Talk me out of trading her in - Toyota Yaris Forums

regal · 05-22-2009, 04:16 PM

I have a 2 month old 2009 3 door LB with 1500 miles. I put the TRD suspension and rear sway bar on it. Great improvement but it still doen't do it for me, there is stilll the understeer and too much of it. I paid $12k for the car. I am seriously thinking about trading it for a 2003-2004 MR2 Spyder to get the handling I used too. Do you think I would take a terrible loss? Is there any chance that better after market suspension components will come ovailable for the Yaris in the next few years? I understand the reliability of the spyder is not quite Toyota like which is important to me. Any thoughts on this ?

33OH · 05-22-2009, 04:23 PM

Do you think I would take a terrible loss?
of course you would

Is there any chance that better after market suspension components will come ovailable for the Yaris in the next few years?
I'm sure a few things will come out, yeah. The car itself has only been out for 2 years (3 in Canada), and look at all we have now.

I understand the reliability of the spyder is not quite Toyota like which is important to me. Any thoughts on this ?
That would be your call. Do you want a faster, racier, better-handling car? Or a reliable daily driver?

mrbond · 05-22-2009, 04:23 PM

^ There are already a lot of better aftermarket suspension set ups. For example: a good-sized coilover market, then there's the Tokico blues, Tokico HTS just came out, and C-One makes an adjustable damper + spring set. I personally would stick with the Yaris for its dependability, good cargo capacity (especially in comparison to the spyder), and better fuel economy.

regal · 05-22-2009, 04:31 PM

Do you thinkin a few years it will be possible to eliminate the understeer the Yaris seems plagued with?

regal · 05-22-2009, 04:33 PM

Also for the loss I would take I could probably buy a nice old miata toy caar.

Altitude · 05-22-2009, 04:34 PM

Where are you driving that the understeer is such a problem? Do you autocross?

Tamago · 05-22-2009, 04:41 PM

get an alignment

get some GOOD tires

regal · 05-22-2009, 04:45 PM

The car understeers that is a fact, I drive windy hilly rural PA roads. I kmow what I am am talking about, a persnal slamder is no place here this is a good forum lets keep it that way.

regal · 05-22-2009, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

get an alignment

get some GOOD tires

Posted my alignment specs in another thread, the tires aren't even the limiting factor withthe understeer.

Deltasix · 05-22-2009, 04:50 PM

Just trade it in if you're set on doing that. Make sure you test drive the next car you're looking to get, and do some research on it before purchasing it.

regal · 05-22-2009, 04:56 PM

I might want to keep it for the loss I would take in the trade in I could buy a decent miata, and in a few years they will have heavy springs and adjusteable shocks for the Yaris. I stilll think the Yaris has potental if it weren't for thr understeer.

Altitude · 05-22-2009, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal

The car understeers that is a fact, I drive windy hilly rural PA roads. I kmow what I am am talking about, a persnal slamder is no place here this is a good forum lets keep it that way.

I've driven mine on some very curvy roads in the mountains and I don't find the understeer all that bad. In fact I'd call it almost undetectable and I've never lost grip. I've got a set of Falken FK452's on there that stick like glue so don't underestimate the benefits of good tires.

Just give it some more time. You'll adjust.

blacksandiegovitz · 05-22-2009, 05:04 PM

You should trade it UP for a s2k Imo

Tamago · 05-22-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal

Posted my alignment specs in another thread, the tires aren't even the limiting factor withthe understeer.

i read the alignment specs and that's why i am saying, get a real alignment.

when i bought my xA it understeered like a pig.

now i can off-throttle oversteer any time i choose.

find another FWD car that will handle like that FROM THE FACTORY and i'll be surprised

regal · 05-22-2009, 05:09 PM

I've never had the rear break free turning, I think i will get used to it a new car aleays has a learning curve, I'm mot bitching overall I like the gocart feel there is just something odd about sharp low speed turns that I can't get used too. The car is 100% better than before the TRD suspension, may need some breakin,

regal · 05-22-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

i read the alignment specs and that's why i am saying, get a real alignment.

Help me out here the toyota dealer doesn't know how to align a trd lowered car? Should I experiement with camber bolts?

regal · 05-22-2009, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

i

when i bought my xA it understeered like a pig.
now i can off-throttle oversteer any time i choose.

See I know there is hope.

