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Old 06-09-2009, 04:07 PM   #19
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Old 06-09-2009, 06:57 PM   #20
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You will need more than the useless rear shock bushing brace if you go with a coilover setup on the rear shocks.

you could groove the rear shocks and run compression rings for coilover sleeves. That is what I run on my Cobra in the rear.

With a stiff rear sway bar and coilovers you could punch right through the upper shockmount. You would at least need delrin upper bushings and possibly weld or bolt on a steel plate for reinforcement.
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You will need more than the useless rear shock bushing brace if you go with a coilover setup on the rear shocks.

you could groove the rear shocks and run compression rings for coilover sleeves. That is what I run on my Cobra in the rear.

eye-to-eye shocks can be modified to accept spring perches :) if my Ksport perches don't work out that'll be my next step.
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eye-to-eye shocks can be modified to accept spring perches :) if my Ksport perches don't work out that'll be my next step.
Yea that would make things significantly easier, you would probably have to get them revalved for this application, but that is not horrible.
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You will need more than the useless rear shock bushing brace if you go with a coilover setup on the rear shocks.

you could groove the rear shocks and run compression rings for coilover sleeves. That is what I run on my Cobra in the rear.

With a stiff rear sway bar and coilovers you could punch right through the upper shockmount. You would at least need delrin upper bushings and possibly weld or bolt on a steel plate for reinforcement.
Yeah, I was thinking the same sort of thing. That upper mount wasn't made to carry any weight. Even putting in a reinforcement at the top could just be moving the weak point to lower on the tower where something else will bend or break under fatigue. Now, if the car had a full rollcage and you could tie into that... that could work.
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You will need more than the useless rear shock bushing brace if you go with a coilover setup on the rear shocks.

you could groove the rear shocks and run compression rings for coilover sleeves. That is what I run on my Cobra in the rear.

With a stiff rear sway bar and coilovers you could punch right through the upper shockmount. You would at least need delrin upper bushings and possibly weld or bolt on a steel plate for reinforcement.
do you have a link for this process? If not, could you explain more about grooving the shocks?

My idea is similar i think, i thought about simply welding on a collar to set the spring perch on.
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Yeah, I was thinking the same sort of thing. That upper mount wasn't made to carry any weight. Even putting in a reinforcement at the top could just be moving the weak point to lower on the tower where something else will bend or break under fatigue. Now, if the car had a full rollcage and you could tie into that... that could work.
sounds like a great excuse to me :rofl:
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Yea that would make things significantly easier, you would probably have to get them revalved for this application, but that is not horrible.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Koni/610/8216-2027/10002/-1
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do you have a link for this process? If not, could you explain more about grooving the shocks?

My idea is similar i think, i thought about simply welding on a collar to set the spring perch on.
i can groove them at my shop :)

however, Gordon at koni does not recommend doing this, as the outer shell of most shocks is not thick enough to withstand grooving/welding unless already equipped in such a way.
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do you have a link for this process? If not, could you explain more about grooving the shocks?

My idea is similar i think, i thought about simply welding on a collar to set the spring perch on.
You dont want to be welding to shock bodies.

Pages 4-7 deal with the grooved shock body and the spirolock ring that hold on the coilover sleeve.

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/co...p/MMCO-4r6.pdf
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i can groove them at my shop :)

however, Gordon at koni does not recommend doing this, as the outer shell of most shocks is not thick enough to withstand grooving/welding unless already equipped in such a way.
really? shit... what about a sleeve with the top filled in and a hole drilled into the top for the shaft. So the sleeve fits down over the shock, and the top (rim?) of the collar goes over the top of the shock where the shaft passes through the hole. Then, you can have another collar on the bottom of it where you can slide a perch onto it.

Does that make sense at all?
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i can groove them at my shop :)

however, Gordon at koni does not recommend doing this, as the outer shell of most shocks is not thick enough to withstand grooving/welding unless already equipped in such a way.
Agreed. You woudl need to check with the shock manufacturer to see if this is even viable.

It is an easy process to groove the shock bodies though.
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You dont want to be welding to shock bodies.

Pages 4-7 deal with the grooved shock body and the spirolock ring that hold on the coilover sleeve.

http://www.maximummotorsports.com/co...p/MMCO-4r6.pdf
thanks!

i like that idea alot...
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really? shit... what about a sleeve with the top filled in and a hole drilled into the top for the shaft. So the sleeve fits down over the shock, and the top (rim?) of the collar goes over the top of the shock where the shaft passes through the hole. Then, you can have another collar on the bottom of it where you can slide a perch onto it.

Does that make sense at all?
Shocks are not designed to be load bearing suspension components usually, so that probably would not really work either. If the shock was beefy enough to do that, you could groove it anyway.
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Yeah, I was thinking the same sort of thing. That upper mount wasn't made to carry any weight. Even putting in a reinforcement at the top could just be moving the weak point to lower on the tower where something else will bend or break under fatigue. Now, if the car had a full rollcage and you could tie into that... that could work.

Yea.. the shock mount might need to be boxed in completely. If I was going this route, that is what I would do.
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what do you guys think of using these? you can select rate, but probably cant adjust height though. I think i measured the rear spring to be 5 1/2" in diameter.

http://www.dansracingsupply.com/AFCO.htm

http://www.afabcorp.com/AFCO_Dynatec...t_Conventional

So if you can figure out what spring will allow you to have a decent height, and then you can get collars for the front, you are good to go. you wont have rear height adjustability, but you could use a good strong rate.
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Gordon at koni said 9" would be good for my setup, and i'd imagine that a 9" travel shock would work for y'all in the back as well
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Gordon at koni said 9" would be good for my setup, and i'd imagine that a 9" travel shock would work for y'all in the back as well
got any aftermarket springs around you can measure?
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