what I did and it came loose again.It was 3 clicks max aftter doing.(Removed drum and turned star untill drum dragged slightly.)

[Pinchlite]

Originally Posted by tmontague

Did you replace the auto adusyer hardware when you replaced the shoes? It could be a worn adjuster or the adjuster could be installed incorrectly so it's not holding its adjustment.

This happened on my old Echo but it didn't use a star wheel adjuster, it had some other archaic adjuster that never held its setting.

I got the "kit" that came with shoes,I think the kit was optional?

[FunctionSpec]

Originally Posted by Pinchlite

Second time doing this.I tale off drum and adjust screw so the ebrake is 2,maybe 3 clicks.

I use brake for a week or 2 and its way loose again and doesnt really even hold car unless i pull way,way up many clicks.

What do you consider "loose" and how many clicks are "way, way up many clicks"? 2-3 clicks with a moderate pull on the e-brake sounds a bit too tight. 6-9 clicks using a moderate pull should be within the recommended range.

If the shoes are adjusted too tight, the brake shoes will drag inside the drum and cause overheating and premature wear. Brake shoes work to stop a car by "wedging" itself into the drum when it rotates (this is why one edge of the brake shoe is more worn than the other and also why drum brakes are more prone to locking up). If the brake shoes are dragging on the drum, it will constantly want to wedge itself into the drum and cause it to wear out faster.

[ex-x-fire]

Adjusters crossed?

[ABSPLASTIC]

Step 1: Find an empty parking lot
Step 2: Drive in reverse
Step 3: Pull the parking brake
Step 4: Repeat as needed

You're welcome

[Exiwolfman]

Originally Posted by ABSPLASTIC

Step 1: Find an empty parking lot
Step 2: Drive in reverse
Step 3: Pull the parking brake
Step 4: Repeat as needed

You're welcome

that works on Fords , Yaris is manually adjustable drum brake

[KimmoKekki]

Always remember to loose in cabin handbrake cable adjuster before adjusting from drums !!!


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[Pinchlite]

Originally Posted by FunctionSpec

What do you consider "loose" and how many clicks are "way, way up many clicks"? 2-3 clicks with a moderate pull on the e-brake sounds a bit too tight. 6-9 clicks using a moderate pull should be within the recommended range.

If the shoes are adjusted too tight, the brake shoes will drag inside the drum and cause overheating and premature wear. Brake shoes work to stop a car by "wedging" itself into the drum when it rotates (this is why one edge of the brake shoe is more worn than the other and also why drum brakes are more prone to locking up). If the brake shoes are dragging on the drum, it will constantly want to wedge itself into the drum and cause it to wear out faster.

6 clicks to hold it on a hill.Firm pull but nothing that seems abnormally forcive.

I guess its fine then.I read others having 3 clicks is better?

[Pinchlite]

Originally Posted by KimmoKekki

Always remember to loose in cabin handbrake cable adjuster before adjusting from drums !!!


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This is the first time hearing this.

I have never adjusted the inside cable.

From what others have mentioned 6-7 clicks is fine?

[dogsridewith]

3 clicks is too tight...not sure which Toyota manual or exact #, but 7 clicks to a firm set seems about right. I think the brakes are supposed to self-set on backing up, but not sure they do it well, or need high braking, and/or some of us just never need to back up and brake w/ any authority. My new condition 135k mile 2007 did not have new pads, and had the most clicks I've ever seen on a car. Mechanic took in one side at inspection wheel pull, and handle was still too high until I really rolled that star wheel on the other side.