Tamago · 05-22-2009, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by regal

Help me out here the toyota dealer doesn't know how to align a trd lowered car? Should I experiement with camber bolts?

the alignment tech gets the car in the 'green zone' and walks away. it's not his job to get the car perfect, he's only getting paid $13-20 to align your car.

you want to walk around back, talk to the tech himself, find out what he charges to do alignments after hours (and they all do, i do) and get to know him. chances are he'll WANT to get the car the way you like it because you're paying him cash.

and yes, absolutely, camber bolts, hub spacers *cough cough* and a couple washers under those lower front hub bolts will make all the difference.

05-22-2009, 04:16 PM	#1
regal Drives: 09 Yaris 3 Dr White LB Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 432	Talk me out of trading her in I have a 2 month old 2009 3 door LB with 1500 miles. I put the TRD suspension and rear sway bar on it. Great improvement but it still doen't do it for me, there is stilll the understeer and too much of it. I paid $12k for the car. I am seriously thinking about trading it for a 2003-2004 MR2 Spyder to get the handling I used too. Do you think I would take a terrible loss? Is there any chance that better after market suspension components will come ovailable for the Yaris in the next few years? I understand the reliability of the spyder is not quite Toyota like which is important to me. Any thoughts on this ?

05-22-2009, 04:23 PM	#3
mrbond View User's Garage Drives: 2008 meteorite hatchback Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 960	^ There are already a lot of better aftermarket suspension set ups. For example: a good-sized coilover market, then there's the Tokico blues, Tokico HTS just came out, and C-One makes an adjustable damper + spring set. I personally would stick with the Yaris for its dependability, good cargo capacity (especially in comparison to the spyder), and better fuel economy. __________________ - HOOOEY! That's one tahny little cawr! What the heck kinda toy is that? - A Toyota Yaris - A whut Yaris?

05-22-2009, 04:50 PM	#10
Deltasix Drives: '07 Liftback: Work in Progress Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: CT Posts: 187	Just trade it in if you're set on doing that. Make sure you test drive the next car you're looking to get, and do some research on it before purchasing it. __________________ "The basis of optimism is sheer terror."

05-22-2009, 05:04 PM	#13
blacksandiegovitz Your mom goes to college View User's Garage Drives: 08 Vitz Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Just chillin' out brah ! Posts: 1,434	You should trade it UP for a s2k Imo __________________ Garm is permanently high because he is the king of smokin' deals!

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05-22-2009, 04:23 PM	#2
33OH Drives: '08 Yaris Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Dover, Ohio Posts: 7,606	Do you think I would take a terrible loss? of course you would Is there any chance that better after market suspension components will come ovailable for the Yaris in the next few years? I'm sure a few things will come out, yeah. The car itself has only been out for 2 years (3 in Canada), and look at all we have now. I understand the reliability of the spyder is not quite Toyota like which is important to me. Any thoughts on this ? That would be your call. Do you want a faster, racier, better-handling car? Or a reliable daily driver?

05-22-2009, 04:31 PM	#4
regal Drives: 09 Yaris 3 Dr White LB Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 432	Do you thinkin a few years it will be possible to eliminate the understeer the Yaris seems plagued with?

05-22-2009, 04:33 PM	#5
regal Drives: 09 Yaris 3 Dr White LB Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 432	Also for the loss I would take I could probably buy a nice old miata toy caar.

05-22-2009, 04:34 PM	#6
Altitude Drives: '08 LB MT Bayou Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,671	Where are you driving that the understeer is such a problem? Do you autocross?

05-22-2009, 04:45 PM	#8
regal Drives: 09 Yaris 3 Dr White LB Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 432	The car understeers that is a fact, I drive windy hilly rural PA roads. I kmow what I am am talking about, a persnal slamder is no place here this is a good forum lets keep it that way.

05-22-2009, 04:56 PM	#11
regal Drives: 09 Yaris 3 Dr White LB Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 432	I might want to keep it for the loss I would take in the trade in I could buy a decent miata, and in a few years they will have heavy springs and adjusteable shocks for the Yaris. I stilll think the Yaris has potental if it weren't for thr understeer.

05-22-2009, 05:09 PM	#15
regal Drives: 09 Yaris 3 Dr White LB Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 432	I've never had the rear break free turning, I think i will get used to it a new car aleays has a learning curve, I'm mot bitching overall I like the gocart feel there is just something odd about sharp low speed turns that I can't get used too. The car is 100% better than before the TRD suspension, may need some breakin,